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Patscga

OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Patscga » 17 okt 2004 22:31:52

I told you all about my computer crash after SP 2. I formated and reinstalled
the operating system, now discover that the disk can no longer be completely
defragmented because of too many lost clusters and/or sectors. Obviously I
need a new drive. Can I have the operating system reinstalled from the old
hard drive to the new one, or must I start all over again?
Any help appreciated.
Pat

Mick Gurling

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Mick Gurling » 17 okt 2004 23:48:25

"Patscga" <patscga@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041017163152.17053.00001606@mb-m26.aol.com...
I told you all about my computer crash after SP 2. I formated and
reinstalled
the operating system, now discover that the disk can no longer be
completely
defragmented because of too many lost clusters and/or sectors. Obviously
I
need a new drive. Can I have the operating system reinstalled from the
old
hard drive to the new one, or must I start all over again?
Any help appreciated.
Pat
Whatever you attempt to do, Identify critical data and at least back that

up, if not everything on there. Make this your first action.

Install new disc as slave.

Copy everything from master to slave. If your system allows DOS prompt and
the use of Diskcopy - perfect, otherwise copy it in windows safe mode. Do
NOTHING else while the copy is taking place.

Now if needed an OS reinstall/repair will recover your data.

--
Mick G CT-USA

Researching:
Gorbals: Bryan, McDonald
Hereford: James, South, Yarranton.
St Giles in the Fields: Barnett, Bryan, Cleary, Gurling, Holland, Ing,
Yarranton.
Southwark: Quinton, Richards.
Stafford/Salop Belliston, Boycott, Yorke

Repost in soc.genealogy.methods to get comments from everyone who disagrees
with my method.

David J Grimshaw

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av David J Grimshaw » 18 okt 2004 06:03:26

Patscga wrote:
I told you all about my computer crash after SP 2. I formated and reinstalled
the operating system, now discover that the disk can no longer be completely
defragmented because of too many lost clusters and/or sectors. Obviously I
need a new drive. Can I have the operating system reinstalled from the old
hard drive to the new one, or must I start all over again?
Any help appreciated.
Pat
Hi Pat,

There is nothing to stop you doing this.
Backup your data,address book and faviorates first.
Personally I would rather start a-fresh that way no corrupted
information ends up on the new Hard Drive.
Then import your address book, favoirates and data from your trusty
backup critical information CD/s.

Dave Hinz

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Dave Hinz » 18 okt 2004 16:46:35

On 17 Oct 2004 20:31:52 GMT, Patscga <patscga@aol.com> wrote:
I told you all about my computer crash after SP 2. I formated and reinstalled
the operating system, now discover that the disk can no longer be completely
defragmented because of too many lost clusters and/or sectors. Obviously I
need a new drive. Can I have the operating system reinstalled from the old
hard drive to the new one, or must I start all over again?

Buy new, bigger drive. Use that as "master", will be called C:
Change the jumper on your existing drive to "slave", it will be called D:
All of your data that's there now will still be there, but on D: rather
than C: - you can delete the corrupt windows XP installation from D: once you
have everything up and running if you want.

If your drive is going south (it sounds like it is) it would be most wise
to copy everything on D: into a folder on C: so you don't lose what's left
when your drive finally dies completely. Once they start going south, you
may have very little further warning before it's completely trashed.

Dave Hinz

Ron Martell

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Ron Martell » 19 okt 2004 21:11:04

patscga@aol.com (Patscga) wrote:

I told you all about my computer crash after SP 2. I formated and reinstalled
the operating system, now discover that the disk can no longer be completely
defragmented because of too many lost clusters and/or sectors. Obviously I
need a new drive. Can I have the operating system reinstalled from the old
hard drive to the new one, or must I start all over again?
Any help appreciated.
Pat

Most new hard drives come with a utility disk that includes a disk
copying utility, or the hard drive manufacturer will have one that is
available for free download from their web site.

Install both drives in the computer, preferably with the old drive as
master on the primary IDE (where it now is) and the new drive
temporarily connected as master on the secondary IDE. Best idea is to
disconnect the CDROM drive (which is normally on the secondary IDE)
and use that data cable and power lead for the new hard drive.

Doing it this way avoids having to reset the jumpers on the old hard
drive (many drives use a different jumper configuration for "stand
alone hard drive" and for "master drive with slave present") and on
the new hard drive.

Use the disk copying utility, which will usually run from a
self-booting diskette, and copy the old drive to the new drive.

After the copying has finished remove the old hard drive and install
the new one in its place. Reconnect the CDROM drive and the computer
should be ready to use.

Do not attempt to use Windows Explorer or XCOPY to copy the old drive
to the new one. It will not work.

Goodl luck



Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

Patscga

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Patscga » 20 okt 2004 20:32:53

Most new hard drives come with a utility disk that includes a disk
copying utility, or the hard drive manufacturer will have one that is
available for free download from their web site.

Install both drives in the computer, preferably with the old drive as
master on the primary IDE (where it now is) and the new drive
temporarily connected as master on the secondary IDE. Best idea is to
disconnect the CDROM drive (which is normally on the secondary IDE)
and use that data cable and power lead for the new hard drive.

Doing it this way avoids having to reset the jumpers on the old hard
drive (many drives use a different jumper configuration for "stand
alone hard drive" and for "master drive with slave present") and on
the new hard drive.

Use the disk copying utility, which will usually run from a
self-booting diskette, and copy the old drive to the new drive.

After the copying has finished remove the old hard drive and install
the new one in its place. Reconnect the CDROM drive and the computer
should be ready to use.

Do not attempt to use Windows Explorer or XCOPY to copy the old drive
to the new one. It will not work.

Goodl luck

You are very kind to reply but I didn't make myself clear. I'm an old lady and
my husband is even older and more incompetent about such things. I just want
to know what to tell the service person at the computer store what to do when I
take the computer in to have the new hard drive installed.
Pat

Dave Hinz

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Dave Hinz » 20 okt 2004 20:38:28

On 20 Oct 2004 18:32:53 GMT, Patscga <patscga@aol.com> wrote:

You are very kind to reply but I didn't make myself clear. I'm an old lady and
my husband is even older and more incompetent about such things. I just want
to know what to tell the service person at the computer store what to do when I
take the computer in to have the new hard drive installed.

"Please install my windows CD onto a new hard drive, and then copy all of
my data from the old one into a folder on the desktop of the newly installed
system".

Dave Hinz

Robert Heiling

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 20 okt 2004 20:54:55

Dave Hinz wrote:

On 20 Oct 2004 18:32:53 GMT, Patscga <patscga@aol.com> wrote:

You are very kind to reply but I didn't make myself clear. I'm an old lady and
my husband is even older and more incompetent about such things. I just want
to know what to tell the service person at the computer store what to do when I
take the computer in to have the new hard drive installed.

"Please install my windows CD onto a new hard drive, and then copy all of
my data from the old one into a folder on the desktop of the newly installed
system".

Permit me to suggest leaving out the Windows CD and the Folder part as that will lose
all software installations. Do only what I did in switching from a small drive to the
large one I have now. It's basically a copy of C:\*.* to E:\. When the copy is
complete, do a Sys E: to make it bootable. That was under Win98 and if XP changes
that, then ignore my suggestion.

Bob

singhals

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av singhals » 21 okt 2004 00:43:15

Patscga wrote:
Most new hard drives come with a utility disk that includes a disk
copying utility, or the hard drive manufacturer will have one that is
available for free download from their web site.

Install both drives in the computer, preferably with the old drive as
master on the primary IDE (where it now is) and the new drive
temporarily connected as master on the secondary IDE. Best idea is to
disconnect the CDROM drive (which is normally on the secondary IDE)
and use that data cable and power lead for the new hard drive.

Doing it this way avoids having to reset the jumpers on the old hard
drive (many drives use a different jumper configuration for "stand
alone hard drive" and for "master drive with slave present") and on
the new hard drive.

Use the disk copying utility, which will usually run from a
self-booting diskette, and copy the old drive to the new drive.

After the copying has finished remove the old hard drive and install
the new one in its place. Reconnect the CDROM drive and the computer
should be ready to use.

Do not attempt to use Windows Explorer or XCOPY to copy the old drive
to the new one. It will not work.

Goodl luck


You are very kind to reply but I didn't make myself clear. I'm an old lady and
my husband is even older and more incompetent about such things. I just want
to know what to tell the service person at the computer store what to do when I
take the computer in to have the new hard drive installed.
Pat
..


"It died. Fix it and save my data."

Cheryl

Ron Martell

Re: OT-Computer Crash

Legg inn av Ron Martell » 21 okt 2004 06:54:44

patscga@aol.com (Patscga) wrote:

You are very kind to reply but I didn't make myself clear. I'm an old lady and
my husband is even older and more incompetent about such things. I just want
to know what to tell the service person at the computer store what to do when I
take the computer in to have the new hard drive installed.
Pat

Just print my previous email and take it with you to the shop.

If the service tech cannot understand that then you need to find a
different service tech.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

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