CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and (2)

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CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and (2)

Legg inn av Gjest » 27 sep 2004 01:51:44

Sunday, 26 September, 2004


Dear Rosie, and Chris (et al.),

Your professional persistence and Fine work is much appreciated! Am
planning to spend a bit more time on the subject before the other demands
of the week intrude....

I hope to get to a copy of VCH (directly or otherwise) to see what the
North Riding volumes might provide re: Thornton Bridge and Cundall - and I
see Chris has already noted that possible avenue. Chris, your putting the
VCH contents on medievalgenealogy.org.uk is a major assist.

~ I see that Cundall with Leckby is covered in Vol. I, under
Hallikeld wapentake. Interestingly, while Brafferton appears
under Bulmer wapentake, in Vol. II on the medievalgenealogy.org
site, GENUKI queries reflect Brafferton as being also in
Hallikeld. I wonder if that's an error, or perhaps an older
status that may have been adjusted in a jurisdictional change
after 1890......? Obviously accessing the 2 volumes for North
Riding will solve that riddle.

Again, thanks for all ye do. If anyone of the list might access the
VCH volumes in question before the coming weekend, any information that
would be pertinent to this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

John

____________________________________________

Chris Phillips <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk> wrote:

Presumably the gateway is broken again, so I'm taken the liberty of posting
Rosie Bevan's two contributions to soc.genealogy.medieval, which John
kindly copied to me.

Rosie's observation that there are two different Thorntons involved
certainly clears up one puzzle.

I wonder if the VCH accounts of Cundall and Thornton Bridge would shed any
light on things. Volume 1 for the North Riding has an article on Cundall
with Leckby, and volume 2 one on Brafferton (the parish containing Thornton
Bridge).

On the face of it, it does look as though the 1321/2 transaction may have
been effectively a sale to de Ledes, preserving Margaret's dower rights.

On the possible significance of Adam de Everingham having had a son named
Alexander, one thing that's not clear is whether Alexander was his son by
Margaret, or by his first wife Clarice. It does seem possible that all the
sons named in CP v 187 note g could have been sons of Clarice, as the
marriage lasted at least 13 years.

Chris Phillips

_________________________________________

Chris Phillips

Re: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 27 sep 2004 09:24:33

John P. Ravilious wrote:
I hope to get to a copy of VCH (directly or otherwise) to see what
the
North Riding volumes might provide re: Thornton Bridge and Cundall - and
I
see Chris has already noted that possible avenue. Chris, your putting
the
VCH contents on medievalgenealogy.org.uk is a major assist.

~ I see that Cundall with Leckby is covered in Vol. I, under
Hallikeld wapentake. Interestingly, while Brafferton appears
under Bulmer wapentake, in Vol. II on the medievalgenealogy.org
site, GENUKI queries reflect Brafferton as being also in
Hallikeld. I wonder if that's an error, or perhaps an older
status that may have been adjusted in a jurisdictional change
after 1890......? Obviously accessing the 2 volumes for North
Riding will solve that riddle.

That puzzled me too, although excerpts from directories on the GENUKI site
described Thornton Bridge as being in Hallikeld and Brafferton as being in
both Hallikeld and Bulmer. So if the parish is split between two wapentakes,
I suppose Thornton Bridge must be in the Hallikeld part.

Chris Phillips

Rosie Bevan

Re: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and

Legg inn av Rosie Bevan » 27 sep 2004 11:33:48

Dear All

The following are VCH entries for Thornton Bridge and Thornton on the Hill.
Unfortunately VCH North Riding of Yorks, vol.1, at my library has been
withdrawn owing to its crumbling condition, so someone else will have to
produce the Cundall entry.

THORNTON BRIDGE
"At the time of the Domesday Survey 6 carucates of land at Thornton Bridge
(Torenton, xi cent. Thorneton-super-Swale, xiii cent; Thorntonbryg, Thornton
Briggs, xvi cent.) were held of the king by Gospatric [VCH Yorks. ii, 284].
By 1284-5 the overlordship had passed to the Mowbray family [Kirkby's
Inquest (Surt. Soc.), 185]. It followed the descent of their manor of Thirsk
(q.v.).
The Mowbray fee in 1284-5 had several mesne lords. The first mesne lordship
was held in 1193 by Ranulph de Sules [Pipe. R 5 Ric I, m.5], who forfeited
it for his refusal to pay a forest fine to the king [Yorks. Inq (Yorks.
Arch. Soc.), i, 267].It was granted to Hugh de Neville, who gave it in
marriage with his daughter to a certain - de Norfolk [Ibid]. This fee in
Brafferton was said in 1284-5 to be held of Ranulph de sleys (Sules?) by
Geoffrey de Neville, of whom it was held by James de Norfolk (Norff') son of
Gilbert de Ilketeshal of Norfolk [Kirkby's Inq, (Surtees Soc.), 185; Cal.
Close, 1279-88, p.376]. At about this time James de Norfolk released to the
tenant in demesne his 9 librates of rent for a yearly payment of 2s. or one
sore sparrowhawk [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.),212] In 1285 he released to
him this rent also, so that the mesne lordship disappeared [Cal. Close,
1279-88, p.376].
The tenancy in demesne belonged from the 12th century to the family of
Deyvill. In 1193 John Deyvill gave the king 40s. that Ranulph de Sules might
be summoned to show why he deforced him of his land at Thornton Bridge
[Pipe.r. 5 Ric I, m.5]. John evidently took the side of the barons in 1215
[Rot. Lit. Claus. (Rec. Com.), i,249b], and was succeeded by his son Robert
[Feet of F. Yorks. 19 Hen III, no.51], who in 1235 quitclaimed to the Abbot
of Byland the fishery in the Swale granted by his father [Ibid]. Another
John Deyville, son of Robert, was party to in 1280 to an agreement with the
Prior of Newburgh by which the prior had the right of distraint on the land
of the Deyvills in Cundall and Leckby if they failed to pay rent for
tenements in Gargrave [Ibid 8 Edw I, no. 118; Baildon, Mon. Notes (Yorks.
Arch. Soc.), 28]. In return the prior promised to hold a service yearly at
Newburgh for the souls of John, Maud his wife, and their heirs and
ancestors. In 1284-5 John Deyvill son of John was holding was holding 6
carucates in Cundall and Thornton Bridge [Baildon op.cit 146; Kirkby's
Inquest (Surt. Soc.), 184.]. The younger John seems to have had two
daughters, Elizabeth married to Alexander de Ledes and margaret, whose
husband is not known [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.), 202]. In 1323 he
granted the manors of Cundall and Thornton Bridge to Alexander de Leeds and
Elizabeth, and gave notice to his tenants that their services were due to
Alexander [Hist. MSSS. Com. Rep. v, App. i, 332]. Twelve years later both
manors were in the possession of Boniface de Leeds, probably son of
Alexander. He granted to Alexander his son and Margaret his wife two parts
of the manors of Thornton and Cundall, and the reversion of the third part,
which was held at the time by Adam de Everingham and his wife as her dower
[Feet of F. Yorks. 8 Edw III, no.2].
Alexander and Margaret de Leeds had a daughter and heiress Elizabeth
[Wrottesley, Ped. from the Plea R. 104], who married as her first husband
Ralph de Nevill, a younger son of Ralph Lord Nevill of Raby. He succeeded to
the manors held by Alexander de Leeds and became the founder of the family
known as the Nevills of Thornton Bridge."
Source: VCH Yorkshire North Riding, v.2 p.101


"THORNTON-ON-THE-HILL (Thorrenton near Ulveston, xiii cent.) came with the
rest of this district into the hands of Roger Mowbray, and was held of him
and of his descendants as of their manor of Thirsk. [Chan. Inqp.m. 1 Edw III
(Ist nos., no. 87; (ser.2), xxxviii, 40].
The tenants of the manor from the 12th century onwards were the family of
Dayvill or Davidvilla [Ibid 5 Edw III (2nd nos.), no. 96]. In 1275 John
Dayvill was holding the manor, and was heavily in debt to the Jews [Yorks.
Inq (Yorks. Arch. Soc.) i, 160]. The most valuable part of his property in
Thornton-on-the-Hill was his mill [Ibid. Henry II granted one oak yearly
from the forest of galtres for the repair of this mill (Chan. Inq. p.m. 5
Edw III, 2nd nos, no.96; Cal. Close, 1330-3, p.507], which was worth £8
13s.4d. The demesne land was worth £1 17s. and the demesne messuages 10s.
One of his creditors must have been the Peter Byset (or 'le Taburner) who in
1276 agreed that John might re-enter upon his manor here on payment of 578
marks [Cal. Close R., 1272-9, pp. 402, 428]. Before 1307 the manor had been
leased to Isabel de Vesci for her life [Cal.Pat. 1307-13, p. 35; Kirkby's
Inq. (Surt. Soc.), 323]. She was still holding it in 1322, when he conveyed
it to John Ellerker, senior [Feet of F. Yorks. 5 Edw III, no. 11]. In 1328
John de Ellerker seems to have distrained on Isabel to get possession of the
manor [De Banco R. Mich. 2 Edw III, m.163]. She died soon afterwards,
however, [Cal. Close, 1330-3, p.507] and in 1331 Robert Dayvill, son of John
quitclaimed his right also to John of Ellerker [Feet of F. Yorks. 5 Edw III,
no. 11]."
Source: VCH Yorkshire North Riding, v.2 p. 20

As an added bonus the following is a 1275 Yorkshire inquisition into the
extent and the income of John Deiville lands in order to pay his debts owed
to the Jews, from William Brown, 'Yorkshire Inquisitions of the Reigns of
Henry III and Edward I'. Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1910. p.159-160.

"JOHN DE EYVILLE. * A Jewry debtor.
Writ dated at Westminster, 27 May, 3rd year (1275), ordering the Justices
assigned for the custody of the Jews, that after searching their rolls and
chirographers's chests of Jewry, in the presence of Paytefain, son of
Benedict the Jew, if he wish to be present, they should cause cause to be
shown (purari) all the debts in which John de Eyville is bound to the said
Jew; also in the presence of Master Elias and Salomon son of Salomon, Jews
of London, all debts in which the same John is bound to Elyas Blunt, late a
Jew of London, which, after his death, came (it is said) to us and the said
and the said Master Elyas and Salomon, namely as well net as of penalties
(tam de claro quam de penis), and usury appertaining to those debts, and
that they should send the return made under seal, and return the writ.
Another writ dated at Westminster, 15 June, 3rd year (1275).

Extent of the lands and tenements of John de Eyville in the County of York,
made on Wednesday before the feast of S.Wilfrid, 3 Edw. (9 Oct 1275), before
Alexander de Kirketon, sheriff of the county, by William de Buscy, Marmaduke
Darel, knights, John de Neuby, Nicholas de Cneton, Gilbert de Iselbec,
Ranulf de Dalton, William son of the Clerk (fil' clerici), Hugh Ke, Michael
de Boske (?), Robert Wygot, Adam de Hoton, and John Oliver.

TORENTON ON SWALE Annual value
Demesne messuage 2s. 0d.
Demesne land, 104 acres (at 6d.) £2 12s. 0d
Meadow, 30 1/2 acres (at 2s.6d.) £3 16s. 3d.
Mill and fishery £6 13s. 4d.
Services of freemen £1 4s 4d.
Bondmen and cottars £9 19s 0 1/2d.
Underwood half a mark 6s 8d
----------------
£24 13s. 7 1/2d

THORENTON ON THE HILL
Demesne messuage 10s. 0d.
Demesne land, 74 acres (at 6d.) £1 17s. 0d
Meadow, 3 acres (at 3s.) 9s. 0d.
Service of freemen 12s. 0d.
Mill, 13 marcs £8 13s. 4d.
Bondmen and cottars £5 0s. 0d.
----------------
£17 1s. 4d.

KILBURNE
Demesne messuage 6s. 0d.
Demesne land, 57 acres (at 4d.) 19s. 0d.
Meadow, 14 acres (at 2s.) £1 8s. 0d.
Service of freemen 12s.0d.
Bondmen and cottars £4 12s. 0d.
Parks and vivaries 6s. 8d.
-------------
£7 5s 8d.

ATHELINGFLET
Demesne messuage 6s. 8d.
Demesne land, four carucates £15 0s. 0d.
Services of freemen 15s.0d.
Bondmen and cottars £10 0s. 0d.
Meadow, 16 acres (at 2s. 6d.) £2 0s. 0d.
--------------
£28 1s. 8d.
Total £77 2s. 3 1/2d.

[*] No doubt the same person as the John de Eyville who was one of the last
amongst the adherents of Simon de Montfort to yield to the royal authority.
After the disastrous battle of Evesham, he set up a fortified camp at Ely,
and issuing forth thence, plundered Lincoln and Norwich, carrying off the
jews and rich citizens for the sake of their ransoms. He was driven out of
the isle of Ely in July 1267 bt Prince Edward, and managed to escape and
join the earl of Gloucester, who was holding London against the King. he
shared in the general pacification of the kingdom, which was shortly
afterwards brought about by the enactment of the Provisions of westminster.
Some of the above-named debts very possibly arose from expenses and fines
imposed in relation to the rebellion."

Cheers

Rosie

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Subject: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and (2) Adam
de Everingham


Sunday, 26 September, 2004


Dear Rosie, and Chris (et al.),

Your professional persistence and Fine work is much appreciated! Am
planning to spend a bit more time on the subject before the other demands
of the week intrude....

I hope to get to a copy of VCH (directly or otherwise) to see what
the
North Riding volumes might provide re: Thornton Bridge and Cundall - and
I
see Chris has already noted that possible avenue. Chris, your putting
the
VCH contents on medievalgenealogy.org.uk is a major assist.

~ I see that Cundall with Leckby is covered in Vol. I, under
Hallikeld wapentake. Interestingly, while Brafferton appears
under Bulmer wapentake, in Vol. II on the medievalgenealogy.org
site, GENUKI queries reflect Brafferton as being also in
Hallikeld. I wonder if that's an error, or perhaps an older
status that may have been adjusted in a jurisdictional change
after 1890......? Obviously accessing the 2 volumes for North
Riding will solve that riddle.

Again, thanks for all ye do. If anyone of the list might access the
VCH volumes in question before the coming weekend, any information that
would be pertinent to this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

John

____________________________________________

Chris Phillips <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk> wrote:

Presumably the gateway is broken again, so I'm taken the liberty of
posting
Rosie Bevan's two contributions to soc.genealogy.medieval, which John
kindly copied to me.

Rosie's observation that there are two different Thorntons involved
certainly clears up one puzzle.

I wonder if the VCH accounts of Cundall and Thornton Bridge would shed any
light on things. Volume 1 for the North Riding has an article on Cundall
with Leckby, and volume 2 one on Brafferton (the parish containing
Thornton
Bridge).

On the face of it, it does look as though the 1321/2 transaction may have
been effectively a sale to de Ledes, preserving Margaret's dower rights.

On the possible significance of Adam de Everingham having had a son named
Alexander, one thing that's not clear is whether Alexander was his son by
Margaret, or by his first wife Clarice. It does seem possible that all the
sons named in CP v 187 note g could have been sons of Clarice, as the
marriage lasted at least 13 years.

Chris Phillips

_________________________________________


David Hepworth

Re: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and

Legg inn av David Hepworth » 28 sep 2004 15:11:31

Dear All

Following on from the various discussions about the Leeds, Thweng,
Daiville, Everingham families - I've started to map out the early
Leeds family with references - please bear with me - it's a slow
haul!!

Below is material to date - however this morning I visited Bradford
Archives to plough through Paley Baildon's unpublished notes and MS -
and have information that once transcribed may helop - much sits on
Dodsworth's unpublished materials as well as his own research, but
please bear in mind it is dated 1887!!

Assulf (Essolf)
II
Peter=Emma Lascelles
II
Thomas de Ledes=
II
William de Ledes=Amabel Adam de Ledes Robert de Ledes Gilbert de
Ledes


THOMAS DE LEDES
EYC, i, 169-170, no 201 (1175-85)
Confirmation by William Ward to house of Sinningthwaite of his
father's gift of land in Essholt. Witnesses: Ada filio Petri, Thoma
fratre ejus, Ada filio Normanni, Willelmo sacrista, Ada filio Orm,
Gilberto capellano, Ricardo capellano de Otteley, Alexandro de
Mortona.

EYC, iii, 191-2, no 1499 (1154-8)
Notification of Henry de Lascy for the soul of Robert his father and
Matilda his mother…60s worth of rent, custody of St Nicholas' hospital
etc. Witnesses Adam filio Petri et Thoma fratre suo, Willelmo de
Reinevilla et Adam filio suo, Roberto Pictavensi que dedit prefate
ecclesie unam bovatam terre in Altoftis cum pertinentiis et
aisiamentis ipsius ville, Roberto de Stapilton, Henrico Walensi, Petro
de Tou[les]tona

EYC, iii, 196, no 1505 (1160-70)
Notification by Henry de Lascy to Roger, archbishop of York, of his
gift to the monks of Pontefract of church of Kippax which Robert his
father had given on the day of the foundation. Witnesses: Ottone de
Tilli, Jordano Folioth, Ada filio Petri et Thoma fratre suo, Ada de
Reinevilla, Reinero clerico, Willelmo de Bulli, Roberto Avenel,
Ascetillo de Hardewic, Jordano de Aula, Alano Hasard et aliis.

EYC, iii, 197, no 1507 (1158-77)
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy to monks of Rievaulx of gift of Adam
son of Peter, namely Oggethwaite with the iron ore and dead wood for
smelting it near Stainborough. Witnesses Rannulfus presbiter filius
Huberti, Ricardus [Bar]bot, Helias filius Essolfi, Robertus filius
Hugonis, Willelmus elemosinarius, Robertus dispensator, Thomas filius
Petri, et Rogerus frater ejus.

EYC, iii, 200-1, no 1510, (1177-85)
Confirmation by Robert de Lascy to monks of Kirkstall of gifts of
Henry de Lascy his father, William de Reinevill, William de
Heddingley, Sampson de Alreton, Roger de Wrangebroc, Henry le Walleys
and William de Summervill. Witnesses: Galfrido Hageth, Adam de
Reinevill, Willielmo de Bulli, Burnello, Thoma filio Petri, Vione de
Longvill[ers].

EYC, iii, 214, no 1527 (1159-70)
Grant by Jordan Foliot I to monks of Pontefract of West mill of Norton
for which they shall render yearly ½ mark to the chapel of Norton.
Witnesses Willelmo Foliot, Ottone de Tilli, Osberto archidiacono tunc
dapifero Hugonis de Tilli, Willelmo de Bulli, Bertramo filio Willelmi
Fristuna, Adam de Prestuna, Thoma filio Petri, Roberto Barbo, Willelmo
de Leileya, Thoma filio Thome, Hugone de Strettuna, Henrico de Dai et
Radulfo fratre suo, Rogero Pictavensi, Adam Pictavensi, Rogero de
Suinlingtona, Roberto camerario, Roberto dispensatore, Ricardo Barbo,
Aschetillo de Lunda, Jordano de Ledestuna et fratribus, Thoma de Monte
et Michaele filio ejus, Roberto skirmisore, Fulcone Franceis, Jordano
de Rouescestre, Waltero Flandrensi, Henrico medico.

EYC, iii 216, no 1529 (1159-70)
Confirmation by Jordan Foliot II to canons of Nostell of mill at
Norton which Jordan his father had given. Witnesses Henrico de Laceio
de cujus feodo est, Osberto archidiacono, Otho de Tilli, Willelmo de
Builli, et Roberto fratre ejus, Toma filio Petri et Radulfo Filigura

EYC, iii, 216-7, no 1530 (1160-70)
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy with the consent of Robert his son, to
monks of Pontefract of west mill in Norton. Witnesses: Willelmo de
Bulli et Thoma filio Petri, Willelmo de Munbegone, Burnello dapifero
comitis de Warenne, Rogero Gros pesbitero, Hugone diacono et Henrico
de Munjai.

EYC, iii 234-5, no 1555 (1175-83)
Confirmation by Adam son of Warner (de Sutton) to monks of Pontefract
of gift made to them by William son of Roger of 3 acres in Sutton etc.
Witnesses: magister Ailbinus, Adam filius Petri, Thomas frater suus,
Robertus de Stapiltona, Petrus de Toulistona, Willelmus filius
Walding, Henricus et Otto et Robertus filii sui, Willelmus de
Michlefeld, Geraldus de Lutertona, Thomas dapifer, Willelmus frater
suus, Herebertus filius Willelmi, Henricus filius Petri, Nigellus de
Witewode…

EYC, iii, 283-4, no 1621 (1180-91)
Grant by Peter de Autrey to Philip his brother of land which Philip
holds in Hunslet. Witnesses: Paulino presbitero de Ledes, Roberto de
Gant, Anotnio de Altaripa, Willelmo filio Gamelli, Thoma filio Petri,
Radulpho de Best[on], Roberto filio ejus, Reinero filio Ade, Radulpho
filio Walteri, Philippo filio Antonii de Altaripa, Hugone de
Staint[on].

In notes "The canons released a rent of 20s and arrears of $5, which
rent the grantor's father and ancestors used to render to them from
half a carucate in Beeston and from the mill of Hunslet. John de
Beston and Alexander de Ledes were witnesses. (Dodsworth MS, viii, f.
278d). This confirms that Alexander is of Thomas' line.

EYC, iii, 287-8, no 1626 (1175-77)
Grant by Henry de Vernoil I to house of Temple of Jerusalem of 34
acres of land etc in Egborough. Witnesses: Bartranno priore de
Pontefracto et toto conventu, Jordano Foliot, Ada filio Petri, Toma
fratre ejus, Ottone de Tilli, Henrico de Waleis, Malgero de Stivetun,
Willelmo de Beleue, Sansone filio Hervi, Henrico filio Jordani Foliot,
Jordano de Ledestun',Alexandro et Johanne et Rogero de Ruhale, qui hec
concesserunt et confirmavertunt.

EYC, iii, 288, no 1627, 1175-77
Grant by Roger de Rohale to Temple of Salomon of land in Egborough and
Shirwood (Yorkshire) and Hirst. Witnesses: Ada filio Petri, Thoma
fratre suo, Alexandro de Rohale, Henrico de Vernoil, Helia de Hirst,
Johanne et Guill[elmo] hominibus meis, Guillelmo de Essex, Alano de
Reines.

EYC, iii, 289, no 1629, 1177
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy to brethren of Temple of Salomon of
land which brother Robert de Pirou acquired of the grantor's fee in
Egborough of the tenure of Henry de Vernoil, Alexander de Rohel etc.
Witnesses: Roberto de Laci filio suo et herede, Ada de Reinervil
seneschallo, Willelmo de Builli, Thoma filio Petri, Thoma de
Reinervil'.

EYC, iii, 306, no 1650 (1150-70)
Quitclaim and surrender by rod by William de Somervill I to Henry de
Lascy of land in Kiddal. Witnesses: Rogero presbitero, Willelmo
Vavasur, Willelmo de Bulli, Thoma filio Petri, Henrico Hatecrist,
Waltero Flamango, Willelmo Capun, Rogero clerico, Serlone clerico,
Alano Bucel, Willelmo Wahard, Willelmo fratre Ansgotis, Benedicto
filio Forni, Symone filio Puppe, Waltero de Tulusa.

EYC, iii, 325, no 1673 (1154-77)
Notification of Ralph son of Urselin to Roger archbishop of York of
his confirmation to Nostell of all they hld of Henry de Lascy in
Crofton. Witnesses: Willelmus presbiter, Lambertus medicus,
Stephanus filius Radulfi, Nicholaus filius Huberti ,Ansketillus de
Malnvers, Thomas filius Petri, Simon scutarius.

EYC, iii, 337-8, no 1692 (1170-85)
Grant by Thomas son of Peter (de Leeds) to monks of Fountains of wood
in Kirkheaton and ore etc… Witnesses: Paulinus de Ledes et Petrus
frater ejus, Philippus de Alta Ripa, Umfridus de Laceles, Huteredus de
Mirefeld, Gualterus de Busc, Jordanus de Hetun, Radulfus filius
Audelini, Guillelmus filius Gamelli, Robertus de Wirkel[eia] et
Ricardus frater ejus, Umfridus de Hetun et Hugo frater ejus, Umfridus
sescaldus.

From notes "Kirkheaton, including Upper Heaton was held by 2 brothers
TRE and by Gamel of Ilbert de Lacy at the Survey as 3 carucates of
land. Afterwards the entire township was held of the Lacies by Adam
son of Swane and his heirs general, the Nevills. About 1180 the
tenants of the manor were: (1) Adam son of Peter son of Assolf and
Thomas son of Peter, known as "of Leeds", his brother; (2) Jordan son
of Richard de Heaton; (3) Hugh and Uctred, the sons of Ravenkill de
Mirefeld; and were, I believe, the parents of William Withaud. There
remained 4 bovates which would represent the glebe of the church of
Kirkheaton which remained in the gift of William de Nevill, in right
of his wife Amabel, daughter and coheir of Adam son of Swane, and the
heirs general of William and Amabel until about 1282.

The gift of Thomas son of Peter was confirmed by Adam his brother,
whose death is known to have occurred early in 1185. This
circumstance establishes the downward limit of date in respect of this
charter and indicates the approximate date of several others in which
this gift is mentioned. The charter Heton n. 24 (Fountains Cartulary)
suggests that Thomas son of Peter was then dead and William his son in
possession of a fourth part of Kirkheaton. The date is 1192-1200.


EYC, iii, 339, no 1693 (1175-85)
Confirmation by Adam son of Peter to Fountains of the alms which
Thomas (de Ledes) his brother gave in Kirkheaton. Witnesses:
Radulfus de Insula, Philippus de Alta Ripa, Malgerus de Stivit[ona] et
Hugo filius ejus, Samson de Alret[on], Jordanus filius Alexandri de
Alret[on], Petrus de Alta Ripa, Petrus de Toulestuna.

EYC, iii, 339-40, no 1694 (1180-95)
Confirmation by William son of Thomas (de Ledes) to Fountains of land
which Thomas son of Peter, his father, gave them of his fee in
Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Thoma filio Petri meo padre, Roberto fratre
meo, Roberto pincerna de Ledes, Umfrido clerico de Hetun ….
EYC, iii, 340, no 1695 (1192-1200)
Grant by William son of Thomas de Ledes to Fountains of wood in
Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Turgisio abate de Kirkstal, Radulfo tunc
priore, Jordano de Hetun, Willelmo Withaut, Petro de Wirkelai, Adam de
Wirkelai, Radulfo de Birstal, Thoma persona de Hertesheved, Hugone de
Melwde.

From Notes: "The grantor released to John de Birkin, his lord, for 5
marks his whole fee in Kirkheaton. This he did:
Coram tota curia domini Rogeri de Lasci, constabularii Cestrie, apud
Pontemfractum, die Sabbati proxima post festum Sancti Benedicti
abbatis, anno regni regis Johannis xo [28 March 1209]. Hiis testibus:
Roberto Walensi tunc senescaldo, Henrico de Puteaco, Johanne de
Daivilll, Ada de Reinevill, Willelmo de Stapelton, Jordano de Sancta
Maria, Hugone de Touleston, Hugone de Stapelton, Rogero de Birkine,
Thoma de Thorenton, magistro Reimund, Hugone filio Walteri (Fountains
Cartulary, Heton no 16)

Immediately after this John de Birkin granted to Fountains the whole
fourth part of the town of Heton and whatever they had had by the gift
of Thomas son of Peter and William his son. Witnesses: Robert Waleys
then sheriff of York (1204-1209), Gerard "sanctuaries de Eboraco" and
others. (Fountains Cartulary, Heton no 17) "

EYC, iii, 341, no 1696 (1190-1210)
Feoffment by William son of Thomas de Ledes to Gilbert his brother of
a bovate in Kirkheaton to hold by doing forinsec service of that land
where 24 carucates make a knight's fee. Witnesses: Umfrido de
Laceles, Rogero de Birkin, Jordano de Hetun, Germino de Thornhyl, Ada
persona de Hetona, Ada et Roberto fratribus meis, Alano de Witelai, et
aliis.

From Notes afterwards the grantee gave this bovate to Fountains by
deed attested by John de Byrkin, Peter and Roger his brothers, Jordan
de Heton, Humphrey de Lacels and others (Fountains Cartulary, Heton,
no 19). William the son of Thomas de Ledes also gave a tillage called
Suthrode, namely the ridding which lay between the road leading from
Heton to Whitley ("Huitelei") and the brook of Lepton (Fountains,
Heton, no 22).

EYC, iii, 341-2, no 1697 (1170-85)
Grant by Walter de Busc and Edith his wife to Fountains of dead wood
etc. Walter affirms the gift by the hand of Walter le Fleming and
Edith by the hand of Diana wife of the said Walter. Witnesses:
Guillelmus presbiter de Heton, Gualterus le Flamang, Guillelmus de
Ledes, Galfridus et Johannes filii Diane, Thomas filius Petri,
Uctredus de Mirefeld, Ricardus Claviger, Rogerus de Suieheuet, Thomas
Flamang.

EYC, iii, 344-5, no 1701 (1195-1211)
Grant by Edith Whithaud, daughter of Ralph de Blythe, and William her
son to Fountains of 24 acres of land etc…which Thomas son of Peter (de
Ledes) gave…. Witnesses: Jeremias persona de Thornhill, Radulfus
clericus de Byrstall, Robertus de Lyverseg, Hugo de Suinlington, Serlo
de Hwitteleia, Umfridus de Laceles, Jordanus Tagun, Robertus de Ledes,
Adam Clynt, Adam de Crosland, Umfridus de Heton, Suanus et Serlo de
Hetun, Guillemus de Secroft, Jordanus carpentarius, Rogerus, Serlo, et
Radulfus filii ejus, Jordanus de Hetun.

EYC, iii, 346, 1703 (1180-90)
Grant by Uctred son of Ravenkill de Mirefeld to Fountains of 12
acres….which the monks had of the gift of Thomas son of Peter (son of
Assulf) in the wood of Kirkheaton…. Witnesses Paulinus de Ledes,
Petrus presbiter de Ledes, Thomas filius Petri, Gualterus le Flamang,
Gualterus de Busc, Serlo clericus de Mirefeld, Adam de Crosland,
Umferai clericus de Hetun et Hugo frater ejus, Ricardus de Wirkeleia.

EYC, iii, 347, no 1705 (1195-1215)
Grant by Jordan son of Richard de Heton to Fountains of land lying
between the ladn late of Thomas son of Peter and Laising's ridding.
Witnesses: Unfredo de Lacel[es], Jordano Tagun, Ada persona de Hetun,
Galfrido capellano de Hetun, Unfred clerico, Willelmo Wythaud.

EYC, iii, 347-8, no 1706 (1195-1211)
Grant by Jordan son of Richard de Heton, William son of Thomas de
Ledes, Adam de Mirefeld and William Withaud to Fountains of moiety of
water of Colne which belongs to Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Umfridus de
Laceles, Ricardus filius ejus, Jordanus de Rither, Robertus filius
Thore de Liverseg, Henricus filius ejus, Umfridus clericus de Heton.

EYC, iii, 355, no 1718 (1175-83)
Grant by Osbert de Bayeux to Pontefract of land in Middle Haddlesey
with native dwelling there… Witnesses: Adam de Reinevilla dapifero,
Adam filio Petri, Thoma fratre suo, Roberto filio predicti Ade,
Maugero de Stivetona et Hugone filio suo et aliis.

David Hepworth

Re: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and

Legg inn av David Hepworth » 29 sep 2004 10:15:07

Here's the complete version fo Baildon's notes under WYAS Bradford
WPB/10/37

Here are the notes from Baildon's files – I have not had chance to
check them and the Fountains and Kirkstall charters appeared in print
after Baildon's death. I will try and do the work over the coming
week – though any other input would be welcome. Please excuse the
rough nature of the notes – but this is how they appear.


West Yorkshire Archive Service Bradford (WYASB)

WPB/10/37

Genealogy of Leeds Family

1. Assolf d. 1165

1.1 Peter (de Flockton) married Emma Lascelles d. 1165

1.1.1 Adam de Birkin d. 1207

1.1.2 Thomas de Leeds married Constance de Caux elder daughter and
coheiress of Robert de Caux. Held lands in Leeds by gift of his
brother Adam/ Grant of dead wood and minerals and 12 acres of land
and wood thereon in Heton to Fountains after 1154. Confirmed by
brother Adam (Burton Monasticon Eboracense – Mon Ebor)

1.1.2.1 William de Leeds married Amabel. She was relict and
quitclaimed her dower to Fountains. Appears as "William son of Thomas
son of Peter" in grant of land in Heton to Fountains. "Son of Thomas"
in grant of lands in Heton to his lord John de Birkin in 10 John – c.
1209 (Dodsworth MS Harleian 797). Confirmed charters of Richard
Pilkington, living 13 John – 1212 – Charter to Kirkstall Abbey or
Fountains (Mon Ebor)

1.1.2.1.1 Adam de Leeds "Adam de Leedes in Seacroft" deed at end of
Henry III's reign (Whitaker, Loidis and Elmete)

1.1.2.1.1.1 "William son of Adam de Leedes" witness with Alexander de
Leeds on a charter at the end of Henry III (Loidis & Elmete). Witness
to Kirkstall charters c. 1240 – 1250. "William de Northall de Leeds"
1270; William ad Northall de Leeds (Thoresby Soc, vol iv, 51, 55, 58)

1.1.2.1.1.2 Thomas de Secroft son of Adam de Leeds, Kirkstall charter
at end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete) also witness to Kirkstall
charter November 11, 1248 (Thoresby Soc iv, 52)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1 William de Leeds (Foster's Pedigree) which is omitted in
some MS

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Roger de Leeds or "de Northall". Married Margaret
? daughter to Hornby and widow of Sir Robert Wiswich and Sir Gilbert
Keighley (knights) – Wilson MS. Relict 1340 (Harl 796). Was wife of
Roger Leeds Knight with lands in Saxtron and Waxton Woodhouse for her
term of life 30-32 Edward III – 1357-59, after to Robert and Olive
Hornby of the Dominican Convent in York subsequent to 1347 (Coll. Top.
Gen., vol iv, 77) NB Margaret Hornby who married Sir Gilbert Keighley
as her 2nd husband living as his wife 1407-8 and later.

In Kirkby's Inquest he held one Knight's Fee in Headingley and Altofts
in conjunction with the Abbot of Kirkstall and John Scott of Calverley
as "ke Leedes", also 1/8 Fee in Leeds of Robert de Everingham as "de
Northall", also 1/8 Fee in East Ardsley of the same as "de Ledes"
(Dodsworth MS Harleian 797). Witnessed charters of Richard Pilkington
as Roger de Northall 15 Edward I – 1287, ½ Knight's Fee in Heton,
Frisinghall, Armley and Sheepscar of Robert de Everingham – Aid 30
Edward I – 1302, for ½ Knight's Fee in Leeds 5/-, for 1 carucate in
Wirkelay 2/2d, 31 Edward I 1303 juryman for the wapentake of skyrack,
held 1/8 fee in Leeds, 1 carucate in Wortley and 2 carucates in Heton,
Nomina Villorum 1316 land in Saxton (Harleian 796), fines 1-6 Edward
III 1327-1337 Roger Ledes and Margaret uxor lands in Saxton and Saxton
Woodhouse, Monasticon Anglicanum Kirkstall witness to charter of John
de Calverley 17 Edward II – 1324, Loidis and Elmete witness to deed of
William Legh of Rothwell 1330-32 Thoresby Soc, vol iv, 81-82, witness
to Kirkstall charter 1325.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert (?Roger) son and heir of Sir Roger de Leeds
(Harleian 801) grant to brother Richard in 1340. Married Joan who was
a relict in 1347 when she quitclaimed rights to lands in Heton to
Fountains (Mon. Ebor)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2 Richard de Leeds living 1340 (Thores Soc iv 125 ref
brawl in Kirkgate)


1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.3 Thomas de Leeds living 1340 (as above)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.4 Robert, ? cleric living 1340 (as above)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Roger de Leeds held land in Armley late of him by
Adam de Foxton 3 Edward III – 1364 (Harl 797). Juror in Inquisition
at York 35 Edward III 1367 (Harl 802). Married Margery who had 1/3 of
More Grange in 1364 (Harl 797)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert (Foster's Visitation)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Roger de Leeds apparently a minor in 1364
(Harl 797). Paid relief for the manor of Gomershall (Feodary
Pontefract 48 Edward III – 1375)(Harl 797). Noncupative will 1398,
had rents in Burley, Castleworth and Morley; will proved 27 February
1398 (Harl 802). Query the Sir Roger buried in Leeds church (Foster's
Pedigree and will of descendant – Lady Hussye, 1594). Held land in
Cusworth (Hunter South Yorkshire. Married Lady Jane who was relict
and executrix in 1398 (Harl 802). Query that she was daughter and
heiress of Robert de Tilli (Dodsworth MS Ad Ms 24468)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William de Leeds (Harl 802) "son and heir of
Roger de Leeds, Knight". Grant of manor of Northall, Okewell and
Castleworth by William de Leeds of Ripon 2 Henry IV – 1401. Also
grant of manor of Northall with rents in Leeds and Burley by William
Thornhill pastor of the churcxh of Thornhill 8 Henry IV – 1407. Held
lands in Headingley and Burley (Pleas 1407). Held the manor of
Hornthall 3 Henry VI – 1424-5 (Thoresby Soc, ix, 19). Held 1 Knight's
Fee in Birstall, Gomersall, Popelay, Heckmondwike and Birkinshaw; ½
Fee in Leeds, Holbeck and Armgley and ½ carucate in Woodhouse 3 Henry
VI – 1424-5 (Wilson's MS). Apparently dead 1432-3osp.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Emma de Ledes – heiress of her brother
(Visitation). Married Sir Geoffrey Pigot of Clotheram.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Elizabeth – mentioned in Sir Roger's will

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Catherine – mentioned in Sir Roger's will.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Sir Randolph Pigot in possession of Northall
11 Henry VI – 1422-3 (Thoresby Soc, ix, 14)

David Hepworth

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Legg inn av David Hepworth » 29 sep 2004 10:34:13

WYAS Bradford WPD/10/37 Alexander de Leedes Knight

There is an additional section covering Alexander and this should be
read with the following two posts.

1. "Sir Alexander de Ledes Knight, a contemporary of William de Leeds
and the first Sir Roger, but no relationship discovered.

He was a witness to a Kirkstall charter with William son of Adam de
Ledes at the end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete). At Kirkby's
Inquest, he held 1 carucate in Gipton, 3 carucates in Kirkby on the
Moor. Paid 16/- for relief of 1/3 Fee in Gipton 26 Edward I (1298)
(Wilson's MS). Placita de Quo Warranto Edward I after 4th year – 1276
– Alexander de Ledes a juror. Aid 1302 paid 2/6d for 1 carucate in
Gipton. Knight's Fees, 31 Edward I – 1303 – 1 carucate in Gipton.
Grant of free warren in Kirkby on the Moor 32 Edward I – 1304 – and in
Gipton 33 Edward I – 1305 (Harleian 802). Nomina Villarium 1316 held
3 carucates in Kirkby on the Hill (? Or his son). Coroner for
Yorkshire 21 Edward I – 1293 (BL. Add MS 24836)

He married Margaret – a niece to Thomas fil. Reginald de Doncaster or
Malet. Charter early Edward I assigning his interest in Bolton on
Dearn to Alexander de Ledes and Margaret uxor (Hunter South Yorkshire)

1.1 Alexander "son of Sir Alexander de Leedes". Query grant of one
oxgang etc in Allerton and Gledhow to Kirkstall (Mon Ebor). Grant to
John de Eyville 15 Edward II (1322) (Foster's and also Hunter South
Yorkshire). Nomina Villarum joint lord of Bolton on Dearn with
Stephen de Bellew.

He married Elizabeth daughter of Sir William Darrel of Sessay,
Knight, living 1358 (see Foster's Darrel)

1.2 Ellen de Ledes (Harleian 802) married William Paytefin.

1.3 Richard – charter end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete)

1.4 Robert – as above

1.1.1 Elizabeth – daughter and heiress 33 Edward III – 1360 (Wilson's
MS and Foster's Pedigree)

1.2.1 Alexander Paytefin of Headdingley 9 Edward III 1336 (Harleian
802)



In 1404 there is a fine between Alexander de Ledes and Clemencia uxor
with reference to Saxton. ? son of Thomas de Ledes and Agnes.

WYAS Bradford – WPB/15/101

Taken from Ducatus Leodiensis (Thoresby), p. 106 the original MS in
the possession of Sir Philip Constable of Werringham.

Thomas habuit terras de Leedes ex dono fratris et vacavit se de
Leedes. Married Custanea daughter of Robert de Caux.
II
Adam de Leedes=
II
William de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Sir Roger de Leedes Knight+
II
William de Leedes married Joan, both living 6 Henry V osp.
Also
Emma who married Geoffrey Pigott. They had Ranulf Pigott 15 Henry VI,
who had Goeffrey Pigott 15 Henry VI, who had Ranulf and Thomas Pigott,
who had 3 daughters and co-heiresses.

David Hepworth

Re: CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and

Legg inn av David Hepworth » 29 sep 2004 11:17:50

Here is the genealogy from Dodsworth for Dayville with some
interesting elements

WYAS Bradford WPB/15/67

Pedigree of Deyville family based on Dodsworth MS3 fols 27b-28.
Corrected by Baildon June 1887.

Please note that the bracketed letters and numbers (eg SSS.32) relate
to the original indexing system that Dodsworth used – these represent
evidences collected and filed at this point. These MS are in the
Bodleian Library Oxford.

1 Robert Dayvill antiquers (SSS.32). Married ?

1.1 John Dayvill senior son and heir

1.1.1 Robert Dayvill son of John called the elder

1.1.2 Robert Dayville son and heir of John called the younger

1.1.2.1 John Deyvil son and heir of Robert 44 Henry III (SSS.32)

1.1.2.1.1 Dom Johannes Dayvill Lord of Egmanton (G.55) married
Margareta who also married Sir Adam de Everingham

1.1.2.1.1.1 Sir John Deyvill

1.1.2.1.1.2 William Dayville

1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Elizabeth, daughter and coheir married Alexander de
Leeds nup. 19 Edward I (G.55). She also married John Chaumont
Chevalier 32 Edward III (G.31)

1.1.2.1.1.1.2 Margareta, daughter and coheir married NN de Afford
(?Rufford)

1.1.2.1.1.1.3 Elinord married Ricardus de Eskelby

1.1.2.1.1.1.4 Agnes married John de Scharow

1.1.2.1.1.2.1 Robertus Dayvill Chevalier

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Elizabeth daughter and heiress 45 Edward III (Fine 32
Edward III with Alexandre Nevill Chevalier querentem et Radulphum de
Nevill and Elizabetham exorfem deforciants de Man. De Thornton, Gipton
and Kirkby super Moram terre in Mildby…rectis heredibus Elizabetha
(G.31)). She married (a) Ralph fil. Ralph de Nevill of Raby avenculus
of Ralph 1st Earl of Westmorland p. 154). She also married (b) Henry
Gramary as 2nd husband. She also married (c) John Dayvill, husband of
Elizabeth daughter and heiress of Alexander de Ledes (G.55).
Covenants dated 9 Edward III (G.546). John Dayvill was also married
to Margareta – "Margareta uxor John Dayvill de Egmonton 17 Edward II
(EE.III)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1 Alexander de Nevill Chevalier 42 Edward III
(G.55) married Margaret

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1John D=Margareta).1 Johanna daughter and heiress 17
Edward II and 24 Edward III (EE.112) married Adam de Everingham of
Laxton Chevalier. Alienated the manor of Egmanton to William de la
Pole Seneschal with warranty against Jane his wife and his heirs by
fine 24 Edward III (E.112)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1 Alexander de Nevill Chevalier married Katherine
who was relict 16 Richard II.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1 Alexander de Nevill 2 Henry IV married
Katherine daughter of Ralph d'Eure Chevalier 2 Henry IV

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.1 Ralph 17 Henry VI

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2 William Nevill of Thornton Knight 28 Henry
VI married Alicia

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.3 Alinora married Richard Delawar

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.4 Katherine married William Fairfax of Walton

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1 William Nevell 17 Edward IV married
Johanna fil. Christopher Boynton and Jane ux. Vid 1 Richard III (G.56)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.4.1 Thomas Fairfax 35 Henry VI (G.83)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1 William Nevell nat. ante 6 Edward IV
married Alicia

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.2 Ralph (N.17)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.3 Galfridus (N.17)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1 William Nevill miles

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Ralph Nevell of Thornton Briggs
married Anne, daughter of Sir Christopher Wardle of Guiseley Givendale
who was dead 13 Henry VIII (I.6) [Sir Christopher had an elder
daughter Joan who was coheir 2 Henry VII (G.56) et 13 Henry VIII
(I.6). She married Edwardus Musgrave and they had William Musgrave,
who had Sir Richard Musgrave Knight who was dead 11 September 1555
from IPM. He had Thomas Musgrave]

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Katherine coheiress dead 22 13
Henry VIII (I.6) married Walter Strickland (G.55)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Johanna dead 21 13 Henry VIII
(I.6) who married John Constable of Burton Constable.

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3 Clara, co heiress, dead 14 13
Henry VIII (I.6) who married Thomas Smith alias Nevell of Holt.


1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Walter Strickland

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1 NN son and heir (G.56)

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.2 Mary daughter and heir married
Francis Hornby and then NN Smith a lawyer (I.6).

1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.2.1 Thomas Smyth married Anna

David Hepworth

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Legg inn av David Hepworth » 29 sep 2004 11:29:25

WYAS Bradford WPB/9/21

Here are some miscellaneous notes without any references that Baildon
had found for the Leeds family.

M.N. [no clue as to this reference –still working on it], vol. 3

PAGE DATE NAME
37 1374 John f. Richard
38 Agnes his wife
John his son
Roger
38 1357 Eleanor widow of Richard
Roger
39 John fil Richard
Agnes and John
53 1391 Roger
72 1251 Adam f. Stephen
John fil. Alexander
Richard
73 William f. William
85 1267 Simon
89 William f. William
94 1278 Adam
Robert f. Adam
John f. Alexander
95 1278 Walter f. Agnes
Roger f. Adam
James
Hugh
Franco f. William
William
96 Simon
101 Alexander f. Alexander
102 1201 Robert
107 1275 William
108 William
109 1314 Nigel
112 1332 Alexander
113 Henry
1335 Roger
117 1354 John f. Richard
120 1382 Richard
124 1415 Richard
1414 Robert
127 1260 William f. Thomas
Richard and Joan uxor
128 William f. William
Gilbert
128 c1430 William f. Robert of Sledmere
1437 Alexander de Saxton
130 1440 John de Doncaster
132 1397 Sir Roger
134 1405 William f. of Sir Roger
136 1406 Alexander
William de la Northall de Leeds

David Hepworth

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Legg inn av David Hepworth » 30 sep 2004 11:06:22

Dear Group

Deyville Genealogy

Taken from Oscar de Ville "Deyville (or de Daiville) Origins of an
English Regional Family", Medieval Prosopography, vol 18, pp. 1-24,
1997.

I have stepped the family tree because I can't find a way of getting
Google Groups to accept JPG images. I have also ordered Dr De Ville's
PhD thesis on the Daiville family and as soon as it arrives and I've
digested it, I'll post additional details. He was tackling the family
from social and political interaction – not necessarily genealogically
driven – however it was PhD for UCL, so the standards must be
exemplary.


1. Walter I, c. 1050, adherent of count of Eu, NE Normandy; 1056,
benefactor, foundation charter of abbey St-Michel du Treport as
"Walter Barbatus de Daiville," or "Davidvilla", of Deville, held
land at Monchy, nr. Eu.

1.1 Walter II, 1060, witness with Walter I to charter of count of Eu;
reputedly at Hastings.

1.2 John, (unproven line), 1068, reputedly with count of Eu vs. Danes
on the Humber, & granted Adlingfleet, Lincs.

1.1.1 Richard, 1109-14 granted lands Nr Melton Mowbray by Nigel
d'Albini. 1130, held 1 KF at Weston-on-Trent, Notts; witness for
Mowbrays, Yorks.

1.1.1.1 Robert I, by 1129, granted 1 KF at Egmanton, Notts., by Nigel
d'Albini

1.1.1.1.1 Robert II, m. (1) NN de Stuteville; (2) Juliana de Montfort,
fl. 1203; c. 1150-86, constable of Mowbray honour; held 5KF of
Mowbray at Adlingfleet, Kilbrun, Egmanton, etc; witness to over 50
Mowbray charters and to Eu charters in Normandy; benefactor, Byland
Abbey, etc.

1.1.1.1.2 Roger, 1145, witness as Mowbray "seneschal", foundation
charter of Newburgh priory; 1 KF at South Cave, Yorks.

1.1.1.1.3 William

1.1.1.1.1.1 John I, married Maud de Percy, daughter of Agnes de Percy
and & Jocelin de Louvain; 1186-90, inherited 5 Mowbray KF; 1203,
grant to St-Michel du Treport, 1215, in rebellion vs King John;
1226, itinerant justice in north; benefactor, Newstead priory,
Notts,; fl. 1228.

1.1.1.1.1.2 Nicholas I, held Caunton, Notts; 1195, rebel with Count
John; 1212, called to arms.

1.1.1.1.2.1 William, held South Cave; married Matilda de Mowbray;
lands near Ripon, Yorks; benefactor, Fountains Abbey

1.1.1.1.3.1 Walter III held Walton, Warwickshire; steward of earl of
Chester; witnessed 30 earl of Chester charters; 1226, justice
itinerant, Warks and Leics; land also in Lincolnshire.

1.1.1.1.3.2 Robert, 1241, justice in Warks; witness to earl of Chester
charters.

1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert III married Denise Fitzwilliam of Sprotboro';
held 5 KF of Mowbray etc; tenant of Vescy iun No. Anston, Yorks;
1214, served in Poitou; 1243 called to serve in Gascony; benefactor
Byaldn, Rievaulx etc; 1251 in debt to Jews.

1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Henry, held Gargrave, Yorks; 1258, served vs Scots;
benefactor Newburgh Priory; baronial rebel; 1264 killed at
Northampton

1.1.1.1.1.1.3 William, 1258, served vs Scots; 1264, prinsoner at
Northampton.

1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Jocelin, held Deighton, Yorks; 1266-67 rebel.

1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Nicholas II, held Caunton, Notts; 1241, deputy sheriff
Notts; 1264 custos pacis Notts; benefactor Rufford Abbey.

1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Peter held South Cave; c. 1220 bailiff of Ripon.

1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Walter IV held Walton, Warks; 1253 Justice Warks. and
Leics.

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John II married (1) Maud de Audley, (2) Alice; held 5
KF of Mowbray etc; 1253 excommunicated; 1258 served vs Scots; 1257,
1260, 1263 Keeper of Forests N of Trent; 1260 called to London
Assembly; 1264 created baron; 1264 custos pacis for Yorks and keeper
of York and Scarborough castles; 1266-67 Disinherited rebel at Ely;
1270's and 80's served vs Welsh; 1285 member of king's household; d.
c. 1291-5.

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert, 1266-67 rebel with John at Ely

1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Adam, 1264 rebel held Bilburg, Yorks and Thorpe,
Notts; squire to John at Ely.

1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Roger held S. Cave; c 1220 bailiff of Ripon

1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Roger in heavy debt; surrendered Walton, Warks by 1270

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John III married (1) Agnes, (2) Margaret; 1295
under age; called "John D of Adlingfleet"; held Egmanton etc; 1299 at
Falkirk; served vs Scots; d 1325/6.

1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1 Jocelin (? Time between generations) married Sarah;
held Deighton; 1300 valettus to archbishop of York; rebel with earl
of Lancaster; executed 1322.

1.1.1.1.1.1.4.2 Robert

1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 William (unproven line)

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert IV married Margaret de Holbeach.

1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1 Jocelin

1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.2 William

1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Thomas (unproven line) married Isabella; 1315
bailiff of Ripon; 1322 custos Yorkshire; 1323 granted Bilton, Yorks.

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John IV, d. 1349/50 sp

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert, clerk; d. 1369

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Agnes [de Bilton]

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Joan [de Croft]

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.5 Katherine [de Egmanton of Fockerby]

1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.6 Elizabeth [de Kidall]

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