Trees with Legacy

[Clare L]

What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.

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Clare L

[John]

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:50:07 +0100, "Clare L" <[email protected]>
wrote:

What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.

How about 1100 people, many with missing or partial dates, in a 3 foot
by 27 foot printout?

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[Ron O'Neill]

"Clare L" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.
Clare L

First of all I would recommend that you alter all the dates to the correct
Gedcom format, instead of C, Circa, ab etc. use "Abt" (without quote marks).
This is the standard date format for "about" that should be recognised by
all genealogy programs. I don't know if Legacy has got a Find & Replace
feature that you can use to do this?

If it's an All in One Chart, Everyone (everybody in the file) on one tree
then I would suggest you download the full working version of Genbox, it's
free for 30 days, http://www.thoughtfulcreations.com use the program, print
the chart and then after 30 days it will go into read only mode and you will
not be able to enter any more data and you will have to purchase it to carry
on using it but at least you can print your chart.

Kind regards,
Ron O'Neill
http://www.genealogyprinters.com

[Philip Endecott]

Clare L wrote:

What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.

Hello Clare,

It's not particularly easy to plot "everyone" on a two-dimensional
piece of paper (and if anyone has good examples of how it can be done
I'd love to see them). I run the TREEFIC.com website; I think that it
does a respectable job of drawing tree diagrams from GEDCOMs and you
are more than welcome to try it. It is currently free, and after
uploading your GEDCOM you can save the diagram (or diagrams) in HTML,
PDF or SVG formats. The main difficulty at the moment is getting it
to understand all the oddities that people have in their GEDCOM files,
such as odd dates...

I concur with the view that you should replace "c", "circ", "ab" etc.
with "Abt". I'm suprised that so many genealogy programs will save
just about anything as a GEDCOM date when the spec is quite specific
about what is allowed and what is not - it is a miracle that you can
ever transfer GEDCOM from one program to another! I suggest that you
open your GEDCOM file in a text editor (e.g. wordpad or notepad) and
search-and-replace these non-standard abbreviations.

Good luck,

Phil Endecott - Treefic.com

[Rgemini]

Philip Endecott wrote:
<snip>

It's not particularly easy to plot "everyone" on a two-dimensional
piece of paper (and if anyone has good examples of how it can be done
I'd love to see them). I run the TREEFIC.com website; I think that it
does a respectable job of drawing tree diagrams from GEDCOMs and you
are more than welcome to try it. It is currently free, and after
uploading your GEDCOM you can save the diagram (or diagrams) in HTML,
PDF or SVG formats. The main difficulty at the moment is getting it
to understand all the oddities that people have in their GEDCOM files,
such as odd dates...
snip

Hi Phil

I've got an example which I currently generate using VBA from Excel,
importing the data from a GEDCOM 5.5 file out of Legacy. I set out to show
everyone in my tree, grouping them into generations horizontally and surname
groups vertically, and using colour coding for different surnames.

Take a look at http://www.ayresonline.me.uk/famtree/famtree.htm. It differs
from most diagrams by showing each marriage twice; once for the husband and
once for the wife. Each of them appears in their usual place in their own
family, together with an extra box representing their spouse. Children are
shown descending from the husband's marriage and a triangle is shown from
the wife's marriage; if clicked it takes you to the husband and children.
The triangle points in the direction to look.

Let me know what you think,

regards
Roy Ayres

[Clare L]

"Ron O'Neill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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"Clare L" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.
Clare L


First of all I would recommend that you alter all the dates to the correct
Gedcom format, instead of C, Circa, ab etc. use "Abt" (without quote
marks).
This is the standard date format for "about" that should be recognised by
all genealogy programs. I don't know if Legacy has got a Find & Replace
feature that you can use to do this?

If it's an All in One Chart, Everyone (everybody in the file) on one tree
then I would suggest you download the full working version of Genbox, it's
free for 30 days, http://www.thoughtfulcreations.com use the program,
print
the chart and then after 30 days it will go into read only mode and you
will
not be able to enter any more data and you will have to purchase it to
carry
on using it but at least you can print your chart.

Kind regards,
Ron O'Neill
http://www.genealogyprinters.com

I've tried with Abt - checking the Gedcom shows that it exports it fine. But
when Genopro opens it doesn't seem to see it - and the date field is empty!

I'll try the other suggestion.

Ta
Clare

[Clare L]

"Philip Endecott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Clare L wrote:
What works well with Legacy to produce a tree that shows everyone?
I've tried Genopro but that doesn't handle dates well if you put in c or
circ or ab etc. Which in lot of cases is what I have as dates are
guestimates from census etc.

Hello Clare,

It's not particularly easy to plot "everyone" on a two-dimensional
piece of paper (and if anyone has good examples of how it can be done
I'd love to see them). I run the TREEFIC.com website; I think that it
does a respectable job of drawing tree diagrams from GEDCOMs and you
are more than welcome to try it. It is currently free, and after
uploading your GEDCOM you can save the diagram (or diagrams) in HTML,
PDF or SVG formats. The main difficulty at the moment is getting it
to understand all the oddities that people have in their GEDCOM files,
such as odd dates...

I concur with the view that you should replace "c", "circ", "ab" etc.
with "Abt". I'm suprised that so many genealogy programs will save
just about anything as a GEDCOM date when the spec is quite specific
about what is allowed and what is not - it is a miracle that you can
ever transfer GEDCOM from one program to another! I suggest that you
open your GEDCOM file in a text editor (e.g. wordpad or notepad) and
search-and-replace these non-standard abbreviations.

Good luck,

Phil Endecott - Treefic.com

Genopro doesn't even seem to able to handle a Abt, unless I am completely
missing something. But a Notepad examination of the Gedcom shows Abt to be
there, but once Genopro gets it sticky little paws on it, it disappears.

Am off to visit Treefic.

Clare
http://www.lamaction.org

[Philip Endecott]

I wrote:

It's not particularly easy to plot "everyone" on a two-dimensional
piece of paper (and if anyone has good examples of how it can be done
I'd love to see them).

Roy Ayres replied:

I've got an example which I currently generate using VBA from Excel,
importing the data from a GEDCOM 5.5 file out of Legacy. I set out to show
everyone in my tree, grouping them into generations horizontally and surname
groups vertically, and using colour coding for different surnames.

Take a look at http://www.ayresonline.me.uk/famtree/famtree.htm. It differs
from most diagrams by showing each marriage twice; once for the husband and
once for the wife. Each of them appears in their usual place in their own
family, together with an extra box representing their spouse. Children are
shown descending from the husband's marriage and a triangle is shown from
the wife's marriage; if clicked it takes you to the husband and children.
The triangle points in the direction to look.

That's interesting, and it works well as a web page because you can
jump from one place where a person is shown to the other by clicking
on their name.

You get over the problem of fitting everyone onto a flat surface by
breaking up the diagram into a collection of smaller trees with links
between them. It's not so much a tree as a "hedge". If you were more
flexible about which parent the children are shown below you could
make it a bit les fragmented (e.g. show them under the mother when
none of the father's ancestors are recorded).

I'm still curious to know if there are better solutions...

Regards,

Phil.


P.S. I have just uploaded the well-known "royal92.ged" European royal
families genealogy with 3010 individualy by Denis Reid into Treefic.
There isn't a link from the front page yet but you can see it at
http://treefic.com/treefic/royal92. Tell me what you think. I've
just made a 36-page PDF of 26 generations of descendants of William
the Conqueror...