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From: "Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval,
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Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Maud Fitz Alan,the Almost Queen of
Scotland
[Crossposted to soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval,
alt.history.british, alt.talk.royalty]
Dear Newsgroup ~
I recently posted regarding the subsequent history of Maud Fitz Alan,
the hitherto unnoticed second wife of Robert de Brus, Earl of Carrick,
lord of Annandale (afterwards King Robert [I] de Brus of Scotland).
In my earlier post copied below, I stated that this marriage was
terminated by divorce sometime before 1302, which is the date of King
Robert's next marriage. However, it appears that this marriage was
terminated by Easter term, 1299, when Maud sued in a plea of dower in
England as "Maud widow of Philip Burnell" regarding a messuage and
lands in Gunton, Norfolk [Reference: Walter Rye, Some Rough Materials
for a History of the Hundred of North Erpingham, 1 (1883): 82).
For a view of this pleading cited in Rye's work, see the following
weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EhgHAA ... 2#PPA82,M1
Mr. Rye also provides a transcript of a document dated 1300 written
in French issued by Maud Fitz Alan herself. Her name is given in
this document as "Mahaud qe fu la femme Sire Philip Burnel" (or, if
you prefer, Maud the widow of Sir Philip Burnel).
Maud Fitz Alan's own document may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EhgHAA ... 2#PPA83,M1
Enjoy!
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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COPY OF EARLIER POST
On Oct 17, 12:17 pm, Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com> wrote:
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval,
alt.history.british, alt.talk.royalty
From: Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:17:29 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 17 2007 12:17 pm
Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Maud Fitz Alan, the Almost Queen
of Scotland
Dear Newsgroup ~
In earlier posts on the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup, I presented
evidence which proved conclusively that Robert de Brus, Earl of
Carrick, lord of Annandale (afterwards King Robert [I] de Brus of
Scotland) had a previously unknown second marriage by license dated 19
Sept. 1295 to Maud Fitz Alan, widow of Philip Burnell, Knt., of
Holgate, Shropshire, and daughter of John Fitz Alan, of Clun and
Oswestry, Shropshire. In 1296 Robert de Brus and Maud sued in a plea
of dower regarding Maud's English lands. After this date, Maud
disappears from Scottish records. I presume therefore that this
marriage was terminated by divorce sometime before 1302 (date of
Robert's next marriage) on grounds of consanguinity. The two parties
were in fact near related to each other in the 4th degree of kindred,
by virtue of their common descent from Sir William Marshal, Earl of
Pembroke (died 1219). Maud Fitz Alan returned to England, where she
and her son, Edward Burnell, were sued in Michaelmas term, 6 Edward II
(1312-3) by Henry de Erdington regarding the manor of Wellington,
Shropshire. She presented to the church of Great Cheverell, Wiltshire
in 1314 and in 1315. Maud married (3rd) sometime before 19 June 1316
Simon de Criketot, who was living 7 March 1320.
In more recent time, I've learned that Maud petitioned the king and
council in England in 1302 styled as "Maud, widow of Philip Burnell."
The petition involves certain socages and burgages held in various
counties by her late husband, Philip Burnell [Reference: PRO Document,
SC 8/313/E63]. Maud was living 19 June 1316, but evidently died
sometime shortly before 17 Nov. 1326 (death date of her nephew, Edmund
de Arundel), as indicated by another petition dated c.1330 submitted
to the king and council by her daughter and son-in-law, Maud and John
de Haudlo [Reference: PRO Document, SC 8/52/2570].
As for Maud Fitz Alan's third husband, Simon de Criketot, I find that
in 1296, while with the king's army in Scotland, he was attached to
answer Robert de Escores on a plea of trespass, regarding which plea
he had licence to make an agreement, saving to the marshal his right;
they submitted themselves to the arbitration of William Talemasch and
Thomas de Hauville [Reference: Neville "A Plea Roll of Edward I's Army
in Scotland, 1296" in Miscellany of the Scottish Hist. Soc. 11
(1990)]. It is tempting to think that Simon de Criketot met Maud Fitz
Alan in 1296, when he was in Scotland. If so, perhaps the grounds for
Robert de Brus' divorce from Maud Fitz Alan was her abandonment and
adultery, not consanguinity at all. Unfortunately for us, the records
of Scottish divorces in this time period have not survived.
For interest's sake, I've copied below an abstract of the petition
dated c.1330, which concerns property Maud Fitz Alan received in
marriage from her brother, Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of Arundel. It
should be noted that following the death of Maud's brother, Earl
Richard Fitz Alan, the Fitz Alan family dropped the surname of Fitz
Alan and subsequently went exclusively by the surname (de) Arundel.
This explains why Maud's brother is called Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of
Arundel, in the petition below, whereas his son, Edmund, who was known
as Edmund de Arundel, is merely called Edmund, Earl of Arundel.
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New
World immigrants that descend from Maud Fitz Alan and her first
husband, Sir Philip Burnell.
Charles Calvert, Mary Launce, John Nelson, William & Elizabeth
Pole, Mary Johanna Somerset
For further particulars of these lines of descent and specifics
regarding the Fitz Alan/Arundel name change, please see my book,
Plantagenet Ancestry (2004), a copy of which can be obtained privately
through me.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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PRO Document, SC 8/52/2570 (abstract of document available online at
http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
Petition dated c.1330 by John de Haudlo and Maud his wife to the king
and council who state that Philip Burnell and Maud his wife were
seised of certain tenements which were given in free marriage by
Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of Arundel, Maud's brother; which tenements
Maud leased to Edmund Earl of Arundel after Philip's death. Because
they ought to descend to Maud de Haudlo, daughter of Maud and Philip,
John and Maud brought a writ of formedon against Edmund after Maud's
death, but Edmund died while it was being pleaded. The tenements came
into the king's hand, and he gave them to Roger de Mortemer, formerly
Earl of March. They are now again in the king's hand through his
forfeiture, and John and Maud ask him to consider their right, and do
justice to them.
Endorsement: The heir of the Earl of Arundel is restored to his lands,
because of which they are to be at common law.
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