reputable geneoligist? wanted.

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Jim.

reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Jim. » 17 okt 2004 04:29:20

I am stuck on a couple itesm in my long time geleology searches! One in
particular which i thought I would find by now - when my family came to
this country - I have it narrowed down to a year (1890). i hav their
census listings from this vountry and have their baptismal, marriage
from Prussia, but can;t find then coming here.

Anyone know a reputable service for this?

Robert Heiling

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 17 okt 2004 04:34:33

"Jim." wrote:

I am stuck on a couple itesm in my long time geleology searches! One in
particular which i thought I would find by now - when my family came to
this country - I have it narrowed down to a year (1890). i hav their
census listings from this vountry and have their baptismal, marriage
from Prussia, but can;t find then coming here.

Anyone know a reputable service for this?

Why don't you post the information that you have? Someone here will
probably come up with some answers for you.

Bob

Lesley Robertson

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 17 okt 2004 11:02:44

"Jim." <notgoingtodoit@nuhuh.org> schreef in bericht
news:notgoingtodoit-27024B.22292016102004@news.isp.giganews.com...
I am stuck on a couple itesm in my long time geleology searches! One in
particular which i thought I would find by now - when my family came to
this country - I have it narrowed down to a year (1890). i hav their
census listings from this vountry and have their baptismal, marriage
from Prussia, but can;t find then coming here.

Anyone know a reputable service for this?

Where is "here"? There's no point in suggesting someone in one part of the
world if your research involves another country.
Also, Have you looked at the passanger lists on Cyndi's List?
Lesley Robertson

Lorine McGinnis Schulze

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Lorine McGinnis Schulze » 17 okt 2004 22:14:29

On 16 Oct 2004 at 22:29, Jim. wrote:

I am stuck on a couple itesm in my long time geleology
searches! One in particular which i thought I would find by
now - when my family came to this country - I have it
narrowed down to a year (1890). i hav their census listings
from this vountry and have their baptismal, marriage from
Prussia, but can;t find then coming here.

Anyone know a reputable service for this?


Why not do it yourself? It'll be cheaper :-) If you are
looking for USA passenger lists, you're in luck.

Most ports of arrival are indexed for the time period you want so
this will make your job easier. You can order films in to a
nearby Family History Centre, or have NARA do the job (once
you have precise details)

NY isn't indexed for this time period BUT if you think NY
is the port of arrival you can use the free access (til
Oct. 29) to search for ancestors in New York Passenger
Lists, 1851-1891 at

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml

If you want to order those indexed lists for other ports of
arrival, you can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nar ... port.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link,
then find the film # you need

The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search
of the original records for a fee

You can also try Naturalization Records.

The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship
status, with notations showing the individual was an
Alien,
or had started the Naturalization process or had his final
papers. The year of immigration is also shown. 1920 also
nicely provides a year of naturalization.

You can read more about the value of census records in
your
search for an immigrant ancestor at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml

There are great clues in the 1870 census too!
If your ancestor has a check mark in the column "Male
Citizens of the
United States of twenty-one years of age and upwards" you
have a clue that
naturalization took place before 1870 :-)

To find out what questions were asked on various census
records
see
http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tQuestions.html

There is an explanation and Resource Guide to
Naturalization
Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/

There are also many links to searchable online
naturalization records at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/

Choose your state of interest from the list at the bottom
of the page then click on ONLINE records.

Lorine

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/fil ... york.shtml
NARA & FHC film numbers for NY passenger lists after 1820

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny.shtml
Passenger Lists to New York all years

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchnyships.shtml
Search Engine for online Internet Passenger Lists to NY

Jim.

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Jim. » 18 okt 2004 03:01:43

In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml

Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more film at the
local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade and i know nothing more
now than when i first narrowed the dates down.

singhals

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av singhals » 18 okt 2004 15:04:26

Jim. wrote:

In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:


http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml


Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more film at the
local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade and i know nothing more
now than when i first narrowed the dates down.


How many variant spellings of the surname have you tried? How many
different given name possibilities have you tried? What year were they
naturalized, and what if anything does the Declaration of Intent tell
you about their arrival?

I spent 20 years looking for a person who was right where she should
have been but the handwriting made a t look like a b and the indexers
used the b. OTOH, the copy of another passenger record I have doesn't
match my notes on where the name was on the one I saw 6 years earlier
and couldn't copy.

Cheryl

Lorine McGinnis Schulze

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Lorine McGinnis Schulze » 18 okt 2004 16:47:46

On 17 Oct 2004 at 21:01, Jim. wrote:

In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml

Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all
that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more
film at the local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade
and i know nothing more now than when i first narrowed the
dates down.


That's a lot of ships lists to search for the port of New
York for one year. Since NY isn't indexed for the time
period you want, I thought using the indexed online lists
now available would help.

I do have other suggestions - first a question though. You
say you narrowed the dates down, but how did you do this?
If it was census records, be careful. The year of
immigration and naturalization are the most MISremembered
years of alll. So always add a year or two on either side.

Why not give the list the names and some details (dates of
birth would help) that you are looking for? Many of us love
a good puzzle and would probably help. :-)

Next, if you have truly searched every single list to every
single port of arrival to the USA (sorry to sound sceptical
but that is one HUGE task!) in that time period, then you
may be looking at Canadian arrivals. Many immigrants to the
USA came through Canada because it was so much cheaper

Unfortunately the records for Canada before 1925 are not
indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact
date of arrival.

There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records
for this unindexed period other than reading microfilm

The National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration
records from 1865 to 1935.

Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can find
the details at this URL

http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html


If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they
aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for
passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/fil ... 1865.shtml

If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships
passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to
Canada after 1865 are freely available at

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp05.shtml

You can also try TheShipsList.com at
http://www.theshipslist.com/ They have been indexing
arrivals from Newspapers and have many passenger lists
online

The Ontario Archives has just put a new database online -
an index to the assisted immigration registers created by
the Toronto Emigrant Office between 1865 and 1883.

The registers are a chronological listing of those new
immigrants who were assisted by the government to travel
to many different destinations across southern Ontario.
Over 29,000 entries have been transcribed from the
registers.

http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm

Lorine

-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze

* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists)
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/
* Naturalization Records
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
* Images of Ships Lists
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/

otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Jim.

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Jim. » 18 okt 2004 22:45:06

In article <mb6dnd1Thc3HIu7cRVn-1A@rcn.net>,
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:

Jim. wrote:

In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:


http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml


Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more film at the
local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade and i know nothing more
now than when i first narrowed the dates down.


How many variant spellings of the surname have you tried? How many
different given name possibilities have you tried? What year were they
naturalized, and what if anything does the Declaration of Intent tell
you about their arrival?

I spent 20 years looking for a person who was right where she should
have been but the handwriting made a t look like a b and the indexers
used the b. OTOH, the copy of another passenger record I have doesn't
match my notes on where the name was on the one I saw 6 years earlier
and couldn't copy.

Cheryl


OK, I appreciate the help and suggestions - I have tried many varients,
soundex, computer searches, film searches, etc., over 10 years worth.I
am not a novice nor am I a name collector.

My question which I thought was a simple one as all I have asked for is
any name of a reliable genealogy researcher.

Jim.

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Jim. » 19 okt 2004 03:44:52

Thank you for all the assistance - some are new and some I've tried
multiple times. I know they did not come via Canada but through the east
coast.

L Covey

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av L Covey » 19 okt 2004 16:19:14

Jim. wrote:
In article <mb6dnd1Thc3HIu7cRVn-1A@rcn.net>,
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:


Jim. wrote:


In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:



http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml


Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more film at the
local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade and i know nothing more
now than when i first narrowed the dates down.


How many variant spellings of the surname have you tried? How many
different given name possibilities have you tried? What year were they
naturalized, and what if anything does the Declaration of Intent tell
you about their arrival?

I spent 20 years looking for a person who was right where she should
have been but the handwriting made a t look like a b and the indexers
used the b. OTOH, the copy of another passenger record I have doesn't
match my notes on where the name was on the one I saw 6 years earlier
and couldn't copy.

Cheryl



OK, I appreciate the help and suggestions - I have tried many varients,
soundex, computer searches, film searches, etc., over 10 years worth.I
am not a novice nor am I a name collector.

My question which I thought was a simple one as all I have asked for is
any name of a reliable genealogy researcher.

If you have a nearby historical society, you might give them a call for
a recommendation.

LC

singhals

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av singhals » 19 okt 2004 17:06:03

Jim. wrote:

In article <mb6dnd1Thc3HIu7cRVn-1A@rcn.net>,
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:


Jim. wrote:


In article <41727E6A.14614.6A6F8A1@localhost>,
otg@csolve.net ("Lorine McGinnis Schulze") wrote:



http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ancestry/free.shtml


Thank you for the suggestions - but - I have exhausted all that I can do.

I've searched the various free sites, I've gone though more film at the
local LDS, I've done it all over the last decade and i know nothing more
now than when i first narrowed the dates down.


How many variant spellings of the surname have you tried? How many
different given name possibilities have you tried? What year were they
naturalized, and what if anything does the Declaration of Intent tell
you about their arrival?

I spent 20 years looking for a person who was right where she should
have been but the handwriting made a t look like a b and the indexers
used the b. OTOH, the copy of another passenger record I have doesn't
match my notes on where the name was on the one I saw 6 years earlier
and couldn't copy.

Cheryl



OK, I appreciate the help and suggestions - I have tried many varients,
soundex, computer searches, film searches, etc., over 10 years worth.I
am not a novice nor am I a name collector.

My question which I thought was a simple one as all I have asked for is
any name of a reliable genealogy researcher.


notgoingtodoit@nuhuh.org is not a valid e-dress.

Visit http://www.apgen.org or http://www.familysearch.org where they maintain lists of
reliable researchers.

Lorine McGinnis Schulze

Re: reputable geneoligist? wanted.

Legg inn av Lorine McGinnis Schulze » 20 okt 2004 19:36:32

On 19 Oct 2004 at 11:06, singhals wrote:

My question which I thought was a simple one as all I have
asked for is any name of a reliable genealogy researcher.


Gee Cheryl I kind of consider you and I (and lots of others
on this list) reliable and reputable genealogy researchers!
Just because we do it for free doesn't negate our help does
it?

I noticed that notgoingtodoit@nuhuh.org hasn't posted his
names for us to help -- and I'm not convinced he's
exhausted all the leads given him -- but I sure do love
the irony of his email address, and the fact that it isn't
valid. <g>








-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze

* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists)
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/
* Naturalization Records
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
* Images of Ships Lists
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/

otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

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