pre-historical parts of genealogy of the Yamato dynasty, pre

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pre-historical parts of genealogy of the Yamato dynasty, pre

Legg inn av M.Sjostrom » 13. januar 2008 kl. 17.17

The useful and careful collection of Genealogics (in
this part according to my advice) presents the
historically somewhat acceptable part of
pre-historical Yamato dynasty genealogy as follows:
http://genealogics.org/descend.php?pers ... 8&tree=LEO

None of these persons are attested by contemporary
archival record. Some traces of some of them have been
found by archaeologists. Practically no information
about their genealogy is based on contemporary
sources, in those archaeological finds, they rather
stand as individuals, not as part of genealogy; in
other words, on basis of extant contemporary material,
any genealogy would be extremely fragmented.

Nearest non-contemporary sources which present their
genealogy, are those two oldest large Japanese
compilations, Kojiki and Nihonshogi.
For example, Kojiki was compiled in around 600 CE or
so. Presumably much of it was based on archival recods
now disapperead, but yet extant in 600s and 700s.
It seems to be believed that earliest archival
material was not kept before 500s.
Anything earlier than that, would therefore be based
on tradition, folklore, oral memory, such things.

I have generally relied on that people and families
tend to be reliably enough aware of their main
ancestry lineages within the past century, but
probably not further than that without reliability
suffering fatally.
Thus, reigning families' genealogical lines throughout
400s CE Japan would hopefully be reliable enough, as
presented in Genealogics, without fabrication and
inventive genealogy damaging too much of the
genealogical truth.


I am asking those who know something about relevant
sources and histories, as well as detailed
reliabilities, to check the following, and make
comments. How trustworthy are individual linkages in
these genealogies, how reliably can these be
presented, what else is known about them, and so
forth.
And, if any more archaeological finds are known which
concern these, please inform.


Genealogical lineage of Yamato rulers through 400s CE.

1 mythical empress Jingu kogo
regent of Yamato, 'conqueror in Korea'

2 great king Hondawake 'Ojin' okimi, King
in Yamato (15th Japanese Monarch in traditional count)

3 Sazaki 'Nintoku' okimi, King
in Yamato (16th Japanese Monarch in traditional count)
* lady Iwanohime

4 Asazuma 'Ingyo'
okimi, King in Yamato (19th Japanese Monarch in
traditional count) d. Abt 455
+ lady
Oshisaka-no-Onakatsu-no-Hime

5 great
king Waka Takeru 'Yuryaku' okimi, King of Yamato,
presumably in Hatsuse, 21st Monarch in traditional
count [this monarch is believed to be the 'king Bu of
Wa' in Chinese chronicle material of the time] b. Abt
430 d. Abt 490



6 queen & imperial princess Kasuga naishinno,
heiress of Hatsuse, heiress in Yamato
married
great king Oyoke 'Ninken' okimi, king of Great Yamato
ca.498-ca.504, 24th Japanese monarch in traditional
count d. Abt 504


7 queen Tashiraga of Hatsuse, heiress of
Yamato
married Ohoto 'Keitai' okimi, chieftain of Koshi, king
of Great Yamato (26th Japanese Monarch in traditional
count), ruled c.510-c.530, b. Abt 450 d. 7 Feb (534)


8 great king Amehara Oshiharaki Hironiwa
'Kinmei' okimi, King of Great Yamato, 29th Monarch of
Japan in traditional count, c539-571 b. 509 d. 571




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