Who is not a descendant of Sybil de Falaise?

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Leo van de Pas

Who is not a descendant of Sybil de Falaise?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 01 sep 2004 05:33:11

Gordon Banks made me look into this lady and her descendants.
Sir Viel de Engaine, a descendant of Sybil, was a son of Sara, Lord of Colne, and her sister, Margery, is recorded in Turton's book as an ancestor of Elizabeth of York.

First, I thought, does Sara have interesting descendants?
To begin with gen-med
Ian Fettes, John Ravilious, Tim Powys-Lybbe, Brice Clagett, Brom Nichol Jr. and Gary Boyd Roberts.
Gatway ancestors descending from Sara,
Robert Abel III, Essex Beville, Margaret Brent, Col. Giles Brent, Grace Chetwode, Katherine Deighton, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Col. Thomas Ligon, Herbert Pelhan, Hon. George Percy, Colonel George Reade, Major Nicholas Sewall, Sir Grey Skipwith, Thomas Skipwith, William Strother

Others
George Washington, Audrey Hepburn, Rachel Ward, Randolph Scott, Ted Morgan, Aga Khan IV, Lord Alfred Douglas, Dame Edith Sitwell, Lady Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson, Sophie Rhys-Jones and Camilla.

Sara's sister, Margery, by being in Turton's book makes her an ancestor of Elizabeth of York, but she also has descendants on gen-med
Peter de Loriol, John Steele Gordon, Brice Clagett, John Ravillious, Brom Nichol Jr., Ian Fettes, Tim Powys-Lybbe.

Strangely, I could not find any gateway-ancestors descending from her, but she has American descendants, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge. Also, she has quite a few literary descendants : Graham Greene, Christopher Isherwood, Robert Traill Spence Lowell IV, and Ted Morgan.

Also she is an ancestor of Audrey Hepburn, Randolph Scott, Aga Khan IV, as well as
Lady Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson, Sophie Rhys-Jones and Camilla.

I hope this adds a little to the renarks of Gordon Banks.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Australia

allenk@pacbell.net

Re: Who is not a descendant of Sybil de Falaise?

Legg inn av allenk@pacbell.net » 02 sep 2004 22:08:41

Meredith B. Colket feels that the Knyvet is pretty solid. See his pamphlet
on the
ancestry of the Marburys.

K


Original Message:
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From: Gordon Banks geb@gordonbanks.com
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 12:35:57 -0700
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Who is not a descendant of Sybil de Falaise?


Probably the Marbury sisters are:

Viel Engaine
John Engaine
Joyce Engaine
Joan Huntingfield
Ralph Basset
Alianore Basset
John Knyvet
John Knyvet
Margaret Knyvet
Richard Chamberlayne
Anne Chamberlayne
Bridget Raleigh
Elizabeth Cope
Bridget Dryden
Anne & Katherine Marbury

Some question that Margaret Chamberlayne's maiden name was Knyvet, I
believe, but otherwise I think line is pretty solid.

On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 18:35, Leo van de Pas wrote:
Gordon Banks made me look into this lady and her descendants.
Sir Viel de Engaine, a descendant of Sybil, was a son of Sara, Lord of
Colne, and

her sister, Margery, is recorded in Turton's book as an ancestor of
Elizabeth of York.
First, I thought, does Sara have interesting descendants?
To begin with gen-med
Ian Fettes, John Ravilious, Tim Powys-Lybbe, Brice Clagett, Brom Nichol
Jr. and

Gary Boyd Roberts.
Gatway ancestors descending from Sara,
Robert Abel III, Essex Beville, Margaret Brent, Col. Giles Brent, Grace
Chetwode,

Katherine Deighton, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Col. Thomas Ligon, Herbert
Pelhan, Hon. George Percy, Colonel George Reade, Major Nicholas Sewall, Sir
Grey
Skipwith, Thomas Skipwith, William Strother
Others
George Washington, Audrey Hepburn, Rachel Ward, Randolph Scott, Ted
Morgan,

Aga Khan IV, Lord Alfred Douglas, Dame Edith Sitwell, Lady Diana Spencer,
Sarah
Ferguson, Sophie Rhys-Jones and Camilla.
Sara's sister, Margery, by being in Turton's book makes her an ancestor
of Elizabeth

of York, but she also has descendants on gen-med
Peter de Loriol, John Steele Gordon, Brice Clagett, John Ravillious, Brom
Nichol Jr.,

Ian Fettes, Tim Powys-Lybbe.
Strangely, I could not find any gateway-ancestors descending from her,
but she has

American descendants, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge.
Also,
she has quite a few literary descendants : Graham Greene, Christopher
Isherwood,
Robert Traill Spence Lowell IV, and Ted Morgan.
Also she is an ancestor of Audrey Hepburn, Randolph Scott, Aga Khan IV,
as well

as
Lady Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson, Sophie Rhys-Jones and Camilla.

I hope this adds a little to the renarks of Gordon Banks.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Australia


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Gjest

Re: Who is not a descendant of Sybil de Falaise?

Legg inn av Gjest » 03 sep 2004 03:42:12

In a message dated 02/09/2004 23:16:02 GMT Daylight Time,
leovdpas@netspeed.com.au writes:

and Ted Morgan.



Now Ted is an interesting person - I knew him when he was Sanche de Gramont
and was slowly metamorphosing himself into Ted Morgan, an anagram of de
Gramont. In fact I have some very funny pictures of him in my aunt's swimming pool.
I always wondered why he changed his name to Ted Morgan...nice man, pity
about his last book...
best ,
Peter

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