Bonus Census entry

[Helen Castle]

Recently while staying in Sydney, on 6 September 2006, the people we were
staying with were subject to a quality assurance check on their census entry
and as a result we got included in the census in 2 places - our own entry on
8 August and the QA one on 6 September 2006. What a bonus for my
descendants.

I thought the fellow said it was a QA exercise and tried to look it up on
http://www.abs.gov.au

Anyone out there working on the census who can tell me what it was about?

We were very busy socialising and drinking and didnt pay much attention to
what he was doing, my girlfriend had to re-answer a lot of the questions and
so did we.

Several glasses of champagne had been consumed and we really didnt pay all
that much attention - the poor fellow had to cope with us laughing and
joking and having a generally good time while he filled out his paperwork.

It had been pre-arranged and was bona fide - they had just forgotten about
it when we got there.

Helen Castle
Narangba

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:33:40 +1000, "Helen Castle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Recently while staying in Sydney, on 6 September 2006, the people we were
staying with were subject to a quality assurance check on their census entry
and as a result we got included in the census in 2 places - our own entry on
8 August and the QA one on 6 September 2006. What a bonus for my
descendants.

I thought the fellow said it was a QA exercise and tried to look it up on
http://www.abs.gov.au

Anyone out there working on the census who can tell me what it was about?

We were very busy socialising and drinking and didnt pay much attention to
what he was doing, my girlfriend had to re-answer a lot of the questions and
so did we.

Several glasses of champagne had been consumed and we really didnt pay all
that much attention - the poor fellow had to cope with us laughing and
joking and having a generally good time while he filled out his paperwork.

It had been pre-arranged and was bona fide - they had just forgotten about
it when we got there.

Helen Castle
Narangba

I must have misplaced my invitation to the party.

Hugh

[Kerry Raymond]

I thought the fellow said it was a QA exercise and tried to look it up on
http://www.abs.gov.au

I think you were part of the Post Enumeration Survey (go to ABS's WWW page
and put Post Enumeration Survey into their search tool). But to save you the
trouble, below are some paragraphs taken from:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats ... 1_2006.pdf

Whenever a Census is undertaken, questions about the completeness and
accuracy of
the Census count invariably arise. In such a large and complex exercise, it
is inevitable
that some people will be missed and some will be included more than once.
....
Usually more people are missed than overcounted in Australia, so the Census
count of
the population would be less than the true population. This difference is
called net
undercount. Rates of undercount can vary significantly for different
population groups depending on
factors such as sex, age, ethnicity (including Indigenous origin) and
geographic location.
The ABS obtains estimates of net undercount using information collected in a
post-enumeration survey conducted immediately following the Census.
....
In Australia, estimates of net undercount in the Census are based on the
results of the
Census Post Enumeration Survey (PES). The purpose of the PES is to determine
how
many people were missed in the Census and how many were counted more than
once.
The PES is a household survey conducted by specially trained interviewers
starting about
three weeks after Census night. This is a different collection methodology
to the Census,
where most forms are self completed. A major advantage of interviewer
administered
questionnaires is that people can be provided with assistance if they are
uncertain about
the meaning of any questions.
....
Using this address information, the corresponding Census forms are examined
at the
Census data processing centre to confirm how many times each person in the
PES was
counted in the Census. The results of this process are then combined and
weighted to
produce an estimate of net undercount in the Census.

[Helen Castle]

Thanks Kerry

Didnt realise i had posted to computing newsgroup thought I had posted to
australia+nz

This sounds like what we had.

Thanks for that

Helen
"Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I thought the fellow said it was a QA exercise and tried to look it up
on
http://www.abs.gov.au

I think you were part of the Post Enumeration Survey (go to ABS's WWW page
and put Post Enumeration Survey into their search tool). But to save you
the trouble, below are some paragraphs taken from:

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats ... 1_2006.pdf

Whenever a Census is undertaken, questions about the completeness and
accuracy of
the Census count invariably arise. In such a large and complex exercise,
it is inevitable
that some people will be missed and some will be included more than once.
...
Usually more people are missed than overcounted in Australia, so the
Census count of
the population would be less than the true population. This difference is
called net
undercount. Rates of undercount can vary significantly for different
population groups depending on
factors such as sex, age, ethnicity (including Indigenous origin) and
geographic location.
The ABS obtains estimates of net undercount using information collected in
a
post-enumeration survey conducted immediately following the Census.
...
In Australia, estimates of net undercount in the Census are based on the
results of the
Census Post Enumeration Survey (PES). The purpose of the PES is to
determine how
many people were missed in the Census and how many were counted more than
once.
The PES is a household survey conducted by specially trained interviewers
starting about
three weeks after Census night. This is a different collection methodology
to the Census,
where most forms are self completed. A major advantage of interviewer
administered
questionnaires is that people can be provided with assistance if they are
uncertain about
the meaning of any questions.
...
Using this address information, the corresponding Census forms are
examined at the
Census data processing centre to confirm how many times each person in the
PES was
counted in the Census. The results of this process are then combined and
weighted to
produce an estimate of net undercount in the Census.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:37:24 +1000, "Helen Castle"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Kerry

Didnt realise i had posted to computing newsgroup thought I had posted to
australia+nz

That must be some party.

Hugh

[Helen Castle]

Sorry - next time I will let you know - It's just under the flight path to
Sydney(Australia) airport so you could drop in before landing

Helen

"J. Hugh Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:37:24 +1000, "Helen Castle"
[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Kerry

Didnt realise i had posted to computing newsgroup thought I had posted to
australia+nz

That must be some party.

Hugh

[Everett M. Greene]

"Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> writes:

I thought the fellow said it was a QA exercise and tried to
look it up on http://www.abs.gov.au

I think you were part of the Post Enumeration Survey (go to ABS's
WWW page and put Post Enumeration Survey into their search tool).
[snip]
Whenever a Census is undertaken, questions about the completeness and
accuracy of the Census count invariably arise. In such a large and
complex exercise, it is inevitable that some people will be missed
and some will be included more than once.
....
[snip]

Do people in the U.S. remember the big flap about the
Census Bureau adjusting the counts for the 2000 census?
There were the nut cases here who believed that the
numbers shouldn't be adjust under any circumstance
whatever -- a count is a count, is a count,...

One of the almancs I have gives the population of China
to 10 decimal places. I've wondered for which nanosecond
point in time this number was produced.