Ralph WORSLEY will proved 28 January 1574

[YvonnePurdy]

From the PCC will of Ralph WORSLEY, proved 28 January 1574, there are several people mentioned, some of whom I
can transcribe. If anyone can correct, add details of the families etc., I would be very grateful. I'm

trying to find out whether the John WORSLEY, son of Sethe WORSLEY, is one and the same who married Ann FELL/S
in Bidston on 9 February 1588/89.

There are some very coincidental names of my families in his will, i.e. Sherlocke, Johnes (Jones), Hurleston,
also he held lands in Birkenhead, Wolton, Claughton, Bidston, Wallasey, Tranmere, Co. Chester.

From 'googling', Ralph WORSLEY of Worsley, Lancashire purchased the lands and rights of Birkenhead Priory in
1545 for the sum of £568-11-6d. He is said to be a 'good servant of the King'.

In 1572 all rights to Thomas Powell of Denbigh who married Ralph Worsley's eldest daughter.

Ralph WORSLEY mentions:

'my servant' Thomas SHERLOCK
Hughe WORSLEY son of my brother Ottewell WORSLEY
daughter (Avys) wife of Thomas VAWDREY
my cosen Richard BYRKENHED
my friend Roger HURLESTON
cosen James WORSLEY of Pemberton, gentleman
Margarett WORSLEY widow late wife of Alexander WORSLEY dec'd.
my frende Alexander RIGBY
sonn in lawe (Francis) SHERINGTON
Henry JOHNES Sergeant at arms
cosen Mr BARLOW
cosen Thomas BROWNE
cosen John BANYSTER
cosen Henry BIRKENHED
cosen Thomas BYRKENHED
James WORSLEY bastard brother to my cosyn Alexander WORSLEY
friend John WYRMINGTON of the Temple, gent.
Rafe WORSLEY, son of my cosen Alexander WORSLEY deceased
John WORSLEY, son of my brother Sethe WORSLEY deceased
Johane (my late wife)
Alice, Katheryn, Avis, daughters
cosen Richard HURLESTON
cosen Hughe WORSLEY, son of my brother (Tuell?)
Katheryn wife of (Francis) SHERINGTON, bastard daughter of me, the said Rafe WORSLEY
daughter Alice, wife of Thomas POWELL
Katheryn, wife of Thomas ENTCHET

Regards, Yvonne Purdy (nee Sherlock)

[wjhonson]

I'm afraid I can't offer much.

Interesting name you mentioned Ottewell Worsley.
There was a Sir Ottewell Worsley, Knt of Calais who died 24 Mar 1470
(fully a hundred years before the time period in which you're
interested). He had at least one daughter Margaret Worsley who
married Sir Adrian Whetehill, esq Comptroller of Calais and their son
was that Sir Richard Whetehill who married Elizabeth Muston.

This line descends to hundreds of living people (if not thousands),
but doesn't really help you except to point out that wherever this odd
name Ottewell came from, it wasn't necessarily this man's mother's
maiden name.

Will Johnson

[Louise Staley]

Hello all & merry Christmas,

I did not see the post that this replied to so perhaps this has been
answered there.

Would this Ottewell Worsley also have been the father of an Anne
Worsley who married John Gainsford (bef. 1430 - 1491) who in turn were
the parents of (at least) Sir John Gainsford (abt. 1469 - 1540),
Ottewell Gainsford & George Gainsford?

Other than his fatherhood of Anne, I know nothing of Ottewell,
including that he was knighted. Can you enlighten me as to any sources
for Ottewell?

Louise Staley

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:08:50 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <[email protected]>
wrote:

I'm afraid I can't offer much.

Interesting name you mentioned Ottewell Worsley.
There was a Sir Ottewell Worsley, Knt of Calais who died 24 Mar 1470
(fully a hundred years before the time period in which you're
interested). He had at least one daughter Margaret Worsley who
married Sir Adrian Whetehill, esq Comptroller of Calais and their son
was that Sir Richard Whetehill who married Elizabeth Muston.

This line descends to hundreds of living people (if not thousands),
but doesn't really help you except to point out that wherever this odd
name Ottewell came from, it wasn't necessarily this man's mother's
maiden name.

Will Johnson

[Louise Staley]

Hello all & merry Christmas,

I did not see the post that this replied to so perhaps this has been
answered there.

Would this Ottewell Worsley also have been the father of an Anne
Worsley who married John Gainsford (bef. 1430 - 1491) who in turn were
the parents of (at least) Sir John Gainsford (abt. 1469 - 1540),
Ottewell Gainsford & George Gainsford?

Other than his fatherhood of Anne, I know nothing of Ottewell,
including that he was knighted. Can you enlighten me as to any sources
for Ottewell?

Louise Staley


On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:08:50 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <[email protected]>
wrote:

I'm afraid I can't offer much.

Interesting name you mentioned Ottewell Worsley.
There was a Sir Ottewell Worsley, Knt of Calais who died 24 Mar 1470
(fully a hundred years before the time period in which you're
interested). He had at least one daughter Margaret Worsley who
married Sir Adrian Whetehill, esq Comptroller of Calais and their son
was that Sir Richard Whetehill who married Elizabeth Muston.

This line descends to hundreds of living people (if not thousands),
but doesn't really help you except to point out that wherever this odd
name Ottewell came from, it wasn't necessarily this man's mother's
maiden name.

Will Johnson

[wjhonson]

We need to first review the source for the connection you propose,
which is

http://books.google.com/books?id=Hi8EAA ... +gainsford

Vis Surrey, Gainesford

[Louise Staley]

I hadn't actually seen that Visitation until you brought it to the
group's attention. I have now been jolted into actually looking at my
sources.

It is the will of Walter Culpepper (d. 1514) who mentions his cousins
Otewell and George: "To my cosyn Otewell Gaynesford my blak damask
cote. To my cosyn George Gaynesford my damask cote of white and
grene."

Only Otewell and George are mentioned in the will so no confirmation
of John and Nicholas as sons from this source.

This will is transcribed at the Culpeper site
http://tinyurl.com/2dvqg5

The common ancestor is John Gainsford (d. 7 Jul 1460)

Descendants of John Gainsford
-----------------------------
1-John Gainsford d. 7 Jul 1460
+Anne Wakehurst
|--2-John Gainsford b. Bef 1430, d. 1491, Guilford, SUR, ENG
| +Anne Worsley
| |--3-Sir John Gainsford Knt. b. Abt 1469, Crowhurst, Sry, Eng, d. 28 Oct 1540
| | +Anne Haute b. , Maidstone, Ken, Eng
| |--3-Nicholas Gainsford
| |--3-Otewell Gainsford
| |--3-George Gainsford
|--2-Agnes Gainsford d. Abt 1490, (Goudhurst, KEN, ENG)
+Sir John Culpeper b. 1428, d. 22 Dec 1480, (Goudhurst, KEN, ENG)
|--3-Walter Culpeper d. Between 14 Sep 1514 and 28 Apr 1516
-----------------------------

Descendants of Sir Otewell Worsley of Southwark, Surrey
-------------------------------------------------------
1-Sir Otewell Worsley of Southwark, Surrey d. 24 Mar 1470
+ Rose Trevor (d. Edward ap Dafydd) [1]
|--2-Anne Worsley
| +John Gainsford b. Bef 1430, d. 1491, Guilford, SUR, ENG
| |--3-Sir John Gainsford Knt. b. Abt 1469, Crowhurst, Sry, Eng, d. 28 Oct 1540
| | +Anne Haute b. , Maidstone, Ken, Eng
| |--3-Nicholas Gainsford
| |--3-Otewell Gainsford
| |--3-George Gainsford
|--2-Hugh Worsley d. , s.p.
|--2-Margaret Worsley d. Between 5 Jul and 13 Dec 1505
| +Adrian Whetehill
|--2-Isabel Worsley d. 18 Apr 1527, (Lambeth, SRY, ENG) [1]
+Richard Culpeper of Oxenhoath b. Abt 1430, d. 4 Oct 1484 [1]
+Sir John Leigh K.B., of Stockwell, Surrey d. 17 Aug 1523 [1]
-------------------------------------------------------

[1] Richardson, Douglas (2005), Magna Carta Ancestry, Genealogical
Publishing Co. Inc., Maryland, Stockman:11, p. 780.

Louise

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:53:50 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <[email protected]>
wrote:

We need to first review the source for the connection you propose,
which is

http://books.google.com/books?id=Hi8EAA ... +gainsford

Vis Surrey, Gainesford