Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
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John Brandon
Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
In the Feb. 1927 issue of the _Proceedings of the Massachusetts
Historical Society_, Charles Banks wrote on the identity of Giles
Heale. Heale was a witness to the April 1621 will of William Mullins,
the famous Mayflower passenger. Although then among the probate
documents of the Archdeaconry of Surrey in England (Harl. MSS. 4778),
the will had certainly been written and witnessed in New England (it
is entirely in the hand of Governor John Carver of the Plymouth
Colony, except for the signatures of the other two witnesses).
Comparing the 1621 signature with the April 1652 signature on the will
of a certain Giles Heale, chirurgeon, of St. Giles-in-the-Fields,
London, Col. Banks was able to determine that this was the same
person. In the records of the London Barber Surgeons, Banks found the
1619 apprenticeship of Giles Heale to Edward Blaney, and notes that
"[i]t was then customary for surgeons to serve on passenger ships
making voyages 'beyond seas.'"
I've noticed a little further indirect evidence that Giles Heale was a
passenger on the Mayflower. Rev. Horace Hayden's _Virginia
Genealogies: A Genealogy of the Glassell Family_ (1891; reprint,
Genealogical Publishing Company, 1966), p. 55, has the following note
concerning early Healeys in Virginia:
"Mr. Stanard sends me this data: In the State Library of Va. there is
a copy of 'Ainsworth's Annotations on the Psalms,' with contemporary
inscription on the fly leaf, 'This Booke Was given unto me, Giles
Heale, Chirurgeon, by Harte [sic; ? Barte] Allerton Tailor in
Verginia, the X day of February in the yeare of our Lord 1620.'"
In the very early days of its settlement, New England was sometimes
still called "Virginia." Isaac Allerton of the Mayflower is recorded
in the Leiden records as having been a tailor from London. He had a
son named Bartholomew Allerton (the "Hart"/ Bart mentioned above ?).
The inscription quoted by Hayden definitely contains some jumbled
elements, but clearly relates to Banks' article. Perhaps Heale
recorded the data towards the end of his life when it was no longer
especially clear in his memory.
Historical Society_, Charles Banks wrote on the identity of Giles
Heale. Heale was a witness to the April 1621 will of William Mullins,
the famous Mayflower passenger. Although then among the probate
documents of the Archdeaconry of Surrey in England (Harl. MSS. 4778),
the will had certainly been written and witnessed in New England (it
is entirely in the hand of Governor John Carver of the Plymouth
Colony, except for the signatures of the other two witnesses).
Comparing the 1621 signature with the April 1652 signature on the will
of a certain Giles Heale, chirurgeon, of St. Giles-in-the-Fields,
London, Col. Banks was able to determine that this was the same
person. In the records of the London Barber Surgeons, Banks found the
1619 apprenticeship of Giles Heale to Edward Blaney, and notes that
"[i]t was then customary for surgeons to serve on passenger ships
making voyages 'beyond seas.'"
I've noticed a little further indirect evidence that Giles Heale was a
passenger on the Mayflower. Rev. Horace Hayden's _Virginia
Genealogies: A Genealogy of the Glassell Family_ (1891; reprint,
Genealogical Publishing Company, 1966), p. 55, has the following note
concerning early Healeys in Virginia:
"Mr. Stanard sends me this data: In the State Library of Va. there is
a copy of 'Ainsworth's Annotations on the Psalms,' with contemporary
inscription on the fly leaf, 'This Booke Was given unto me, Giles
Heale, Chirurgeon, by Harte [sic; ? Barte] Allerton Tailor in
Verginia, the X day of February in the yeare of our Lord 1620.'"
In the very early days of its settlement, New England was sometimes
still called "Virginia." Isaac Allerton of the Mayflower is recorded
in the Leiden records as having been a tailor from London. He had a
son named Bartholomew Allerton (the "Hart"/ Bart mentioned above ?).
The inscription quoted by Hayden definitely contains some jumbled
elements, but clearly relates to Banks' article. Perhaps Heale
recorded the data towards the end of his life when it was no longer
especially clear in his memory.
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
In article <942d5b80.0409171240.489ab824@posting.google.com>,
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote:
Interesting. This book is currently listed in the on-line catalogue of
the Library of Virginia (Special Collections, LC call no. BS 1424.A29);
surely someone can check the inscription?
Now: what is known of Mr. Heale's family and descendants?
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote:
I've noticed a little further indirect evidence that Giles Heale was a
passenger on the Mayflower. Rev. Horace Hayden's _Virginia
Genealogies: A Genealogy of the Glassell Family_ (1891; reprint,
Genealogical Publishing Company, 1966), p. 55, has the following note
concerning early Healeys in Virginia:
"Mr. Stanard sends me this data: In the State Library of Va. there is
a copy of 'Ainsworth's Annotations on the Psalms,' with contemporary
inscription on the fly leaf, 'This Booke Was given unto me, Giles
Heale, Chirurgeon, by Harte [sic; ? Barte] Allerton Tailor in
Verginia, the X day of February in the yeare of our Lord 1620.'"
In the very early days of its settlement, New England was sometimes
still called "Virginia." Isaac Allerton of the Mayflower is recorded
in the Leiden records as having been a tailor from London. He had a
son named Bartholomew Allerton (the "Hart"/ Bart mentioned above ?).
The inscription quoted by Hayden definitely contains some jumbled
elements, but clearly relates to Banks' article. Perhaps Heale
recorded the data towards the end of his life when it was no longer
especially clear in his memory.
Interesting. This book is currently listed in the on-line catalogue of
the Library of Virginia (Special Collections, LC call no. BS 1424.A29);
surely someone can check the inscription?
Now: what is known of Mr. Heale's family and descendants?
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
In article <942d5b80.0409171240.489ab824@posting.google.com>,
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote:
I suppose he cannot be considered possibly identical with the 'Ely' of
Bradford's 1651 memoir? "There were also other two seaman hired to stay
a year here in the country, William Trevor, and one Ely. But when their
time was out they both returned."
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote:
In the Feb. 1927 issue of the _Proceedings of the Massachusetts
Historical Society_, Charles Banks wrote on the identity of Giles
Heale. Heale was a witness to the April 1621 will of William Mullins,
the famous Mayflower passenger. Although then among the probate
documents of the Archdeaconry of Surrey in England (Harl. MSS. 4778),
the will had certainly been written and witnessed in New England (it
is entirely in the hand of Governor John Carver of the Plymouth
Colony, except for the signatures of the other two witnesses).
Comparing the 1621 signature with the April 1652 signature on the will
of a certain Giles Heale, chirurgeon, of St. Giles-in-the-Fields,
London, Col. Banks was able to determine that this was the same
person. In the records of the London Barber Surgeons, Banks found the
1619 apprenticeship of Giles Heale to Edward Blaney, and notes that
"[i]t was then customary for surgeons to serve on passenger ships
making voyages 'beyond seas.'"
I've noticed a little further indirect evidence that Giles Heale was a
passenger on the Mayflower....
I suppose he cannot be considered possibly identical with the 'Ely' of
Bradford's 1651 memoir? "There were also other two seaman hired to stay
a year here in the country, William Trevor, and one Ely. But when their
time was out they both returned."
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
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Martin E. Hollick
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
This is apparently old news. See
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/Genealogy/crew.php.
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote in message news:<942d5b80.0409171240.489ab824@posting.google.com>...
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/Genealogy/crew.php.
starbuck95@hotmail.com (John Brandon) wrote in message news:<942d5b80.0409171240.489ab824@posting.google.com>...
In the Feb. 1927 issue of the _Proceedings of the Massachusetts
Historical Society_, Charles Banks wrote on the identity of Giles
Heale. Heale was a witness to the April 1621 will of William Mullins,
the famous Mayflower passenger. Although then among the probate
documents of the Archdeaconry of Surrey in England (Harl. MSS. 4778),
the will had certainly been written and witnessed in New England (it
is entirely in the hand of Governor John Carver of the Plymouth
Colony, except for the signatures of the other two witnesses).
Comparing the 1621 signature with the April 1652 signature on the will
of a certain Giles Heale, chirurgeon, of St. Giles-in-the-Fields,
London, Col. Banks was able to determine that this was the same
person. In the records of the London Barber Surgeons, Banks found the
1619 apprenticeship of Giles Heale to Edward Blaney, and notes that
"[i]t was then customary for surgeons to serve on passenger ships
making voyages 'beyond seas.'"
I've noticed a little further indirect evidence that Giles Heale was a
passenger on the Mayflower. Rev. Horace Hayden's _Virginia
Genealogies: A Genealogy of the Glassell Family_ (1891; reprint,
Genealogical Publishing Company, 1966), p. 55, has the following note
concerning early Healeys in Virginia:
"Mr. Stanard sends me this data: In the State Library of Va. there is
a copy of 'Ainsworth's Annotations on the Psalms,' with contemporary
inscription on the fly leaf, 'This Booke Was given unto me, Giles
Heale, Chirurgeon, by Harte [sic; ? Barte] Allerton Tailor in
Verginia, the X day of February in the yeare of our Lord 1620.'"
In the very early days of its settlement, New England was sometimes
still called "Virginia." Isaac Allerton of the Mayflower is recorded
in the Leiden records as having been a tailor from London. He had a
son named Bartholomew Allerton (the "Hart"/ Bart mentioned above ?).
The inscription quoted by Hayden definitely contains some jumbled
elements, but clearly relates to Banks' article. Perhaps Heale
recorded the data towards the end of his life when it was no longer
especially clear in his memory.
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John Brandon
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
I suppose he cannot be considered possibly identical with the 'Ely' of
Bradford's 1651 memoir? "There were also other two seaman hired to stay
a year here in the country, William Trevor, and one Ely. But when their
time was out they both returned."
Actually, I think "Ely" would be an acceptable phonetic rendering of
"Healey" in this period. So maybe he wasn't much of a barber surgeon
and just got lumped in with the sailors!
John
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John Brandon
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
Now: what is known of Mr. Heale's family and descendants?
Col. Banks says his will mentions a wife and brother, but no children.
So I guess we won't have crowds of British folk attempting to join
the Mayflower Society --
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
In article <5d20e7f.0409172148.6f89b013@posting.google.com>,
mhollick@mac.com (Martin E. Hollick) wrote:
I had wondered about this. I still am curious about the possible Ely /
Healey identification, since the unknown seaman 'Ely' is separately
listed among the passenger pages on Caleb Johnson's site:
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/Passengers/MrEly.php
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
mhollick@mac.com (Martin E. Hollick) wrote:
I had wondered about this. I still am curious about the possible Ely /
Healey identification, since the unknown seaman 'Ely' is separately
listed among the passenger pages on Caleb Johnson's site:
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/Passengers/MrEly.php
Nat Taylor
a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/
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John Brandon
Re: Giles Heale/ Healey of the Mayflower
Darn, and here I thought I was being all original.