Mari Gudbrandsdatter, born 1829-1831

[gj05515]

Hi,

Here is the marriage record for Mari Gudbrandsdatter and Even Christensen - #38

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Ringsaker, Klokkerbok nr. 6 (1851-1860), Ekteviede 1853, side 309.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-283

As I read it, she was born at Røhr, Ringsaker, the daughter of Gudbrand Jørgensen.

Here she is in the 1865 census:

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/we ... rk=14#ovre

And here in the 1875 census:

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/we ... =4955#ovre

She went to America in 1900 with her son Lars.

I am looking for a birth or confirmation record for Mari Gudbrandsdatter. I think that possibly her father (Gudbrand Jørgensen) is the son of Jørgen Jørgensen, but I can't find any records to prove it.

Mvh,

Brian Gaber

[dn05604]

Mari was born 1831 out of wedlock. There is no confirmationrecord.
Do you have information about emigration and Lars and Mari's destination ??

[gj05515]

Hello Hans,

Thank you for your reply.

When they left Norway in May 1900 they were heading for Cottonwood, Minnesota. In 1905 they were living in Eckles, Beltrami county, Minnesota.

Do you think this is the correct birth record?

#127

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Ringsaker, Ministerialbok nr. 7A (1826-1837), Fødte og døpte kvinner 1832, side 147.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-141

Her marriage record says the father was Gudbrand Jørgensen, but ths birth record say Gudbrand Jensen.

Tusen takk,

Brian

[dn05604]

Yes, this is correct birth/baptism for Mari. Her marriage record gave wrong patronymikon (last name) on her father which was Gulbrand Jensen (not Jørgensen).
Do you have Lars and Mari in a census 1910 ....

[gj05515]

Hello Hans,

Thank you again. I think Mari died between 1905 and 1910. She is not listed in any census after 1905:

1905 Minnesota State Census, Beltrami Co., Eckles twp, Wilton
Christensen, Lars, 33, born Norway, 6 years in state, 3 years in district
Julia, 22, born Norway, 4 years in state, 4 years in district
Edwin, 2, born Minnesota
Alfred, 1, born Minnesota
Mary, 76, born in Norway, 2 years 11 months in state

1910 Federal Census, State of Minnesota, Beltrami Co., Eckles
Christenson, Lars E., 38, born Norway, married 8 years, immigrated 1895
Julia, 27, born Norway, immigrated 1901
Edwin, 7, born MN
Alfred, 6, born MN
Carl, 5, born MN
Minnie 3, born MN
Ellen, 1 9/12, born MN

1920 Federal Census, State of Minnesota, Beltrami Co., Eckles
Christenson, Lars E., 48, born Norway, immigrated 1892
Julia, 37, born Norway, immigrated 1901
Edwin, 17, born MN
Alfred, 15, born MN
Carl, 14, born MN
Mina, 13, born MN
Ella, 11, born MN
Julius, 9, born MN
Clara, 7, born MN
Agnes, 5, born MN
Arthur, 2 7/12, born MN
Melvin, 10/12, born MN


1930 Federal Census, State of Minnesota, Beltrami Co., Eckles
Christensen, Lars, 57, born Norway, immigrated 1892
Julia A., 46, born Norway, immigrated 1900
Edwin, 27
Julius, 19
Agnes, 16
Arthur, 13
Melvin, 11
Eleanor, 8

Lars first went to America in April of 1892.

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Ringsaker i Ringsaker, Ministerialbok nr. 17 (1891-1902), Utflyttede 1892, side 350.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-339

Mvh,

Brian

[dn05604]

Thank you Brian, did not think of using Christenson as surname. This happens from time to time.
I have acces to several churchbooks fra Beltrami Co but do not know church name og congregation name in Eckles.
Would like to find baptism of Lars's children, his marriage to identify his wife and when Mary died.

[gj05515]

Hei Hans,

Are you related to this family? I am helping a friend in America.

I think this is the wife of Lars E. Christensen:

Anne Julie Andreasdatter Amlien, born 16 Sep 1882 in Vestre Toten, Oppland

Confirmation #11
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Eina i Vestre Toten, Ministerialbok nr. 12 (1890-1906), Konfirmerte 1897, side 80.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-76


1900 Census
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... &merk=4683

Leaving parish (#19):
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Eina i Vestre Toten, Ministerialbok nr. 12 (1890-1906), Utflyttede 1901-1903, side 188.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-137

Leaving Oslo:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... erk=146490

Arriving in Boston:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... id=1033184

Family rumors say Julia was pregnant when she arrived in America on 30 Sep 1903. That would explain how her first child was born 1903. She was originally planning on going to Decorah, Iowa, where her brother Julius lived. Julius went there in 1902 to the home of his uncle, Hans Martinson Amlien.

Julius:

Birth #4
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Eina i Vestre Toten, Ministerialbok nr. 12 (1890-1906), Konfirmerte 1900, side 85.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-81

Left Oslo for America on 12 Sep 1902, destination New York
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... mn=EMIOSLO

Arrived in New York 25 Sep 1902, final destination was Decorah, Iowa. Going to join uncle Hans Amlien
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... 4005692929

Probable 1st marriage in Great Falls, Montana
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1609797

Resided in US from 1902 - 1910 (Mont Ia)

Resided in Foremost, Alberta, Canada during World War I
Served with Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... pid=774440

[gj05515]

Hans,

Julia died in Bemidji, Beltrami county, Minnesota in 1978.

If you have access to church records, maybe you can find something that would show that this is the correct Julia. Everything looks like it fits, but I am missing "proof". I can't finfd birth records for any on the children with ancestry.com or familysearch.org.

The person I am helping told me that Julia was born Sep 1882, was probably from Vestre Toten, that Julia's mother was named Anne Marie Johansdatter and that Julia had a brother named Julius. This also shows that I must have the correct person.

What bothers me is that all census records say Julia, the wife of Lars, arrived in the US in 1901. I can't find a marriage record, there should be one in Beltrami county.

Brian

[gj05515]

I'm not too sure about "my" Julia....

The gravestone for Julia Christenson says she was born 27 Sep 1881.

Her 2nd son, Alfred, was born 16 Jan 1904. Since "my" Julia arrived on 30 Sep 1903,
she could not have had Edwin in 1903 after arriving in America, then Alfred a few weeks later.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=71814707

Brian

[gj05515]

Margit Nysetvold Bakke found the marriage record for Lar E. Christenson and Julia Anderson in Beltrami county.... the marrriage date was 27 Dec 1901. So I think I have the wrong Julia!

[dn05604]

Thank you Brian. No, I am not related, just interested in finding descendants after people emigrating from Ringsaker.
The Julia from Vestre Toten must be wrong since her surname was Andreassen/Amlien and going to her brother i Decorah IA.
Marriage record Lars and Julie could give more facts on her, perhaps her father's name. The only churchbook I have acces to from Beltrami is Northone. I guess they didi not use that church.
Congregations in Bemidji was Aardahl, Calvary, First, Numore, Salem W but I do not have access to them.