SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

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Dennis

SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

Legg inn av Dennis » 14 des 2007 00:10:45

If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at
http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I
need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the
matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will
have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that
will tell me the results. True?

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Dennis

Doug Corbin

Re: SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

Legg inn av Doug Corbin » 14 des 2007 16:02:42

"Dennis" wrote in message
news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com...
If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at
http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I
need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the
matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will
have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that
will tell me the results. True?

--

Dennis

You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were
206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that you
couldn't find yours.

Doug

Dennis

Re: SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

Legg inn av Dennis » 14 des 2007 17:16:04

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:42 GMT, "Doug Corbin" <bookrk@swbell.net>
wrote:

"Dennis" wrote in message
news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com...
If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at
http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I
need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the
matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will
have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that
will tell me the results. True?

--

Dennis

You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were
206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that you
couldn't find yours.

Doug

Maybe I'm being thick, but using your example of SMITH and the default
marker values on the Search page, let's say that I determine that Result
#1 and Result #2 are the two tests I submitted. The default marker value
for DYS449 for the search was 29. Both #1 and #2 were "no match",
meaning #1 was not 29 and #2 was not 29. This doesn't mean that #1 and
#2 match each other (on DYS449), because one could be 30 and one could
be 31.

Do you see what I mean? You cannot just find the two tests that you
submitted and compare the colors that appear in the table.

--

Dennis

Ron Head

Re: SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

Legg inn av Ron Head » 16 des 2007 00:53:28

"Dennis" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:42 GMT, "Doug Corbin" <bookrk@swbell.net
wrote:


"Dennis" wrote in message
news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com...
If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at
http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I
need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the
matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will
have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that
will tell me the results. True?

--

Dennis

You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were
206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that
you
couldn't find yours.

Doug

Maybe I'm being thick, but using your example of SMITH and the default
marker values on the Search page, let's say that I determine that Result
#1 and Result #2 are the two tests I submitted. The default marker value
for DYS449 for the search was 29. Both #1 and #2 were "no match",
meaning #1 was not 29 and #2 was not 29. This doesn't mean that #1 and
#2 match each other (on DYS449), because one could be 30 and one could
be 31.

Do you see what I mean? You cannot just find the two tests that you
submitted and compare the colors that appear in the table.

--

Dennis

Dennis, it will take a while, but you CAN figure out all the marker values
for #1, by patiently doing a number of searches. If DYS449's default marker
(29) is not a match for sample #1, try each of the other possible marker
values for DYS449 until you detemine the one that IS a match. Then move on
to the next "no match" and do the same thing.

SMGF will only allow a certain number of searches per day (50?), so it may
take a while to figure out ALL the matches for Sample #1, but when you do,
you can compare any of the other samples to that one.

Hey, it ain't a perfect system, but you can't beat the price!

Dennis

Re: SMGF Y-Chromosome Database

Legg inn av Dennis » 16 des 2007 00:59:33

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:53:28 -0600, "Ron Head" <ronhead@knology.net>
wrote:

"Dennis" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:lj95m31idf1m3ljf0pnnf9jqljbj178t6v@4ax.com...
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:42 GMT, "Doug Corbin" <bookrk@swbell.net
wrote:


"Dennis" wrote in message
news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com...
If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at
http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I
need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the
matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will
have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that
will tell me the results. True?

--

Dennis

You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were
206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that
you
couldn't find yours.

Doug

Maybe I'm being thick, but using your example of SMITH and the default
marker values on the Search page, let's say that I determine that Result
#1 and Result #2 are the two tests I submitted. The default marker value
for DYS449 for the search was 29. Both #1 and #2 were "no match",
meaning #1 was not 29 and #2 was not 29. This doesn't mean that #1 and
#2 match each other (on DYS449), because one could be 30 and one could
be 31.

Do you see what I mean? You cannot just find the two tests that you
submitted and compare the colors that appear in the table.

--

Dennis

Dennis, it will take a while, but you CAN figure out all the marker values
for #1, by patiently doing a number of searches. If DYS449's default marker
(29) is not a match for sample #1, try each of the other possible marker
values for DYS449 until you detemine the one that IS a match. Then move on
to the next "no match" and do the same thing.

SMGF will only allow a certain number of searches per day (50?), so it may
take a while to figure out ALL the matches for Sample #1, but when you do,
you can compare any of the other samples to that one.

Hey, it ain't a perfect system, but you can't beat the price!

That's what I was afraid of. I didn't know about the limit.

Thanks...

--

Dennis

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