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Paul McHugh

Family Trees

Legg inn av Paul McHugh » 26 sep 2004 05:45:51

Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody having
an interest in any of these.
Regards Paul McHugh

Marc Hillman

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av Marc Hillman » 26 sep 2004 07:28:41

It's such a vague query that I doubt you'll get any useful response. You are
going to have to supply a little more detail.

Could I suggest the best way to further your research is to make available
what you know, so that other researchers with similar interests can find
you. Submit your GEDCOM file to Rootsweb
(http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/) and Gencircles
(http://www.gencircles.com/) for starters. Both are free and you can
remove/modify your data at at any time. This is a greatly more efficient way
of finding connections, particularly Gencircles which does a cross match
against all other submissions for you.

I have Chapman and Hughes in my tree, but with such a vague query it's a lot
of work to respond, with low probablity of success, so most won't respond.
Either make a more detailed query, or put your data online so others can
find you. All my research (including a few Chapman's) is on my web pages, so
help yourself.

Delete "REMOVE" to reply direct.
_______________________________________
Marc Hillman, Melbourne, Australia
web: http://users.bigpond.net.au/mhillman/

"Paul McHugh" <mchugh@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:cj5e1i$us9$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody
having an interest in any of these.
Regards Paul McHugh


Lesley Robertson

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av Lesley Robertson » 26 sep 2004 10:43:55

"Paul McHugh" <mchugh@ihug.com.au> schreef in bericht
news:cj5e1i$us9$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody
having an interest in any of these.
Regards Paul McHugh

You are more likely to get useful contacts if you specify who, when and

where - specific individuals, roughly when they were around, and the country
(and preferrably the county, town, village or whatever). It's a big word out
there, and these names are not especially rare. For example, Mason and
Chapman are trade-related names with lots of unrelated familites carrying
them. McHugh and Hughes bot mean "son of Hugh", and there's a lot of them
around....
Have you checked the GOONS pages to see whether anyone's doing -name studies
on any of them?
Lesley Robertson

CWatters

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av CWatters » 26 sep 2004 18:22:49

"Paul McHugh" <mchugh@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:cj5e1i$us9$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody
having
an interest in any of these.

Country?

Mick Gurling

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av Mick Gurling » 26 sep 2004 21:08:37

"Paul McHugh" <mchugh@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:cj5e1i$us9$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody
having
an interest in any of these.
Regards Paul McHugh


And I aaume this would be 3rd century, Outer Mongolia?

--
Mick G CT-USA

Researching:
Gorbals: Bryan, McDonald
Hereford: James, South, Yarranton.
St Giles in the Fields: Barnett, Bryan, Cleary, Gurling, Holland, Ing,
Yarranton.
Southwark: Quinton, Richards.
Stafford/Salop Belliston, Boycott, Yorke

Steve Hayes

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 27 sep 2004 04:29:49

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:45:51 +1000, "Paul McHugh" <mchugh@ihug.com.au> wrote:

Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody having
an interest in any of these.

Simply putting surnames without any dates or places is not a particularly
useful way of announcing your research interests.

A better way to do it is in the form of a Tiny Tafel.

TINY TAFEL INFORMATION

compiled by Steve Hayes, with acknowledgements to Christopher Long

EXACTLY WHAT IS A TINY TAFEL?

A Tiny Tafel is a condensed list of the surnames you aere researching, with
information about the place and date of each line where it begins and ends,
and an indication of your level of interest in that line.

In a Tiny Tafel, an entry is made for each family line that is in the
Ahnentafel Chart. It does not contain any personal details of those ancestors.
Instead, it lists basic data about each family line - more specifically, a
surname and then the years and places of the earliest and most recent persons.
When looking for someone who's research might cross with your own, it would
not be immediately helpful to be told all of the specifics of a list of per-
sons. But, if you were told "I have research on the COLLINS family from 1700
to 1986, starting in England and ending in South Carolina" you would be able
to immediately decide if there is a possibility of your lines crossing. This
is the idea behind a Tiny Tafel.

Tiny Tafels have a rigid format. This allows computers to more easily read and
compare them. If you deviate from that format, it is very likely that your
Tiny Tafel will not be able to be processed by matching programs such as the
Tiny Tafel Editor and the Tafel Matching System.

It is possible to create a Tiny Tafel using a word processor or a text editor
(such as Windows notepad), but you need to know the specification and follow
it exactly.

This is why a special TT editor is useful, as it automatically checks for the
correct format.

If anyone would like a copy of the Tiny Tafel Editor, a shareware program by
Chris Long, please e-mail me at hayesstw@yahoo.com and ask for it. I will send
it by e-mail attachment as a .zip file.

WHY MAKE A TINY TAFEL?

Think of it as a snapshot of what you are researching. At a glance, a person
can immediately see your research and be able to tell you if any of your lines
look like they might meet with their own. If they look promising, you both may
benefit from sharing your research.

Plus, there are ways to automate the process of comparing Tiny Tafels. The TT
Editor program can be set to run fuzzy or exact matches on names,and places.


SAMPLE OF A TINY TAFEL

=========== SAMPLE TT BEGINS =============================
N Ronald Hickman
A Villa Devereux
A Route Orange
A St Brelade
A Jersey JE3 8GP
A British Channel Islands
T (0534) 43822
F Family History System (C:FAMILY .NAM)
R No modem, but will answer snail mail
R queries
Z 40 Tiny Tafel Editor v2.2 --- This TT may be freely distributed!
A350 1760*1760*ADAME\Cape Colony/Cape Colony
A536 1860:1982:ANDERTON\Natal, South Africa/Natal, South Africa
B340 1930.1951:BATAILLE\Natal, south Africa/UNKNOWN
B552 1770*1953*BENINGFIELD\London, England/Durban, South Africa
B552 1802 1802 BENNINGFIELD\Whitechapel, London/Whitechapel, London
B632 1782*1800 BREEDSCHOE\Cape Town/Cape Town
B632 1755*1755*BREITSCHUH\Eisleben, Germany/Eisleben, Germany
B650 1940.1985:BRIAN\Chelmsford, Essex, ENG/Chelsmford, Essex, ENG
B652 1829.1955:BRINK\Cape Town, South Africa/South Africa
B655 1822*1866*BUEHRMANN\Amsterdam, Nederland/Ermelo, Transvaal
B652 1940.1940:BURMEISTER\South Africa/South Africa
B622 1881.1881:BURROUGHES\Holt, Norfolk, England/Holt, Norfolk, England
B622 1919.1919:BURROUGHS\Pretoria, South Africa/Pretoria, South Africa
C500 1942.1942:CAINE\Dundee, South Africa/Dundee, South Africa
C516 1935.1967:CHAMBERLAIN\Natal, South Africa/UNKNOWN
C430 1849.1882:CHILD\UK/UK
D000 1883.1965:DEE\London, England/Durban, South Africa
D146 1965.1973:DEVILLIERS\Pretoria, South Africa/Pretoria, South Africa
D623 1916.1948:DURSTON\Plymouth, Devon, ENG/Durban, South Africa
E452 1773*1773:ELLINGTON\London, England/London, England
F450 1780*1825*FLAMME\Twiste, Hesse-Nassau/Cape Town, South Africa
G431 1931*1931 GOLDBOLD\Umtata, South Africa/Umtata, South Africa
H200 1868.1943:HAWKE\Natal, South Africa/Natal, South Africa
H255 1797*1966*HICKMAN\England/Nazeing, Essex, ENG
L162 1930.1930:LIVERSAGE\Natal, South Africa/Natal, South Africa
L000 1903.1974:LOWE\Pietermaritzburg/Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
L320 1910.1954:LUDIK\South Africa/South Africa
M624 1907.1948:MARSHALL\Port Elizabeth, South Africa/South Africa
M260 1935.1958:MCRAE\Natal, South Africa/UNKNOWN
M460 1868.1961:MILLER\Kwelegha, E Cape, South Africa/Durban, South Africa
N345 1826*1900:NEETHLING\Worcester, Cape Colony/UNKNOWN
P456 1914.1945*PALMER\Pretoria, South Africa/Pretoria, South Africa
P560 1888.1888.PIENAAR\South Africa/South Africa
R534 1964.1970:RANDALL\Pietermaritzburg, South Africa/Johannesburg, RSA
S363 1861.1894.STEWARD\South Africa/South Africa
T250 1896.1926:THESEN\Knysna, south Africa/Knysna, RSA
V536 1943.1946:VANDERPOEL\South Africa/South Africa
V526 1900.1963:VONSORGENFREI\South Africa/South Africa
W425 1905.1963:WILSON-YELVERTON\Natal, RSA/Natal, South Africa
W623 1803.1803.WRIGHT\London, England/London, England
W 01 Nov 1995
============ SAMPLE TT ENDS ===================================

Some notes on the structure:

N Ronald Hickman <-- Name of person
A Villa Devereux <-- Snail mail address
A Route Orange
A St Brelade
A Jersey JE3 8GP
A British Channel Islands
T (0534) 43822 <-- phone number
F Family History System (C:FAMILY .NAM) <-- genealogy software used
R No modem, but will answer snail mail
R queries
S <-- for e-mail addresses etc
Z 40 Tiny Tafel Editor v2.2 --- This TT may be freely distributed!

Note that each of these "header" lines is preceded by a field letter: N for
name, A for address, T for phone, S for electronic mail service (BBS,
CompuServe, E-mail address etc).

The last header field, Z, shows that it is the end of the header, and gives
the number of lines that follow, and, optionally, the software used to edit
the Tiny Tafel.

Then follow the lines of the Tafel proper:

D000 1883.1965:DEE\London, England/Durban, South Africa
D146 1965.1973:DEVILLIERS\Pretoria, South Africa/Pretoria, South Africa
D623 1916.1948:DURSTON\Plymouth, Devon, ENG/Durban, South Africa
E452 1773*1773:ELLINGTON\London, England/London, England

The first four characters are the SOUNEX code of the surname.
Space
Earliest date of Birth
Interest level (* = high, : = moderate; . = low, blank = none)
Latest date of birth
Interest level
Surname
Earliest place of birth, preceded by \
Latest place of birth, preceded by /

The interest level following the earliest year is usually taken as the
interest in ANCESTORS of that surname.

The interest level following the latest date of birth is usually taken as the
interest level in DESCENDANTS of that surname.

HINTS ON DRAWING UP A TINY TAFEL

When you draw up your Tiny Tafel(s), here are some things to bear in mind:

1. Include the date

If your genealogy program generates a Tiny Tafel, many dates may be left blank
or be shown as 0000. Edit them to give a rough guess for the earliest and
latest year of birth. A blank date will not help the matching system. A guess
could at least get the century right. MOST MATCHING SYSTEMS IGNORE ENTRIES
WITH NO DATES!

2. Include the place

Many Tiny Tafels have a blank or "unknown" for the place field. This is of
little use to other researchers. If you don't know anything else about the
place, at least put the country. If your family travelled to many places, you
may put in several surname lines to indicate some of the places. The dates
should then relate to the family's association with those places. If a family
emigrated from England to South Africa, for example, in the "South Africa"
line you would put the date of the first and last members born there, not the
date of the earliest ancestor born in England.

DON'T FORGET THE COUNTRY! This seems to be a common failing with people in the
USA who have compiled Tiny Tafels!

One of the weaknesses of the Tiny Tafel system has been the lack of a
thesaurus for place names. I suggest a good way of working around it is to use
the abbreviations found in the Genealogical Research Directory, which are
fairly widely known and used. For countries use USA (not U.S.A.), ENG for Eng-
land, CAN for Canada, RSA for South Africa, WLS for Wales, SCT for Scotland,
GER for Germany, BEL for Belgium, FRA for France, AUS for Australia, NZ for
New Zealand, and so on.

3. Include family lines you have data on, but are not researching

If you have information in your records on families that you are not
researching, include them in your TT anyway, but indicate only interest in
descendants, not ancestors. This will enable other researchers in those
families to contact you.

4. Be careful what e-mail address you use

If you post a Tiny Tafel on newsgroups, remember that spammers harvest
addresses from newsgroups. It can be useful to get a webmail address (such as
Yahoo or Hotmail) where spam can be automatically deleted.

5. You can use different Tiny Tafels for different purposes

While it is good to have a comprehensive Tiny Tafel for matching purposes, if
you want to post it in newsgroups, mailing lists etc, it is often better to
create a smaller one for that purpose -- if a list, for example, deals with a
single English county or US state, make a shorter list with just the names
that have connections with that place for posting there.

Above information compiled by Steve Hayes
with acknowledgements to Chris Long
E-mail: hayesstw@yahoo.com
Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/tafel.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/famhist2.htm

--
Steve Hayes
E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com
Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

Paul Andersen

Re: Family Trees

Legg inn av Paul Andersen » 27 sep 2004 14:41:31

Paul McHugh wrote:
Hello all,
I am researching the following: Cranney, Cranny, McHugh, Mason, Winter,
Hughes and Chapman names and would like to make contact with anybody having
an interest in any of these.
Regards Paul McHugh


I have a Patrick McHugh born Oct 24, 1917 and his descendants.


Paul Andersen

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