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Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av badboy » 19 okt 2007 18:07:06

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

Rossa De Counte - b Oct 1813 Italy (1900 US Census, Cook Cnty, Chicago Wd
13, Series T623 Roll 261 page 260 states she immigrated in 1883)
Rocco De Counte - b Sep 1855 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1886)
Salvator De Counte - b Apr 1877 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1887, he is also
the enumerator list on the page)

I am not sure what port they would have come through, but older relatives
that knew Salvator said he came through New York. I've looked through the
ancestry.com records and the castlegarden.com records without any luck.

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

Robert Melson

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Robert Melson » 19 okt 2007 18:42:13

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:
Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

snip
Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike



Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob


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Gerry

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Gerry » 19 okt 2007 18:49:37

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

Rossa De Counte - b Oct 1813 Italy (1900 US Census, Cook Cnty, Chicago Wd
13, Series T623 Roll 261 page 260 states she immigrated in 1883)
Rocco De Counte - b Sep 1855 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1886)
Salvator De Counte - b Apr 1877 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1887, he is also
the enumerator list on the page)

I am not sure what port they would have come through, but older relatives
that knew Salvator said he came through New York. I've looked through the
ancestry.com records and the castlegarden.com records without any luck.

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

The second major port of entry into the US was New Orleans, and for
those folks who settled in the Mid West it is a very good proposition.

I wasn't familiar with castlegarden.com as a resource so I entered it in
my browser and found it was a Bed & Breakfast in Florida.

Gerry

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Gerry » 19 okt 2007 18:51:09

In article <13hhr3l6vu9pv85@corp.supernews.com>,
melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:
Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

snip
Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike



Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob

Ellis Island as an immigration was not founded until 1892 and since the
person in question arrived in 1883, there wouldn't be any records of
their arrival.

Tara

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Tara » 19 okt 2007 19:06:23

"Gerry" <everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
I wasn't familiar with castlegarden.com as a resource so I entered it in
my browser and found it was a Bed & Breakfast in Florida.

Try castlegarden.org.

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ntantiques

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av ntantiques » 19 okt 2007 20:17:41

On Oct 19, 10:51 am, Gerry <every...@sunrise.net> wrote:
In article <13hhr3l6vu9p...@corp.supernews.com>,
mels...@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:



In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_...@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:
Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

snip
Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob

Ellis Island as an immigration was not founded until 1892 and since the
person in question arrived in 1883, there wouldn't be any records of
their arrival.

Just to clarify - Castle Garden was the original immigrant entry
location in New York - if your peeps came in before 1892, check there
rather than Ellis Island.

Nancy T

singhals

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av singhals » 19 okt 2007 22:07:44

Gerry wrote:

In article <13hhr3l6vu9pv85@corp.supernews.com>,
melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:


In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:


snip

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike



Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob


Ellis Island as an immigration was not founded until 1892 and since the
person in question arrived in 1883, there wouldn't be any records of
their arrival.

Very true, but you'd be amazed how many people were wrong
about their entry date. Also depending on the source of the
data there's bad handwriting and typos ... EllisIsland can't
hurt and you can always report it wasn't there either.

Cheryl

singhals

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av singhals » 19 okt 2007 22:08:49

ntantiques wrote:

On Oct 19, 10:51 am, Gerry <every...@sunrise.net> wrote:

In article <13hhr3l6vu9p...@corp.supernews.com>,
mels...@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:




In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_...@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

snip

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob

Ellis Island as an immigration was not founded until 1892 and since the
person in question arrived in 1883, there wouldn't be any records of
their arrival.


Just to clarify - Castle Garden was the original immigrant entry
location in New York - if your peeps came in before 1892, check there
rather than Ellis Island.

Nancy T


Since we're being picky -- no, it wasn't. It was the one
that preceded Ellis Island, but it wasn't the _original_.

singhals

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av singhals » 19 okt 2007 22:13:11

Gerry wrote:

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> wrote:


Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

Rossa De Counte - b Oct 1813 Italy (1900 US Census, Cook Cnty, Chicago Wd
13, Series T623 Roll 261 page 260 states she immigrated in 1883)
Rocco De Counte - b Sep 1855 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1886)
Salvator De Counte - b Apr 1877 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1887, he is also
the enumerator list on the page)

I am not sure what port they would have come through, but older relatives
that knew Salvator said he came through New York. I've looked through the
ancestry.com records and the castlegarden.com records without any luck.

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike


The second major port of entry into the US was New Orleans, and for
those folks who settled in the Mid West it is a very good proposition.

I wasn't familiar with castlegarden.com as a resource so I entered it in
my browser and found it was a Bed & Breakfast in Florida.

Did you try the Steve Morris site for record-searching?
Often the record you want is there, you just can't find it
using their search engine. Steve developed a better mousetrap.

You might also consider the possibility that they actually
entered Canada and crossed into the US from there. ... A
certain type of mind will drive through NY and say they came
through it ...

New Orleans is also a good suggestion, but as John Colletta
will tell you you may find your immigrant (like his) listed
as "several Italians". (g)

Cheryl

ntantiques

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av ntantiques » 20 okt 2007 06:24:32

On Oct 19, 2:08 pm, singhals <singh...@erols.com> wrote:
ntantiques wrote:
On Oct 19, 10:51 am, Gerry <every...@sunrise.net> wrote:

In article <13hhr3l6vu9p...@corp.supernews.com>,
mels...@aragorn.rgmhome.net (Robert Melson) wrote:

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_...@verizont.net@nospam.com> writes:

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

snip

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

Have you tried the Ellis Island site?
http://www.ellisisland.org

Dunno if that will help, but can't hurt.

Swell Ol' Bob

Ellis Island as an immigration was not founded until 1892 and since the
person in question arrived in 1883, there wouldn't be any records of
their arrival.

Just to clarify - Castle Garden was the original immigrant entry
location in New York - if your peeps came in before 1892, check there
rather than Ellis Island.

Nancy T

Since we're being picky -- no, it wasn't. It was the one
that preceded Ellis Island, but it wasn't the _original_.

You're right, of course :-) Surprising how many people aren't aware
of Castle Garden though...and stop looking when they don't have any
luck at Ellis Island.
Nancy T

badboy

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av badboy » 20 okt 2007 14:42:48

Hi Cheryl,

Thanks for the reminder about Steve Morse's website, but still no luck. I
have searched through the Baltimore, Philadelphia, Boston, New Orleans, and
New York immigration and port arrivals indexes without any luck. This side
of the family is being pretty difficult and was hoping someone might have
some ideas on what other publications, sites, references, etc that would be
available at the library or online that I could search through. Kind of a
"how to break through your immigrant brick wall" refresher.

Also, I went through some of the Canadian ships lists on
olivetreegenealogy.com site. No luck there either.

The difficult part is that with "De Counte", some sites include the "De" in
the last name and others don't. Very frustrating. (sigh)

Thanks again for everyone's input and assistance.

--
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"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Gerry wrote:

In article <4718e43d$0$2893$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> wrote:


Hi all,

I'm trying to locate the immigration records of the following people:

Rossa De Counte - b Oct 1813 Italy (1900 US Census, Cook Cnty, Chicago Wd
13, Series T623 Roll 261 page 260 states she immigrated in 1883)
Rocco De Counte - b Sep 1855 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1886)
Salvator De Counte - b Apr 1877 Italy ( " he immigrated in 1887, he is
also the enumerator list on the page)

I am not sure what port they would have come through, but older relatives
that knew Salvator said he came through New York. I've looked through
the ancestry.com records and the castlegarden.com records without any
luck.

Any suggestions on where to go would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,
Mike


The second major port of entry into the US was New Orleans, and for those
folks who settled in the Mid West it is a very good proposition.

I wasn't familiar with castlegarden.com as a resource so I entered it in
my browser and found it was a Bed & Breakfast in Florida.

Did you try the Steve Morris site for record-searching? Often the record
you want is there, you just can't find it using their search engine.
Steve developed a better mousetrap.

You might also consider the possibility that they actually entered Canada
and crossed into the US from there. ... A certain type of mind will drive
through NY and say they came through it ...

New Orleans is also a good suggestion, but as John Colletta will tell you
you may find your immigrant (like his) listed as "several Italians". (g)

Cheryl

Henry Brownlee

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 20 okt 2007 15:45:39

"badboy" <me_lee@verizont.net@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:471a05dd$0$2886$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
| Hi Cheryl,
<SNIP>
| The difficult part is that with "De Counte", some sites include the "De"
in
| the last name and others don't. Very frustrating. (sigh)
|
| Thanks again for everyone's input and assistance.
|
| --
| badboy

Another thing you might try is to check for listings of "Le Counte" or
"LeCompte." Especially if he came thru New Orleans and there was a
French-speaking immigration official interviewing him.
You never know!

--
Henry Brownlee
Houma, Louisiana

Sir Creep

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Sir Creep » 20 okt 2007 15:54:51

badboy wrote:
Hi Cheryl,

The difficult part is that with "De Counte", some sites include the "De" in
the last name and others don't. Very frustrating. (sigh)


I hear ya. I have had little luck with De Vore (DeVore), some guy who
came here from France approx 1839 or so (my guess, 1835-1841 is safe
bet). Ended up in Mifflin County PA (McVeytown). I don't live in PA,
so have little hope of finding immigration docs unless I get lucky in
the online community. Hint hint LOL. Anyway, I feel your pain with
having to do what amounts to TWO searches every time with these
surnames.

Patrick

Hugh Watkins

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 20 okt 2007 19:47:00

Sir Creep wrote:

badboy wrote:

Hi Cheryl,


The difficult part is that with "De Counte", some sites include the "De" in
the last name and others don't. Very frustrating. (sigh)



I hear ya. I have had little luck with De Vore (DeVore), some guy who
came here from France approx 1839 or so (my guess, 1835-1841 is safe
bet). Ended up in Mifflin County PA (McVeytown). I don't live in PA,
so have little hope of finding immigration docs unless I get lucky in
the online community. Hint hint LOL. Anyway, I feel your pain with
having to do what amounts to TWO searches every time with these
surnames.


did he come via Quebec?


Hugh W

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singhals

Re: Help with finding immigration record

Legg inn av singhals » 21 okt 2007 16:52:12

Sir Creep wrote:

badboy wrote:

Hi Cheryl,


The difficult part is that with "De Counte", some sites include the "De" in
the last name and others don't. Very frustrating. (sigh)



I hear ya. I have had little luck with De Vore (DeVore), some guy who
came here from France approx 1839 or so (my guess, 1835-1841 is safe
bet). Ended up in Mifflin County PA (McVeytown). I don't live in PA,
so have little hope of finding immigration docs unless I get lucky in
the online community. Hint hint LOL. Anyway, I feel your pain with
having to do what amounts to TWO searches every time with these
surnames.

Patrick



Freebie: if he ended up in McVeytown, which is
South-Central PA, he probably came in via Philly.

And if you can get by with only 2 searches per surname,
you're missing a lot of people. (g) I do 36 searches on one
of my surnames.

Cheryl

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