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Michelle, Sabrina's Mom

problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Michelle, Sabrina's Mom » 11 jan 2008 20:50:58

Hi,

I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to
finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right thing
is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother from the
early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie ticket
stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are attached to the
pages with small staples, some of the photos that were attached at one time
have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets and newspaper
clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach this. I already
scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved the images in tif
format.. But now what should I do with the loose pictures and other items,
Should I reattach them and then scan or should I take all of the pictures
off the pages and then reattach everything in a way that will preserve them
safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film for everything but I am not
sure.. I want to keep everything in the original scrapbook, but the staples
are issue. I can see what seems to be rust spots forming around them. Please
help. I want to finish this and put it away in a safe place.

Thank you,

Michelle

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Michelle, Sabrina's Mom » 12 jan 2008 13:58:22

"Michelle, Sabrina's Mom" <michelles.other.email@nospamgmail.com> wrote in
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Hi,

I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to
finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right
thing is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother
from the early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie
ticket stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are
attached to the pages with small staples, some of the photos that were
attached at one time have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets
and newspaper clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach
this. I already scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved
the images in tif format.. But now what should I do with the loose
pictures and other items, Should I reattach them and then scan or should I
take all of the pictures off the pages and then reattach everything in a
way that will preserve them safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film
for everything but I am not sure.. I want to keep everything in the
original scrapbook, but the staples are issue. I can see what seems to be
rust spots forming around them. Please help. I want to finish this and put
it away in a safe place.

Thank you,

Michelle
: ( I can upload a picture of one of the scrapbook pages so you can see

what I am dealing with.

Huntersglenn

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 12 jan 2008 20:16:29

Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was
kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when
the book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things
that were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings).

There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type
page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than
trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My
concern is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples
would migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program
that would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a
good way to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the
pages separately from the items that had been attached to them.

You might also want to check to see if there are any scrapbooking or
paper preservation newsgroups - the people there might have better
solutions for your problem.

Good luck,
Cathy

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom wrote:
Hi,

I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to
finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right thing
is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother from the
early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie ticket
stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are attached to the
pages with small staples, some of the photos that were attached at one time
have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets and newspaper
clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach this. I already
scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved the images in tif
format.. But now what should I do with the loose pictures and other items,
Should I reattach them and then scan or should I take all of the pictures
off the pages and then reattach everything in a way that will preserve them
safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film for everything but I am not
sure.. I want to keep everything in the original scrapbook, but the staples
are issue. I can see what seems to be rust spots forming around them. Please
help. I want to finish this and put it away in a safe place.

Thank you,

Michelle


Michelle, Sabrina's Mom

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Michelle, Sabrina's Mom » 13 jan 2008 13:07:41

"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message
news:wm8ij.9275$R55.553@newsfe13.lga...
Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was
kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when the
book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things that
were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings).

There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type
page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than
trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My concern
is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples would
migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program that
would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a good way
to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the pages
separately from the items that had been attached to them.

You might also want to check to see if there are any scrapbooking or paper
preservation newsgroups - the people there might have better solutions for
your problem.

Good luck,
Cathy

Thanks Cathy : )

Mark Roy

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Mark Roy » 14 jan 2008 02:54:51

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom wrote:
Hi,

I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to
finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right thing
is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother from the
early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie ticket
stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are attached to the
pages with small staples, some of the photos that were attached at one time
have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets and newspaper
clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach this. I already
scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved the images in tif
format.. But now what should I do with the loose pictures and other items,
Should I reattach them and then scan or should I take all of the pictures
off the pages and then reattach everything in a way that will preserve them
safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film for everything but I am not
sure.. I want to keep everything in the original scrapbook, but the staples
are issue. I can see what seems to be rust spots forming around them. Please
help. I want to finish this and put it away in a safe place.

Thank you,

Michelle



A relevant article just posted to the Ancestry.com blog:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=2191

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Michelle, Sabrina's Mom » 14 jan 2008 14:35:23

"Mark Roy" <xxx@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Michelle, Sabrina's Mom wrote:
Hi,

I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to
finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right
thing is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother
from the early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie
ticket stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are
attached to the pages with small staples, some of the photos that were
attached at one time have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets
and newspaper clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach
this. I already scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved
the images in tif format.. But now what should I do with the loose
pictures and other items, Should I reattach them and then scan or should
I take all of the pictures off the pages and then reattach everything in
a way that will preserve them safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film
for everything but I am not sure.. I want to keep everything in the
original scrapbook, but the staples are issue. I can see what seems to
be rust spots forming around them. Please help. I want to finish this and
put it away in a safe place.

Thank you,

Michelle

A relevant article just posted to the Ancestry.com blog:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=2191

Thanks Mark, that is a fantastic article. The author describes the same type
of book that I am dealing with.

: ) Michelle

Allen Prunty

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Allen Prunty » 19 jan 2008 09:33:32

Huntersglenn wrote:

Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was
kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when
the book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things
that were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings).

That's one way to preserve them forever... is to scan them. Newsprint
paper is very fragile though... and it is known to fade. Best thing is
to mount it on acid free archival paper.

There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type
page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than
trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My
concern is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples
would migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program
that would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a
good way to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the
pages separately from the items that had been attached to them.

I would re-scrapbook with copies and try to preserve the originals. The
rust on the staples is Oxidation and it is very harmful to everything in
there. I would try to get rid of the staples using needle tweezers to
gently pry and remove them from the paper. I would then remount the
originals on acid free paper with archival mounting tape. Do not use
liquid adhesives because they can literally lift the print of the old paper.

Allen

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom

Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project

Legg inn av Michelle, Sabrina's Mom » 19 jan 2008 15:00:36

"Allen Prunty" <nospam@alprunty.com> wrote in message
news:zBikj.13252$OC1.369@newsfe20.lga...
Huntersglenn wrote:

Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was
kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when the
book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things that
were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings).

That's one way to preserve them forever... is to scan them. Newsprint
paper is very fragile though... and it is known to fade. Best thing is to
mount it on acid free archival paper.

There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type
page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than
trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My concern
is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples would
migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program that
would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a good way
to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the pages
separately from the items that had been attached to them.

I would re-scrapbook with copies and try to preserve the originals. The
rust on the staples is Oxidation and it is very harmful to everything in
there. I would try to get rid of the staples using needle tweezers to
gently pry and remove them from the paper. I would then remount the
originals on acid free paper with archival mounting tape. Do not use
liquid adhesives because they can literally lift the print of the old
paper.

Allen

Thanks Allen. I started to remove everything from the book with tweezers the
other day. I will have to look for some archival mounting tape. I didn't
know it existed. Your suggestions have been very helpful.

Michelle

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