3 (4?) søsken Hansen Tørum til USA

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3 (4?) søsken Hansen Tørum til USA

Legg inn av dn22991 » 27 nov 2008 19:52:22

Jeg søker opplysninger om tre eller kanskje fire søsken Hansen Tørum som reiste til USA:

1. Albrigt Magnus Hansen Tørum f. 16.08.1875. Han reiste til Amerika i 1898. I USA kalte han seg for Albert Torum. Han døde i Seattle 20.02.1931 (Washington State Death Records). Jeg har ingen opplysninger om han stiftet familie der.

2. Karoline Hedvik Hansen Tørum f. 26.02.1883. Hun reiste til Amerika (Hammond, Washington) i 1901. I emigrasjonsprotkollen kalles hun Lina Tørum. Billetten er betalt i Amerika, så hun reiser sikkert til slektninger.

3. Johan Kristian Hansen Tørum f. 27.10.1885. Her er jeg usikker på om han virkelig utvandret. Jeg finner han imidlertid ikke i offentlige registre i Norge etter 1900.

4. Olaf Meier Hansen Tørum f. 12.09.1888. Han reiste til Amerika i 1913. Reisemålet er Seattle, Washington. Han kom for øvrig tilbake til Norge på et senere tidspunkt, uten at jeg har klart å finne når.

Kan noen hjelpe meg videre slik at jeg kan finne dem og eventuelle etterkommere i Amerika?

mvh
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 27 nov 2008 19:55:16

1920 United States Federal Census
about Albert A Torum
Name: Albert A Torum
[Albert A Torrens]
Home in 1920: Seattle, King, Washington
Age: 40 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Clara S
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1898
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 336
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert A Torum 40
Clara S Torum 28

No children here
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 27 nov 2008 19:58:46

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Olaf Torum
City: Not Stated
County: Whatcom
State: Washington
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1888
Race: White
Roll: 1992178
DraftBoard: 0

He is single
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Name: Albert Torum
Death date: 20 Feb 1931
Death place: Seattle, King, Washington
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document): White
Age at death: 55 years 6 months 5 days
Estimated birth year:
Birth date: 16 Aug 1875
Birth place: Norway
Marital status: Divorced
Spouse name:
Father name: Albert Torum
Father birth place: Norway
Mother name: Margaret Carlson
Mother birth place: Norway
Occupation: Rest. Man. 605 1/2 Pike
Street address: Orpheum/Hotel
Residence:
Cemetery name: Crown Hill
Burial place:
Burial date: 23 Feb 1931
Additional relatives: X
Film number: 2022805
Digital GS number: 4221545
Image number: 1593
Reference number: 632
Collection: Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960
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Legg inn av dn19075 » 27 nov 2008 22:25:47

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Name: Olaf Torum
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1924
Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Country: Norway
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian

Ship Name: Athenia
Port of Arrival: Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland

Olaf reiser sammen med sin kone Linda, 31 år. Siste bosted i Norge var Bjugn. Nærmeste slektning i Norge er Olafs mor Margrethe Tørum, Oksvald.

De skal til Olafts bror Albrigt Torum (det sto først tante Anne (?) Andersen i Stanwood WA, men det er overstrøket og erstattet med broren). Reisemål er Stanwood WA. Ser ut som de har tenkt å ta permanent opphold i USA.

- hanne line -

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Legg inn av dn22991 » 28 nov 2008 00:25:55

To Margit:
Thank you again for help to find missed persons in USA. I feel now that I have all necessary information abt Albert Torum. But where did Karoline go?

Til Hanne Line:
Jeg stoler nok litt for mye på lokale gårdshistorier. I min kilde om Olaf Tørum står det at Olaf kom tilbake til Norge, giftet seg med Linda og bosatte seg på Charlottenlund i Trondheim. Ja, ja.
Når jeg nå søker i emigrasjonsprotokollene, finner jeg at det nygifte paret reiste over til Amerika i oktober 1924. Det skulle vært moro å finne ut om de hadde noen etterkommere etter seg i USA.

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 28 nov 2008 02:54:44

Lena/Lina came here also to America???:

http://www.immigrantships.net/1903proje ... 31201.html
http://maxpages.com/ourlostfamily/List_3

SS United States from NARA Film T715 Roll 418
Departing from Christiania, Norway and Copenhagen Denmark to New York December 1, 1903
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Legg inn av dn22991 » 28 nov 2008 19:53:56

This is just remarkable. Lina Tørum is registered in the Emigration protokol for Trondheim in 1901.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=33&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=95970&merk=95970#ovre

The only explanation I have is that this is another Lina Torum who came to America in 1903. The surname Tørum is very ordinary in the Bjugn area.

Is it possible to find a birth date for this Lina Torum who arrived in 1903? :o

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 28 nov 2008 20:02:23

I think I have solved it. see the attachment on Line 26
It is Lina Sorum and someone mistook it for Torum. :D :shock:
She is going to Chicago to see her uncle, Charles Sorum?
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.
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Legg inn av dn22991 » 28 nov 2008 23:42:07

Well done! Now we have eliminated Lina Sørum in this case. But however, I cant find Lina Tørums arrival in America in 1901. I have searched in database of Ellis Island, but cant find her. Is it possible that she had arrived in another harbour? :roll:

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2008 16:34:33

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Lina Torcom
Arrival Date: Jul 1901
Age: 18 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: New England
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Albt Torum
Last Residence: Dronthie
Microfilm Roll Number: 46
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Legg inn av dn22991 » 29 nov 2008 23:19:02

Hi Margit, you are unbeliveable!

Now I know much more abt Lina Tørum. She was going to her brother Albert who I think lived in Stanwood at this time.

It seems that several of my relatives lived in the area Stanwood, Snohomish, King County or Seattle. I wonder, are Stanwood and Snohomish a town? My map of state Washingon is not so detailed which I could wish.

Is it possible for example to contakt a local libreary, and there get help for more information?

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 30 nov 2008 03:26:53

Stanwood is a town, located in Snohomish County of Washington State. Seattle is a town in King County of Washington State.

Here are some sites to check out:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wasnohom/
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wasigs/index.htm
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wasno ... ldings.htm

REMEMBER:
You can ask for FREE obituaries or dødsannonse
These tell a little history of the peoples life and lists their children usually.
You can go here:

http://www.secstate.wa.gov/library/ask_form.aspx

Give them all death information you find and they will check newspapers for you. If you have trouble understanding, let me know and I will be happy to request an obit for you.

Any other questions, just ask. :wink:

This is the first obituary you should request. It takes a week or a little more.

Name: John P. Stene
Death date: 19 Mar 1920
Death place: Stanwood, Snohomish, Washington
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document):
Age at death: 46 years 1 month 7 days
Estimated birth year: 1874
Birth date:
Birth place:
Marital status:
Spouse name:
Father name: Paul Stene
Father birth place:
Mother name: Joda Grut
Mother birth place:
Occupation:
Street address:
Residence:
Cemetery name:
Burial place:
Burial date:
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1992756
Digital GS number: 4220986
Image number: 1021
Reference number: 109
Collection: Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960

(I think a VERY GOOD prospect for Karoline/Lina's husband)
It is hard to find women sometimes.

Give them all the information. :roll:
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 30 nov 2008 03:40:27

Here is another one to ask for an obituary for.

Name: Lena Stene
Date of Death: 8 Jun 1951
Place of Death: Snohomish
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Gender: Female
Certificate: 11370
:wink:
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Legg inn av dn22991 » 30 nov 2008 20:31:35

Hi Margit!

Thank you for all informations I have got in this case. I have ordered obituarys for the persons you have recomended, then I have to see what is coming up.

Tormod :D

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