Ole Amundsen emigrerte til Amerka

[Trond Geir Strandhaug]

Ole Amundsen Utgarden, født 23/3 1839, fra Utgarden, Austvatn, Nord Odal, Hedmark Norge, emigrerte til Amerika den 24/5 1869. Lurer på hva som skjedde med han ? Hvor tok han veien ? Ble han gift der borte ? Er det etterkommere etter han ? Når og hvor døde han ? Er det noen som har "vært borti han" ? Hadde vært fint om noen kunne hjelpe, på forhånd takk.

[Astrid Mollan]

Har du lenke til utreisen? Hva var morens fødenavn. På dødsattestene ble ofte morens fødenavn oppgitt.

[Astrid Mollan]

Er dette dåpen nr 14
SAH, Nord-Odal prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 2, 1839-1850, s. 3
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603200509

Amund Arnesen og Kari Olsdatter Udgaard?

[Astrid Mollan]

To barn før han reiste?
Nr 76 Hans Albert SAH, Nord-Odal prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 4, 1866-1873, s. 8
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124370139

Caroline nr 64

SAH, Nord-Odal prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 4, 1866-1873, s. 44
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124370175

[gj25675]

Har du lenke til utreisen?

Det er vel denne

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000399637

[Trond Geir Strandhaug]

Det er riktig Ole nr. 14

[gj25675]

Kan det være han som gifter seg i New York 20.10.1870?

Name: Ole Amundsen
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Oct 1870
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1840
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Name: Amund Amundsen
Mother's Name: Kari Oledatter
Spouse's Name: Emma Klamm Schultz
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Spouse's Birthplace: Prussia
Spouse's Father's Name: August Klamm
Spouse's Mother's Name: Ernest Malchert

Reference ID: cn 6148
GS Film Number: 1544436

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1940," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24MN-N28 : 10 February 2018), Ernest Malchert in entry for Ole Amundsen and Emma Klamm Schultz, 20 Oct 1870; citing Marriage, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York City Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,544,436.


Emma gifter seg på nytt 21.9.1878. Kanskje Ole er død?
Name: Bernard Helmig
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Sep 1878
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1847
Birthplace: Germany
Father's Name: Christian Helmig
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Vokl
Spouse's Name: Emma Klemm Amundsen
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 30
Spouse's Marital Status: Unknown
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1848
Spouse's Birthplace: Germany
Spouse's Father's Name: August Klemm
Spouse's Mother's Name: Innesting Melchert

Reference ID: cn 5150
GS Film Number: 1562318

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1940," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249T-T1N : 10 February 2018), Innesting Melchert in entry for Bernard Helmig and Emma Klemm Amundsen, 21 Sep 1878; citing Marriage, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York City Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,562,318.

[Trond Geir Strandhaug]

Astrid Mollan og Matthias Kolberg, jeg tror det er riktig mann dere har funnet, men om det er riktig Ole som gifter seg er jo litt usikkert. Da han reiste over var han alene ? Før i det gamle Digitalarkivet var det enkelt å se det, men nå har jeg problemer med å finne ut det. Matthias Kolberg, det meste stemmer ved inngåelse av ekteskapet, men Oles far heter Arnesen, det kan jo skyldes en skrivefeil. Om det var han som ble gift med Emma Klamm Schultz, fikk de etterkommere ? Flere av Oles søsken var reist over til Amerika, kunne en av søsknende hans vært forlover ved inngåelse av ekteskapet ?

[gj25675]

Det kan være han som er død her. Alder stemmer ikke, men han var skomaker

Name: Ole Amundson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Jan 1878
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Occupation: shoemaker
Birth Year (Estimated): 1843
Birthplace: Norway
Burial Date: 18 Jan 1878
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Reference ID: cn 282539
GS Film Number: 1322562

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W39-PJ3 : 10 February 2018), Ole Amundson, 16 Jan 1878; citing Death, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,562.

[gj25675]

Det var nok enklest å oppgi faren med samme etternavn som seg selv, så slapp han diskusjoner om at han burde hett Arnesen selv også.

Det er i alle fall tre barn

Name: Ammensen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 02 Nov 1872
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Ole Ammensen
Mother's Name: Emma Klemm Ammensen

Reference ID: cn 98734
GS Film Number: 1322057

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27BF-JKW : 11 February 2018), Emma Klemm Ammensen in entry for Ammensen, 02 Nov 1872; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 98734 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,057.

Name: Selma Amundsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 15 Dec 1876
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father's Name: Ole Amundsen
Father's Birthplace: Norwegen
Father's Age: 38
Mother's Name: Emma Rlemm
Mother's Birthplace: Germania
Mother's Age: 28

Reference ID: cn 197777
GS Film Number: 1322109

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27B7-3TC : 11 February 2018), Emma Rlemm in entry for Selma Amundsen, 15 Dec 1876; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 197777 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,109.

Name: Selma Amundeen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 04 Jul 1877
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Residence Place: Manhattan, N.Y., N.Y., N.Y.
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birthplace: Manhattan, N.Y., N.Y., N.Y.
Burial Date: 06 Jul 1877
Burial Place: Lutheran Cemetery
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Reference ID: cn 267611
GS Film Number: 1322554

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WSB-FXM : 10 February 2018), Selma Amundeen, 04 Jul 1877; citing Death, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,554.

Name: Oscar Amundsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 09 Dec 1877
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Ole Amundsen
Mother's Name: Emma Klemm

Reference ID: cn 222101
GS Film Number: 1322122

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27YQ-G93 : 11 February 2018), Emma Klemm in entry for Oscar Amundsen, 09 Dec 1877; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 222101 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,122.

Også en Robert født 1873 som gifter seg i 1895, men dette kan også være den ubenevnte fra november 1872

Name: Robert Amundsen
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 02 Nov 1895
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1873
Birthplace: New York
Father's Name: Ole
Mother's Name: Emma Klem
Spouse's Name: Mary Mcilwaine
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1876
Spouse's Birthplace: New York
Spouse's Father's Name: Willis
Spouse's Mother's Name: Annie Mckee

Reference ID: cn 16902
GS Film Number: 1493450

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1940," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24CK-JMW : 10 February 2018), Annie Mckee in entry for Robert Amundsen and Mary Mcilwaine, 02 Nov 1895; citing Marriage, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York City Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,493,450.

[Astrid Mollan]

Her er vel en bror?
Township: Red Wing
County: Goodhue
Name: Martin T Amundson
Birth Date: 1845
Death Date: 1926
Cemetery: Oakwood
Comments: SP. SEVRENE
Section: P

[gj14114]

Det kan være han som er død her. Alder stemmer ikke, men han var skomaker

Name: Ole Amundson
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Jan 1878
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Occupation: shoemaker
Birth Year (Estimated): 1843
Birthplace: Norway
Burial Date: 18 Jan 1878
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Alder stemmer bedre ved innføringen i kirkeboka, 38 år gammel. Død 16. januar, gravlagt 18. januar 1878.

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ole Amundsen
Record Type: Death
Death Date: 18 Jan 1878
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York

[gj14114]

Kan det være han som gifter seg i New York 20.10.1870?

Name: Ole Amundsen
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Oct 1870
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1840
Birthplace: Norway
Father's Name: Amund Amundsen
Mother's Name: Kari Oledatter
Spouse's Name: Emma Klamm Schultz
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Spouse's Birthplace: Prussia
Spouse's Father's Name: August Klamm
Spouse's Mother's Name: Ernest Malchert

Viet i Metodist kirke.

The New York and Vicinity, United Methodist Church Records, 1775-1949
Name: Ole Aremdsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 30
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1840
Birth Place: Norway
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1870
Marriage Place: New York, New York, USA
Spouse: Emma Schultz

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Det er i alle fall tre barn

Name: Ammensen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 02 Nov 1872
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Ole Ammensen
Mother's Name: Emma Klemm Ammensen

Name: Selma Amundsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 15 Dec 1876
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father's Name: Ole Amundsen
Father's Birthplace: Norwegen
Father's Age: 38
Mother's Name: Emma Rlemm
Mother's Birthplace: Germania
Mother's Age: 28

Name: Selma Amundeen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 04 Jul 1877
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Residence Place: Manhattan, N.Y., N.Y., N.Y.
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birthplace: Manhattan, N.Y., N.Y., N.Y.
Burial Date: 06 Jul 1877
Burial Place: Lutheran Cemetery
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Name: Oscar Amundsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 09 Dec 1877
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Ole Amundsen
Mother's Name: Emma Klemm

Også en Robert født 1873 som gifter seg i 1895, men dette kan også være den ubenevnte fra november 1872

Name: Robert Amundsen
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 02 Nov 1895
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1873
Birthplace: New York
Father's Name: Ole
Mother's Name: Emma Klem
Spouse's Name: Mary Mcilwaine
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1876
Spouse's Birthplace: New York
Spouse's Father's Name: Willis
Spouse's Mother's Name: Annie Mckee

En av fadderne ved Roberts dåp var Martinus Amundsen.

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Robert Amundsen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1872
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1872
Baptism Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Ole Amundsen
Mother: Emma Augusta Klem
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Swedish American Church Records, 1800-1947
Name: Oscar Madvig Wilhelm Amundsen
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 9 Dec 1877
Birth Place: New York City
Baptism Date: 12 Feb 1878
Baptism Place: Gustavus Adolpus Lutheran Church, New York City, New York, New York, USA
Church: Gustavus Adolphus Lutheran Church
Father: Ole Amundsen
Mother: Emma Amundsen

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Fant 2 barn i tillegg. Blant fadderne til Edward var igjen Martinus Amundsen. Kanskje kjenner du igjen noen av de andre fadderne?

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Edward Amundsen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1871
Baptism Date: 28 Apr 1872
Baptism Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Ole Amundsen
Mother: Emma Augusta Amundsen
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York

The U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Bernhard Amundsen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1874
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1874
Baptism Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Ole Amundsen
Mother: Emma Amundsen
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York

[Trond Geir Strandhaug]

Foreldre og søsken til Ole

[gj25675]

Foreldre og søsken til Ole

Dette bekrefter at Ole har en bror ved navn Martinius født 1845, som stemmer med det Egil fant.

I en vielsesbekreftelse brukte Ole også navnet Arnesen ("Aremdsen"), så jeg mener det er overveiende sannsynlig at dette er riktig person.