Ingvald Martinsen Sørmoen to Minnesota 1913

[gj09557]

My dad's uncle, Ingvald Martinsen Sørmoen from Gran, born December 10, 1892 left Kristiania, Norway April 2, 1913. Destination: Wisconsin.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... 15585#ovre

He probably got his ticket from his aunt Ingeborg Severson in Barron County, WI.
She came to Minnesota 1900 and was married to Simon B. Severson in the US.
Ingvald did not stay there long. He went to Canada for work in the forests winter 1913/1914. After that he worked as a conductor on local trains in Minneapolis.
He wanted to go to the military service, but I don't know if he did.
After a while got married. Is it possible to find the name of the bride and where she came from. Probably they did not have any kids. Ingvald also changed his name to Envald Mortenson, but I don't know when.

Later he lived as a car seller in Minneapolis. After some years he was married to Arlene Rasmussen and they got 2 kids. Ingvald died March 14, 1975 in Minneapolis. I know his kids well, but they don't know anything about his first marriage.

If somebody could help me, it would be great. Please write down where to find this inforamation on the web.

Thank you.
Even Haugseth, Oslo, Norway

[Vigdis Jøsang]

Is his father's name Martin Edvardsen? It is the relative's name in Norway.

Foun him on a passenger list:

Name: Ingvald Martinsen
Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1913
Age: 20 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Canada
Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine
Friend's Name: Ingeborg Seversen
Last Residence: Norway
Birthplace: Brandber, Norway
Microfilm Roll Number: 22

[gj09557]

Hei Vigdis
Takk for at du tok deg tid til å lete igjen.
Jeg er ny i DIS og usikker på søking i amerikanske databaser. Kan du forklare hvor du fant han? Har fått god hjelp av Margit og deg med andre ting, men vil gjerne lære litt om hvor jeg finner ting. Ja, hans far var Martin Edvardsen. Akkurat den opplysningen om Ingeborg Seversen var faktisk viktig for meg, for det var hans tante i Wisconsin. Hadde en antakelse om at det måtte være henne som sendte billett til Ingvald. Familien her i Norge hadde ingen kontakt med henne senere, så jeg har nå ved hjelp av Laila Normann Christiansen i DIS funnet igjen etterkommerne hennes. Skal faktisk besøke Ingvalds datter og familie i Minnesota nå i juli. Da treffer jeg også et par av barnebarna til Ingeborg som jeg kun har visst om siden i vinter. Skal da se den gamle, nedlagte farmen hvor Ingeborg bodde. I tillegg blir det vel en tur i området i Barron County for å se gravsteiner og annet. Gøy!

Even

[Vigdis Jøsang]

Hei

Jeg bruker http://www.ancestry.com. Det koster å være medlem der. Jeg har worldwide-medlemskap og har dermed tilgang til ulike databaser fra store deler av verden. Man kan søke litt uten å betale medlemsskap også, men da er det begrenset hva man får se av originaler som er koblet til treffene.

Jeg søkte på Ingvald Martinsen, med fødselsår 1892 +/- 1 og da fikk jeg opp noen treff, blant annet denne. De andre passer ikke med fødselsår / dato.

Legger ved linken til passsersjer-listen her, i tilfelle du finner på å prøve ut et medlemsskap.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... pl&indiv=1

Man kan prøve ut medlemsskapet en måneds tid, men man må betale først og så trekke tilbake medlemskapet før betalingen blir effektuert. Dersom du er på jakt etter etterkommere er denne å anbefale. Man kan nemlig legge inn sine tre, og få opp andre som forsker i samme grein. Det var gjennom denne jeg fikk kontakt med mine ukjente slektninger der borte.

Margit har også laget et innlegg hvor hun har listet opp en del databaser å søke i. https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... hp?t=72155

Mvh
Vigdis

[Margit R Bakke]

More:

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Josephine Mortenson
Home in 1930: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
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Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife
Spouse's name: Engwald
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Engwald Mortenson 36
Josephine Mortenson 34
Kenneth D Mortenson 12

[Margit R Bakke]

Hei Even,
When searching for information, always think "Outside the Box". It is best to be flexible on spellings and use less when searching, like Eng* or Ing* Mort*

Social Security Death Index
Name: Engwald Mortenson
SSN: 472-03-6446
Last Residence: 55428 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States of America
Born: 10 Dec 1892
Died: Mar 1975
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (Before 1951)

[Margit R Bakke]

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Kenneth D Mortenson
Home in 1930: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
View Map
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
Relation to Head-of-house: Stepson
Mother's Name: Josephine
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Engwald Mortenson 36
Josephine Mortenson 34
Kenneth D Mortenson 12

[Margit R Bakke]

See attachment:

[Margit R Bakke]

From Ancestry:

Mortenson, Kenneth Donald
Kenneth Donald Mortenson, 86, of Mesa, Arizona, passed away Monday, February 2, 2004 in Mesa. Services will be held 2:00 PM, Friday, February 6, 2004, Mountain View Mortuary Chapel, 7900 E. Main St., Mesa.
Published in the Arizona Republic on 2/4/2004.


Social Security Death Index
Name: Kenneth D. Mortenson
SSN: 472-05-0617
Last Residence: 85205 Mesa, Maricopa, Arizona, United States of America
Born: 27 Jul 1917
Died: 2 Feb 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (Before 1951)

[Margit R Bakke]

From ancestry, Minnesota Births:

Name Birth Day Birth County Father Mother Order Record
Carol Ann Mortenson 23 May 1944 Hennepin Kenneth Donald Mortenson Gladys Sylvia Skog
Barbara Jean Mortenson 19 Apr 1946 Hennepin Kenneth Donald Mortenson Gladys Sylvia Skog
Sandra Kay Mortenson 26 Oct 1951 Hennepin Kenneth Donald Mortenson Gladys Sylvia Skog

[Vigdis Jøsang]

You have done a good job here, Margit.

Now, I have now also learned more about searching. I was not aware that it was possible to use wildchart * when searching.


Vigdis

[gj09557]

Thanks again Vigdis and Margit.
This is just fantastic. I'll visit Ingvald's daughter from his 2nd marriage in Duluth later this summer. She told me that he was married to a woman before her mother, but didn't know anything about his first marriage and who he was married to. Now I can tell her about this.
I can see out of the Census sheet that Ingvald was married first time when he was 34 or about 1928. Is it possible to find records about that?
He probably married his 2nd wife Arlene Rasmussen before their first child was born in November 1943.
Did Josephin Mortenson die or was she divorced from Ingvald?
Do you have census from every 10th year? Is it possible to find Ingvald in 1920?
Please tell me how to search.
Thanks.
Even

[Margit R Bakke]

Even,
Do you have ancestry.com? I have tried every which way to search for him in 1920. I suspect he was up in Canada at that time. The child Kenneth was not his child, but his wife's child from another relationship. Perhaps he adopted him or Kenneth just used his name. I suspect that they got divorced. I think I find Josephine dying in Minnesota: (Obituaries would have to be checked before you can say this is your person for sure)

Maybe this one??


Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002
Name: Josephine Hazel Mortenson
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1896
Death Date: 29 Jun 1971
Death County: Hennepin
State file number: 016517
Certificate Number: 016517
Certificate Year: 1971
Record Number: 1816371

[gj09557]

Hi Margit
I don't know how to thank you for this.
Sorry, I,m not in ancestry.com yet. Maybe I'll have it later.
In the census you found for 1930 Kenneth is Ingvald's step son and Ingvald (36) was married to Josephine when he was 34. Her first marriage was when she was 21. The last record you found on her death should also be the correct year for her birth. In the census there is an H. after her first name and that might be H. for Hazel.
About the census for 1920. I don't think Ingvald was in Canada at that time. My feeling is that he worked in Canada the first winter he was in America 1913-14. We also have some photos taken in Minneapolis when he was very young, and he worked as a train conductor. In the census 1930 he is a "Salesman" of "Automobiles". That was also his profession for many years after 1930. We also heard that he wanted to go to the military service in the US probably before 1917, and he wrote home to his parents in Norway about that. He wanted their signature for accepting this, but they didn't want him to do it, and they didn't sign.
I don't know if he went to the service. Maybe he started as a conductor in Minneapolis intead. I don't know if he stayed with his aunt and uncle Ingeborg and Simon B. Severson in Cameron, WI either. I don't know when he changed his name from Ingvald Martinsen to Engvald Mortenson. Maybe he's registered under his original name in 1920?
Thanks for checking.
Even