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[M.Sjostrom]

"So the expression "the princes in the tower" would
not have been used by any contemporaries of Richard
III? "


possibly not. But rather more likely they would have
been thought as "the two Princes in the Tower"
- in the sense like if one puts today the Prince of
Monaco and the Prince of Liechtenstein to the Tower.


At that time, the young Richard was Duke of York and
Norfolk; Edward had been king briefly, but was
possibly better known as Prince of Wales.

It is thus relatively possible that people may have
thought them as substantive Princes, one of them
titular fiefholder over Wales and the other, noble and
puissant Prince, as duke over those two English
things.




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[Leticia Cluff]

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:16:42 -0800 (PST), "M.Sjostrom" <[email protected]>
wrote:

"So the expression "the princes in the tower" would
not have been used by any contemporaries of Richard
III? "


possibly not. But rather more likely they would have
been thought as "the two Princes in the Tower"
- in the sense like if one puts today the Prince of
Monaco and the Prince of Liechtenstein to the Tower.


At that time, the young Richard was Duke of York and
Norfolk; Edward had been king briefly, but was
possibly better known as Prince of Wales.

It is thus relatively possible that people may have
thought them as substantive Princes, one of them
titular fiefholder over Wales and the other, noble and
puissant Prince, as duke over those two English
things.

I see that Sir Thomas More, who wrote his History of King Richard III
between 1513 and 1518, referred to them as "these two noble princes,
these innocent tender children" and speaks of "the tender age of the
young princes, his nephews."

Tish