Descent of Thomas Jernigan from Edward I

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Descent of Thomas Jernigan from Edward I

Legg inn av Reedpcgen » 31 aug 2004 09:37:25

I just wanted to point out to members of the group that the new issue of The
Virginia Genealogist is out.

It contains an article by Neil D. Thompson tracing the ancestry of the Virginia
immigrant Thomas Jernigan back five generations to Sir John Jernegan, whose
wife Briget Drury was daughter of Sir Robert Drury, of Hawstead, Suffolk,
Speaker of the House of Commons, by Anne Calthorpe (a well known descent from
Edward I ancestral to other immigrants).

Also in the same issue is the ancestry of the Frances Baldwin, wife of (1)
Richard Townsend, (2) Richard Jones, and (3) Robert Williams, which Jones line
I believe we discussed on this forum before. Her ancestry is traced by John
Brayton through Mackworth, Hercy, Digby, Griffin, Latimer, Hastings, to Ada of
Huntingdon, and thus back to Henry I.

Also in this issue is an excellent article by Douglas Beahm on Thomas Willis,
of Lancaster County, Virginia, severing the false royal descent and documenting
the family in Virginia.

These authors are not the type to laud their own discoveries immediately over
others, so I thought these valuable additions to our knowledge should be
brought to the attention of the group, hence this post.

Gjest

Re: Descent of Thomas Jernigan from Edward I

Legg inn av Gjest » 31 aug 2004 23:47:55

I haven't seen this new issue of *The Virginia Genealogist* but I have
corresponded with John Frederick Dorman over the past year or so regarding the
ancestry of Frances Baldwin Townsend Jones Williams so I'm delighted to find
out that something has finally made it into print.

In the 1970s, a book published on the Slaughter family of Culpeper Co.,
Virginia linked Frances and her brothers, Robert and William, to the Baldwin
family of Great Stoughton (Stoughton Magna), Huntingdonshire who were recorded
in the 1613 Visitation (page 58 according to my notes). The book referred to
research done by Mr. Dorman, but nothing further was published.

Last year, in a attempt to escape from my seemingly never-ending dissertation
research in 19th and 20th century US resources, I contacted Mr. Dorman about
the claims in the Slaughter book and, based on his very kind and informative
response, I've been doing my own research into the Mackworths and Baldwins,
etc. So I'm very curious to see what's been published so far. Based on my own
research I believe there's a likely descent from William I "the Lion" of
Scotland (through the de Basyings and La Zouche family) which I'll gladly post
if anyone's interested (if it's not already in the article).

Jeff Duvall

<reedpcgen@aol.com>:

I just wanted to point out to members of the group that the new issue of The
Virginia Genealogist is out.

snip
Also in the same issue is the ancestry of the Frances Baldwin, wife of (1)
Richard Townsend, (2) Richard Jones, and (3) Robert Williams, which Jones
line
I believe we discussed on this forum before. Her ancestry is traced by John
Brayton through Mackworth, Hercy, Digby, Griffin, Latimer, Hastings, to Ada
of
Huntingdon, and thus back to Henry I.

snip

These authors are not the type to laud their own discoveries immediately
over
others, so I thought these valuable additions to our knowledge should be
brought to the attention of the group, hence this post.



Jeffery A. Duvall

Re: Descent of Thomas Jernigan from Edward I

Legg inn av Jeffery A. Duvall » 01 sep 2004 09:04:00

As I mentioned earlier today, I believe that Frances Baldwin Townsend Jones Williams is also likely to be descended from William I "the Lion" (d. 1214), King of Scotland. The descent is through her paternal grandmother Katherine Mackworth (d. aft. 1611), wife of John Baldwin (d. 1611) of Midloe and Great Staughton (or Stoughton), Rutland, England. Katherine Mackworth was the daughter of Francis Mackworth (d. 1557) of Empingham, Rutland, England and his wife Ellen Hercy, daughter of Humphrey Hercy (d. 1521) of Grove and his wife Elizabeth Digby.



Keeping in mind that I've not seen the article in the latest edition of The Virginia Genealogist, I won't try to duplicate the documentation offered to prove the link between Frances Baldwin and Francis Mackworth (d. 1557) of Empingham. I will, instead, give a brief account of why I believe there is also a descent from William I of Scotland.



On pages 243-245, VCH Rutland covers the ownership of the Manor of Empingham as it passed through marriage and inheritance from the de Normanville family to the de Basyngs/Basings family to the Mackworth family. On pages 244-245, Francis Mackworth is shown to be the son of George Mackworth (d. 1535) of Empingham (by Anne Sherard according to my own research), and the grandson of John Mackworth (d. bef. 1487), by Beatrice (whose surname is unknown, as far as I've been able to determine). John Mackworth was, in turn, the son of Henry Mackworth (d. 1487), possibly by Agnes de Sallowe (although the Mackworth lineage in Blore's history of Rutland shows Henry's wife as Ellen with no surname given). Henry Mackworth was the son of Thomas Mackworth (d. 1439) of Mackworth (in Derbyshire) and his wife Alice de Basynges/Basings (d. sometime after 1457 but before 1484) sister and eventual heir of Sir John de Basynges/Basings (ca. 1376-1445) of Empingham.



In Feb. 1998, S.J. Payling's article, "Murder, Motive and Punishment in Fifteenth-Century England: Two Gentry Case-studies" was published in the English Historical Review. I found my copy of this article online (through Google as it happens) so I don't have the vol. no. and correct pagination to provide, but can hunt it down if necessary. Anyway, one of the cases in question involves Alice (de Basynges) Mackworth and her son Henry and their eventual succession (through the murder of Sir John de Basynges' illegitimate son) to all the de Basynges properties. Payling notes that Sir John de Basynges and William, Lord Zouche of Harringworth (fl. 1439) were cousins and that Sir John's mother was, in fact, the great-aunt of the Lord Zouche in question. Turning to CP (vol. 12, pt. 2, page 942, note G) I found that Elizabeth Basing is mentioned as the daughter (along with Majory Willoughby) of Elizabeth de Ros (d. bef. 8 July 1382), widow of William, 2nd Lord Zouche of Harringwo!
rth (d. 23 April 1382). VCH Rutland (page 244) indicates that Alice Mackworth was age 50 or more at the time of her brother's death in 1445. The same source (and page) also shows that their father, another Sir John de Basynges, lived from 1341 to 1384 and that his three children were Thomas (died childless in 1400), Sir John (ca. 1376-1445) and Alice (d. sometime between 1457 and 1484).



While Payling doesn't specifically state that Alice Mackworth and Sir John de Basynges were full siblings, nothing I've found so far (including both the text and lineage in Blore and the VCH Rutland) indicates that they were anything but the children of Sir John de Basynges (ca. 1341-1384) and his sole wife Elizabeth. Assuming then that they were indeed the children of the same mother, it's a simple matter to trace Alice (de Basynges) Mackworth's descent from William I of Scotland through her mother Elizabeth de Ros on page 424 of Roberts' The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants. The line is as follows: William I (d. 1214) à Isabel of Scotland m. Robert de Ros à Sir William de Ros m. Lucy (Roberts says Lucy St. John, but I think this was discussed and dismissed on Gen-Medieval a while back) à Sir Robert de Ros m. Isabel d'Aubigny à William de Ros, 1rst Lord Ros of Helmsley m. Maud Vaux à William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of Helmsley m. Margery de Badlesmere à Elizabeth de Ros m. !
William la Zouche, 2nd Lord Zouche of Haryngworth.



It's rather late, as I'm typing this, so I hope you'll forgive me if I've rambled a bit.



Jeff Duvall

Martin E. Hollick

Re: Descent of Thomas Jernigan from Edward I

Legg inn av Martin E. Hollick » 02 sep 2004 00:42:15

reedpcgen@aol.com (Reedpcgen) wrote in message news:<20040831033725.10984.00000006@mb-m14.aol.com>...
I just wanted to point out to members of the group that the new issue of The
Virginia Genealogist is out.

It contains an article by Neil D. Thompson tracing the ancestry of the Virginia
immigrant Thomas Jernigan back five generations to Sir John Jernegan, whose
wife Briget Drury was daughter of Sir Robert Drury, of Hawstead, Suffolk,
Speaker of the House of Commons, by Anne Calthorpe (a well known descent from
Edward I ancestral to other immigrants).

I just got the article from the library. Actually it only gives the
immigrant Thomas and his father and grandfather. One is directed in
the text to the Visitation of Suffolk 1561 to bridge the gap from
George Jernegan and Ela (Spelman) [in the article] and Sir John
Jernegan and Bridget (Drury). So there's actually two things to look
up for the entire line before one can use the information in PA3,
which ends with Sir Robert Drury and Anne Calthorpe.

Sadly too, the article only identifies the parents of the immigrant
Thomas and does nothing in delineating the first or second generation
of his descendants.

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