Botelers of Ireland:The First Generations Part III

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Good Morning,

So we have Theobald II Pincerna of Ireland(Boteler) dead in 1230, The
wardship of his heir, Theobald III, and custody of his lands is
granted to Richard, Earl of Cornwall (CDI No. 1849) and Purchase in
1232 from Richard Earl of Cornwall by Richard de Burgo(CDI no. 1962)
of whom Theobald III marries his daughter,Margery.

It has been surmised, as Theobald II is required to do homage to the
King in 1244(CDI 2686) that he has attained his majority and livery of
his lands and hence a birth of 1223. This may or may not be
true..regarding his birth date.

Theobald III mar. Margery de Burgo

Children:
1. Theobald IV
2. Elizabeth
in weeton with preese there was certain land called
Quinschalcishurede, a mill and others for the dower of Margery widodw
of Theobald for dower see(Close Rolls,64,m.19)

Theobald III is dead 1248 and Peter de Bermingham has custody of at
least his lands in Ireland(CDI No.2686).
In 1251 John fitzGeoffrey has custody of these same lands and it is
his daughter, Joan fitzJohn fitz Geoffrey, that Theobald IV,
marries(CDI Nos. 3056,3101)

Theobald Boteler mar. Joan fitzJohn

Children:
1. Theobald V dies in 1299
2. Edmund Justicar of Ireland 1302
3. Thomas Knt.
4. Richard
5. Gilbert
6. Nicholas
7. James
8. Maud
9. Joan
See Nicholas #6 above, 1287 in Rawcliffe, (Joan, widow of Theobald IV
claimed dower against Nicholas son of Theobald le Boteler who has
custodee of the land.....(De Banco R.66,m 27d)
Edmund, 1302 ,held same lands in Marton as Theobold as did John, son
of Edmund, The Earl of Ormonde 1346 the same, in 1355 Eleanor, The
Countess of Ormonde leased to John Boteler the hamlet of little Marton
for 10 years(Dods. MSS.cxxxi,fol.40,Survey of 1346,and others etc.)

To be continued NOTE. William Boteler of Warrington held 2/3 the lands
of Theobald IV in wardship and custodee of Yorkshire and Lancaster by
writ(Cal. Pat Rolls,p.226) 2/28 1286-92, it may be that this is the
date that Theobald V came to his majority?
Theobald Iv Boteler holds in land:

Weeton 12 bovates incl. towns, hamlets, etc, Marton, little marton,
hoole little, hoole
free farms 12 bovates
Borough of Preston,
Mythorp
Treales 24 bovates
Swarbrick 4 bovates
Wharles 7score and 4 acres
Merton 24 bovates
Lenholm in Marton
Greenhalgh 1 bovate
Bradekirke and Mowbrick
Ayykesko and Exssco(FIELD names)
Routhclive
manor of Schepele
Ellington 5 bovates
lands in Ireland

To be continued with the Botelers of Rawcliffe

Best Regards,
Emmett L. Butler

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On Jan 6, 9:01 am, [email protected] wrote:

Good Morning,

So we have Theobald II Pincerna of Ireland(Boteler) dead in 1230, The
wardship of his heir, Theobald III, and custody of his lands is
granted to Richard, Earl of Cornwall (CDI No. 1849) and Purchase in
1232 from Richard Earl of Cornwall by Richard de Burgo(CDI no. 1962)
of whom Theobald III marries his daughter,Margery.

It has been surmised, as Theobald II is required to do  homage to the
King in 1244(CDI 2686) that he has attained his majority and livery of
his lands and hence a birth of 1223. This may or may not be
true..regarding his birth date.

Theobald III mar. Margery de Burgo

Children:
1. Theobald IV
2. Elizabeth
in weeton with preese there was certain land called
Quinschalcishurede, a mill and others for the dower of Margery widodw
of Theobald for dower see(Close Rolls,64,m.19)

Theobald III is dead 1248 and Peter de Bermingham has custody of at
least his lands in Ireland(CDI No.2686).
In 1251 John fitzGeoffrey has custody of these same lands and it is
his daughter, Joan fitzJohn fitz Geoffrey, that Theobald IV,
marries(CDI Nos. 3056,3101)

Theobald Boteler mar. Joan fitzJohn

Children:
1. Theobald V dies in 1299
2. Edmund Justicar of Ireland 1302
3. Thomas Knt.
4. Richard
5. Gilbert
6. Nicholas
7. James
8. Maud
9. Joan
See Nicholas #6 above, 1287 in Rawcliffe, (Joan, widow of Theobald IV
claimed dower against Nicholas son of Theobald le Boteler who has
custodee of the land.....(De Banco R.66,m 27d)
Edmund, 1302 ,held same lands in Marton as Theobold as did John, son
of Edmund, The Earl of Ormonde 1346 the same, in 1355 Eleanor, The
Countess of Ormonde leased to John Boteler the hamlet of little Marton
for 10 years(Dods. MSS.cxxxi,fol.40,Survey of 1346,and others etc.)

To be continued NOTE. William Boteler of Warrington held 2/3 the lands
of Theobald IV in wardship and custodee of Yorkshire and Lancaster by
writ(Cal. Pat Rolls,p.226) 2/28 1286-92, it may be that this is the
date that Theobald V came to his majority?
Theobald Iv Boteler holds in land:

Weeton 12 bovates incl. towns, hamlets, etc, Marton, little marton,
hoole little, hoole
free farms 12 bovates
Borough of Preston,
Mythorp
Treales 24 bovates
Swarbrick 4 bovates
Wharles 7score and 4 acres
Merton 24 bovates
Lenholm in Marton
Greenhalgh 1 bovate
Bradekirke and Mowbrick
Ayykesko and Exssco(FIELD names)
Routhclive
manor of Schepele
Ellington 5 bovates
lands in Ireland

To be continued with the Botelers of Rawcliffe

Best Regards,
Emmett L. Butler

Thank you for this Butler information. I had corresponded with the
late Lord Dunboyne for some time to learn about my Butler branch
(Drom, which derives from Dunboyne). It is especially good to see
information on the female members of the family, as most charts I have
seen have mainly tracked the men. I was surprised to see that the Weem-
Oversley line is actually attached to them, as this seemed to have
been an open question at the time of Lord Dunboyne's death (I also
have descents from them). One quesetion: do you know anything about
Catherine Butler of Boelick, specifically the wife of Edmund, 7th Lord
Dunboyne? Her father was Richard. If you are tracking any post-
medieval lines, let me know. Thanks, Bronwen Edwards