Exporting GEDCOM-Name Changing

[William Barfieldsr]

Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living names with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

--
William Barfieldsr

[john]

William Barfieldsr wrote:

Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living names with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

You need to have "Full information on living" or "Names of Living"

checked on the Include section of the Export screen.

[William Barfieldsr]

"john" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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William Barfieldsr wrote:
Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I
am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living names
with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a
program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

You need to have "Full information on living" or "Names of Living"
checked on the Include section of the Export screen.

I tried that but it still changed the names to "Living" when it made the web
page.
--
William Barfieldsr

[D. Stussy]

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, john wrote:

William Barfieldsr wrote:
Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living names with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

You need to have "Full information on living" or "Names of Living" checked on
the Include section of the Export screen.

Note also that if this for a public web site, some of the living may not want
to be listed. Have you asked them?

[I know that this is more of a policy issue than a computing one, but do you
really want those relatives who didn't want the information about them to be
made public to permanently brand you (or otherwise place you on their "hated
relatives" list)?]

[William Barfieldsr]

"D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, john wrote:
William Barfieldsr wrote:
Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I
am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living
names with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a
program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

You need to have "Full information on living" or "Names of Living"
checked on
the Include section of the Export screen.

Note also that if this for a public web site, some of the living may not
want
to be listed. Have you asked them?

[I know that this is more of a policy issue than a computing one, but do
you
really want those relatives who didn't want the information about them to
be
made public to permanently brand you (or otherwise place you on their
"hated
relatives" list)?]

I have since found it was the web host, RootsWeb Free Pages, that does the
editing. This is done even if I were using another program other that PAF to
create web pages. When I use PAF to export to my hard drive, it keeps the
information I entered. When I make web pages using PAF it edits out that
information even if I want to store the web page on my HD. I was looking for
a program that would create web pages from my gedcom as simple as PAF does,
but keep all the information just as I had entered it. Using what ever
program that I can find that does this, I would then post to a hosted site
that doesn't edit my information. I would never post information about
anyone that wasn't already in the public domain or that wasn't readily
available to the public as in the phone book or other public places. Any
information I post that isn't readily available to anyone, I will have their
permission to do so. If ever I do post something about someone and they
contact me and explain to me that the information posted is of a private
nature I would always remove it with an
apology.
--
William Barfieldsr

[Susan D. Young]

Hello William. et al.,

First, to give you precise instructions on how to circumvent the hiding of
details for those still living. These given below are Step-by-Step for PAF
5.2.18.0:

1. In 'family' view on your screen, go to 'Tools'.

2. Click on "create web page"

3. Select your individuals.

4. In the right-hand side of the portion below the "select" individuals
check to make sure that

a) "Hide details for the living" is unchecked; and,
b) "Show names" is unchecked.

5. Hit "Finish" once you have selected any other options.

If after you have done each of the above steps and you still have the
details hidden, you might want to check your "File" "Print Reports" section,
under "Individual Summary" to make sure that there is a check mark in the
box next to the option to show confidential notes and details.

Now, having given you the instructions on how to get PAF to do your bidding,
you might want to consider the following points.

I. England and Wales have a very strict Data Protection Act in place that
precisely dictates how any person is permitted to collect, store, maintain
and disseminate information concerning living individuals. If any of your
"living" creatures are thusly British, you will, unless you enlist with the
proper statutory authorities, immediately be in violation of several points
of their law.

II. Canada has a similar Privacy Law in place which protects the rights of
the living to assure that the vital information, i.e. birth date, birth
place, full name, et cetera, of all of its' citizens is not disseminated by
any authority without due process or justification. In additional to the
federal law, there are also individual provincial laws governing privacy
matters and the release of vital information. As I am a Canadian, I would
be extremely angered if someone on whose tree I sit published my details to
the web without my knowledge or consent.

III. Numerous individual States throughout the U.S.A. have adopted similar
privacy-related statutes which now make it necessary to prove one's right to
a particular piece of vital information concerning an individual - living or
deceased - before the paperwork is released.

IV. France, Germany, Italy and numerous other European countries have
privacy laws which are much more stringent than that of England and Wales.
Among those cited here, France is the most notorious for demanding absolute
proof of descent before releasing any details of any individual, living or
deceased.

V. In general, having regard to the current climate of internet crime and
in particular, identity theft, I would be very displeased if someone
proceeded to publish my vital details on the internet. In fact, I do have a
website - my professional website that lists only the names of my ancestors.
That is all I will ever permit to be circulated in the general world wide
web concerning any of my family members, myself included. My professional
website has attached to the backend, in a protected directory, a full
PAF-generated website to which only proven descendants are given a nod to
access. Even still, that site has hidden all of the details of the living.
It would be ghastly enough should a usurper make off with the details of one
of the dead to attempt a resurrection of an identity, but I can tell you,
that I sure do not want to bear the responsibility of putting that type of
information concerning a living relative into the wrong hands.

In the words of a once popular American TV show, "Let's be careful out
there!"

Best wishes,
Susan D. Young
[email protected]
http://www.ancestrysolutions.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "William Barfieldsr" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: Exporting GEDCOM-Name Changing

Is there a program for making gedcoms and exporting them with ALL the
information intact and possibly making a webpage. I am using PAF and I am
very frustrated when it changes the names of people it considers as
"Living". I made a webpage with it and it replaced all the living names
with
just "Living". If I had wanted that done, I wouldn't have gone to the
trouble of entering the information in the first place. Is there a program
out there that doesn't "CENSURE" what I have entered?

--
William Barfieldsr

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[Hugh Watkins]

""Susan D. Young"" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hello William. et al.,

First, to give you precise instructions
snipped

Now, having given you the instructions on how to get PAF to do your
bidding,
you might want to consider the following points.

I. England and Wales have a very strict Data Protection Act in place that
precisely dictates how any person is permitted to collect, store, maintain
and disseminate information concerning living individuals. If any of your
"living" creatures are thusly British, you will, unless you enlist with
the
proper statutory authorities, immediately be in violation of several
points
of their law.

II. Canada has a similar Privacy Law snipped

V. In general, having regard to the current climate of internet crime and
in particular, identity theft, I would be very displeased if someone
proceeded to publish my vital details on the internet. In fact, I do have
a
website - my professional website that lists only the names of my
ancestors.
That is all I will ever permit to be circulated in the general world wide
web concerning any of my family members, myself included. My professional
website has attached to the backend, in a protected directory, a full
PAF-generated website to which only proven descendants are given a nod to
access. Even still, that site has hidden all of the details of the
living.
It would be ghastly enough should a usurper make off with the details of
one
of the dead to attempt a resurrection of an identity, but I can tell you,
that I sure do not want to bear the responsibility of putting that type of
information concerning a living relative into the wrong hands.

In the words of a once popular American TV show, "Let's be careful out
there!"

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thank you Susan

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