Origin of The Nevilles of Raby

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Origin of The Nevilles of Raby

Legg inn av John Watson » 15 feb 2008 01:29:03

Hi all,

The earliest ancestor of the Nevilles of Raby, Durham who can be
traced with any degree of certainty is a certain Maldred, who
according to Clay, was born about the year 1050 [1]. In 1132, his
grandson, Dolfin, son of Uhtred rented 'Staindropshire' - which
includes Raby - from the Prior and Convent of Durham for 4 pounds a
year. [2]

Round, in his essay on the origins of the Nevilles of Raby, suggests
that because Dolfin son of Uhtred, when doing homage to the Prior of
Durham for Staindrop, reserved his homage to the kings of England and
of Scotland, as well as the Bishop of Durham, he was, no doubt, a man
of consequence, and was probably of high Northumbrian birth. [3]

That's where certainty ends and speculation begins, as far as I can
see.

Does anyone know of any primary evidence that has surfaced since Clay
wrote Early Yorkshire Families which can identify the father of
Maldred?

[1] Charles T. Clay, Early Yorkshire Families, Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series, Vol 135, (1973) p. 67
[2] Surtees Society, Vol 58, Feodarium Prioratus Dunelmensis, (Durham:
1872) p. 56
[3] John H. Round, Feudal England, (London: 1895) pp. 488-90

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Re: Origin of The Nevilles of Raby

Legg inn av Gjest » 16 feb 2008 19:59:02

On Feb 14, 7:29 pm, John Watson <WatsonJo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

The earliest ancestor of the Nevilles of Raby, Durham who can be
traced with any degree of certainty is a certain Maldred, who
according to Clay, was born about the year 1050 [1]. In 1132, his
grandson, Dolfin, son of Uhtred rented 'Staindropshire' - which
includes Raby - from the Prior and Convent of Durham for 4 pounds a
year. [2]

Round, in his essay on the origins of the Nevilles of Raby, suggests
that because Dolfin son of Uhtred, when doing homage to the Prior of
Durham for Staindrop, reserved his homage to the kings of England and
of Scotland, as well as the Bishop of Durham, he was, no doubt, a man
of consequence, and was probably of high Northumbrian birth. [3]

That's where certainty ends and speculation begins, as far as I can
see.

Does anyone know of any primary evidence that has surfaced since Clay
wrote Early Yorkshire Families which can identify the father of
Maldred?

[1] Charles T. Clay, Early Yorkshire Families, Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series, Vol 135, (1973) p. 67
[2] Surtees Society, Vol 58, Feodarium Prioratus Dunelmensis, (Durham:
1872) p. 56
[3] John H. Round, Feudal England, (London: 1895) pp. 488-90


Dear John

I have the following article;

From New England Historic Genealogical Society(NEHGS) Jul 1952 pg
186-190

THE ORIGIN OF NEVILL OF RABY
Contributed by G. Andrews Moriarty, A.M,, LL.B., F.S.A.
Communicated by the Committee on English and Foreign Research

In it Moriarty presents his case for the following line.

1. Meldred son of Crinan fl ca. 1030+
2. Meldred occ. ca. 1084
3. Uchtred d.-1128/9
4. Dolfin b. ca. 1100-1110. occ.1128/9, 1131,d. ca. 1136
5. Meldred b. ca. 1135 wit. ca. 1140, d. ca. 1183 m. ca. 1170/3 NN dau
of John de Stuteville of Long Lawford, co. War.
6. Robert Fitz Meldred b. ca 1173/40 d. ca 1242

I have the article as .gif images. If you want to send me your email
address I can send the images to you. If not, send your snail mail
address & I'll mail you a copy.

I also have an article by George Washington, F.S.A. "Strickland and
Neville" read at Carlisle, April 15th, 1961, in which he ties "Meldred
of Winlaton (from Moriarty's article) to Leitholme, then the descent
of the Nevilles--not to mention that of the first thanes of Leitholme
and Great Strickland--from the great house of Dunbar (which was a
branch of the ancient royal line of Scotland) need no longer be
doubted!"

This article is in .psd format. I'll be glad to sent it also.

Regards,

Dix Preston

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