Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
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Ol' Bab
Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and
husband on IGI, with no other data.
NO other searches return hits. I tried a LOT of variants!
Soundex gives 20,00 bad guesses. If there was a good guess, it
was after the 30 + pages I labored through.
Hint: Might be French -she married a LeComte. BUT her first
name is Sarah. Hmm.
If I could find one, I'd pour through the pages of a fat
French phone book. (Std Internet phone search requires knowing
the name first. No help.)
So I turn to the multi-lingual among the good people here for
some good guesses. Please..
When and where is not the point, it's the name that draws
blanks. (Oh, alright, she had a child Evelyn in NYC in 1868,
husband was Vincent Nicholas LeComte.)
Ol' Bab
husband on IGI, with no other data.
NO other searches return hits. I tried a LOT of variants!
Soundex gives 20,00 bad guesses. If there was a good guess, it
was after the 30 + pages I labored through.
Hint: Might be French -she married a LeComte. BUT her first
name is Sarah. Hmm.
If I could find one, I'd pour through the pages of a fat
French phone book. (Std Internet phone search requires knowing
the name first. No help.)
So I turn to the multi-lingual among the good people here for
some good guesses. Please..
When and where is not the point, it's the name that draws
blanks. (Oh, alright, she had a child Evelyn in NYC in 1868,
husband was Vincent Nicholas LeComte.)
Ol' Bab
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Joe Pessarra
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
"Ol' Bab" <olbabnospam@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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An Ellis Island search finds no Sonenie, but a pick of the first alternate
given, Somenie, finds the following:
1. Nicolo Somenie Castelnovo 1892 45
Looks like it might be Spanish or Italian. Checking the other possible
spellings gives -
Close matches - just Nicolo above.
Alternate spellings -
1. Elisabetta Somani 1896 20 96%
2. Stefano Somani 1896 50 96%
3. Antonia Somania Italy 1905 27 96%
Sounds like gave 28511 hits, so I didn't go there.
No Somanie in Spain or Italy phone directory on the Net.
5 Somani listings and no Somania listings in Italy phone directory at
http://www.infobel.com/italy/
Telephone directories on the Net are at http://www.infobel.com/teldir/
Ellsi Island records are at http://www.ellisisland.org/
Good luck.
Joe in Texas
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I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and
husband on IGI, with no other data.
An Ellis Island search finds no Sonenie, but a pick of the first alternate
given, Somenie, finds the following:
1. Nicolo Somenie Castelnovo 1892 45
Looks like it might be Spanish or Italian. Checking the other possible
spellings gives -
Close matches - just Nicolo above.
Alternate spellings -
1. Elisabetta Somani 1896 20 96%
2. Stefano Somani 1896 50 96%
3. Antonia Somania Italy 1905 27 96%
Sounds like gave 28511 hits, so I didn't go there.
No Somanie in Spain or Italy phone directory on the Net.
5 Somani listings and no Somania listings in Italy phone directory at
http://www.infobel.com/italy/
Telephone directories on the Net are at http://www.infobel.com/teldir/
Ellsi Island records are at http://www.ellisisland.org/
Good luck.
Joe in Texas
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Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
Ol' Bab wrote:
all combinations of n=u and m=w and sometimes n=w and u=m, etc. In
1800's the handwriting style was to make these letters similar. When
indexing, these are often read incorrectly.
Margaret
I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and husband on
IGI, with no other data.
NO other searches return hits. I tried a LOT of variants!
Soundex gives 20,00 bad guesses. If there was a good guess, it was after
the 30 + pages I labored through.
Hint: Might be French -she married a LeComte. BUT her first name is
Sarah. Hmm.
If I could find one, I'd pour through the pages of a fat French phone
book. (Std Internet phone search requires knowing the name first. No
help.)
So I turn to the multi-lingual among the good people here for some good
guesses. Please..
When and where is not the point, it's the name that draws blanks. (Oh,
alright, she had a child Evelyn in NYC in 1868, husband was Vincent
Nicholas LeComte.)
Ol' Bab
n's can be a big problem not helped with Soundex. Interchange and try
all combinations of n=u and m=w and sometimes n=w and u=m, etc. In
1800's the handwriting style was to make these letters similar. When
indexing, these are often read incorrectly.
Margaret
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singhals
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
Ol' Bab wrote:
Interesting ... there are a couple hundred men named Vincent in the 1870
NY census, none with a surname that looks anything like So* or Lo*.
Only about 50 in NJ, but still nothing. Nicholas as a given name was a
different kettle of worms, but I didn't spot anything in Kings, NY, or
Queens counties NY.
Might be back to the phone book -- try Jean as a given name; being the
French equiv of John, the Christian world's most common given name, you
might get lucky. Jacques might work too.
Hmmmm...
Cheryl
I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and husband on
IGI, with no other data.
NO other searches return hits. I tried a LOT of variants!
Soundex gives 20,00 bad guesses. If there was a good guess, it was after
the 30 + pages I labored through.
Hint: Might be French -she married a LeComte. BUT her first name is
Sarah. Hmm.
If I could find one, I'd pour through the pages of a fat French phone
book. (Std Internet phone search requires knowing the name first. No
help.)
So I turn to the multi-lingual among the good people here for some good
guesses. Please..
When and where is not the point, it's the name that draws blanks. (Oh,
alright, she had a child Evelyn in NYC in 1868, husband was Vincent
Nicholas LeComte.)
Ol' Bab
Interesting ... there are a couple hundred men named Vincent in the 1870
NY census, none with a surname that looks anything like So* or Lo*.
Only about 50 in NJ, but still nothing. Nicholas as a given name was a
different kettle of worms, but I didn't spot anything in Kings, NY, or
Queens counties NY.
Might be back to the phone book -- try Jean as a given name; being the
French equiv of John, the Christian world's most common given name, you
might get lucky. Jacques might work too.
Hmmmm...
Cheryl
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Joe Pessarra
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
"Ol' Bab" <olbabnospam@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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As my first post indicated, I think a good possibility is that the name is
Somenie, and that it is Italian. You might want to search for Somenie
records in the town of Castelnuovo, which is where the Ellis Island Somenie
came from. Just a possibility. Of course, that could have been a
mis-recorded name in the Ellis Island records as well.
Good luck.
Joe in Texas
news:hSScd.311097$bp1.135264@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and
husband on IGI, with no other data.
As my first post indicated, I think a good possibility is that the name is
Somenie, and that it is Italian. You might want to search for Somenie
records in the town of Castelnuovo, which is where the Ellis Island Somenie
came from. Just a possibility. Of course, that could have been a
mis-recorded name in the Ellis Island records as well.
Good luck.
Joe in Texas
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Tara
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
I haven't got a good guess, but according to the 1880 census, her parents
were from England. Anyone out there recognize a close English surname?
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Tara Larkin
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were from England. Anyone out there recognize a close English surname?
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Tara Larkin
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I figure this is a typo-afflicted surname. Found her and husband on IGI,
with no other data.
NO other searches return hits. I tried a LOT of variants!
Soundex gives 20,00 bad guesses. If there was a good guess, it was after
the 30 + pages I labored through.
Hint: Might be French -she married a LeComte. BUT her first name is Sarah.
Hmm.
If I could find one, I'd pour through the pages of a fat French phone
book. (Std Internet phone search requires knowing the name first. No
help.)
So I turn to the multi-lingual among the good people here for some good
guesses. Please..
When and where is not the point, it's the name that draws blanks. (Oh,
alright, she had a child Evelyn in NYC in 1868, husband was Vincent
Nicholas LeComte.)
Ol' Bab
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Ol' Bab
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name - English?
Tara -
What other scraps of information would I see if I could only
see that census entry? Sarah Lancaster Sonenie was my
g-grandmother. Got an image? Or, at least, the search terms
that found your information?
"Sarah Lancaster" sure sounds English.
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Ol' Bab
Tara wrote:
What other scraps of information would I see if I could only
see that census entry? Sarah Lancaster Sonenie was my
g-grandmother. Got an image? Or, at least, the search terms
that found your information?
"Sarah Lancaster" sure sounds English.
Remove "nospam" from address if directly replying.
Ol' Bab
Tara wrote:
I haven't got a good guess, but according to the 1880 census, her parents
were from England. Anyone out there recognize a close English surname?
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Ol' Bab
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name
I also noted a whole bunch of Internet sites in India have the
name Somani in them. Possibly a linguistic coincidence... Or
a clue.
Ol' Bab
Joe Pessarra wrote:
name Somani in them. Possibly a linguistic coincidence... Or
a clue.
Ol' Bab
Joe Pessarra wrote:
An Ellis Island search finds no Sonenie, but a pick of the first alternate
given, Somenie, finds the following: [snip]
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Tara
Re: Sonenie -Need your guesses re actual name - English?
Sending 1880 image.
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Tara -
What other scraps of information would I see if I could only see that
census entry? Sarah Lancaster Sonenie was my g-grandmother. Got an
image? Or, at least, the search terms that found your information?
"Sarah Lancaster" sure sounds English.
Remove "nospam" from address if directly replying.
Ol' Bab
Tara wrote:
I haven't got a good guess, but according to the 1880 census, her parents
were from England. Anyone out there recognize a close English surname?