open format for geneaological data?

[Yef]

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

Thanks.

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


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E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Dave Hinz]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:24:18 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

....which is kind of _like_ a standard...

[Robert M. Riches Jr.]

On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

[Dave Hinz]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:46:26 GMT, Robert M. Riches Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Ah, I thought it was just me seeing that. But, cut Steve some slack,
sometimes tools go stupid, sometimes servers do.

[Robert M. Riches Jr.]

On 2005-03-16, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:46:26 GMT, Robert M. Riches Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Ah, I thought it was just me seeing that. But, cut Steve some slack,
sometimes tools go stupid, sometimes servers do.

I understand that mechanical difficulties are often the
cause of repeated postings. I was just asking a question in
order to alert Steve that a problem exists. It was _not_
intended as a flame. (Maybe I shouldn't have put the
underscores around "more". Sorry.)

Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

[singhals]

Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:

On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM


Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

It appears to be something a news-server between Steve's desk and the
rest of the world is doing. Apparently, the server thinks it cancelled
the outgoing so it resends it then thinks it cancelled the outgoing and
resends ... They have been alerted by the man (Don Aiken) who figured it
out.

Cheryl

[Steve Hayes]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:46:26 GMT, "Robert M. Riches Jr."
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Direct all complaints to [email protected]

According to the headers of the repost mesages, the problem appears to be with
mindspring.com.

Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Steve Hayes]

On 16 Mar 2005 19:47:21 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:46:26 GMT, Robert M. Riches Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2005-03-16, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
On 15 Mar 2005 11:11:21 -0800, "Yef" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

This is probably a FAQ, but anyway...

Is there an open file format for geneaological data yet?
I am imagining something XML based, since that is easiest
for programs to deal with.

GEDCOM

Steve, how many _more_ times do you plan to repeat this?

Ah, I thought it was just me seeing that. But, cut Steve some slack,
sometimes tools go stupid, sometimes servers do.

At fist I suspected my server, but it appears that mindspring.com is
responsible, unles those messages are forgeries.


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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:10:55 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]>
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

My apologies, but...

Direct all complaints to [email protected]

According to the headers of the repost mesages, the problem appears to be with
mindspring.com.

Which header? I've looked at them and don't see a "mindspring"

in any of the duplicates I've looked at. And I'm ON an Earthlink server
(Earthlink has owned Mindspring for some years, since about a year after
Mindspring bought up Netcom).

This one?
Path:
newsspool2.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!newspump.sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!resurrector!repost!not-for-mail

(I find that "resurrector" node intriguing, along with the
"news.noc.cabal.int" )

or these?

Message-ID: <[email protected]>
X-Original-Path:
news.moreusenet.net!bins1-asbnva!newsfeeds.sol.net!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!grolier!194.74.65.66.MISMATCH!news-peer0-test!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail


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[Steve Hayes]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:50:49 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:10:55 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

My apologies, but...

Direct all complaints to [email protected]

According to the headers of the repost mesages, the problem appears to be with
mindspring.com.

Which header? I've looked at them and don't see a "mindspring"
in any of the duplicates I've looked at. And I'm ON an Earthlink server
(Earthlink has owned Mindspring for some years, since about a year after
Mindspring bought up Netcom).

This one?
Path:
newsspool2.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!newspump.sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!resurrector!repost!not-for-mail

(I find that "resurrector" node intriguing, along with the
"news.noc.cabal.int" )

or these?

Message-ID: <[email protected]
X-Original-Path:
news.moreusenet.net!bins1-asbnva!newsfeeds.sol.net!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!grolier!194.74.65.66.MISMATCH!news-peer0-test!btnet!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail

No, this one:

Sender: [email protected]
X-Reposted-By: [email protected]
X-Comments: This article is being re-posted. It was canceled
X-Comments: in error. For more information, please contact:
X-Comments: <[email protected]>.



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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:05:54 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]>
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

No, this one:

Sender: [email protected]
X-Reposted-By: [email protected]
X-Comments: This article is being re-posted. It was canceled
X-Comments: in error. For more information, please contact:
X-Comments: <[email protected]>.

I must have been blind last night -- I'd have sworn I didn't see
anything with "mindspring" in them...

Strange, since with all the mergers, the server is
news.west.earthlink.net (or .east.) -- they took down the old servers
from netcom/mindspring days, so why would the reposting be performed as
a mindspring admin account and not an earthlink admin.

I could almost visualize some cracker sending random cancels (I
have seen one or two other "repost:" subjects elsewhere) which are being
caught after the fact...

Ah well, my apologies for my initial "tone-of-voice" (I really
need to do the news scan earlier in the evening)


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