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D. Spencer Hines

Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak Oba

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 17 okt 2007 01:10:42

<http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obama-are-eighth-cousins/>

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

John Briggs

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John Briggs » 17 okt 2007 01:25:32

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obama-are-eighth-cousins/

The best comment was: "If I didn’t know better I would have said American
politics had just jumped the shark."
--
John Briggs

John P. Ravilious

Royal Ancestry of Barack Obama (was Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice P

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 17 okt 2007 08:13:36

Dear DSH et al.,

Thanks for that update re: Senator Obama. I see WAR has already
been working on his ancestry, which (besides Mareen Duvall) is
currently traced to the emigrant Edward FitzRandolph, among others:

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Besides assorted nobility and Magna Carta sureties, there is at
least 1 line back to Hugh Capet, and 1 to the Emperor Lothar I (d.
855). Plus Henry the Fowler, and a multitude of the expected 10th-9th
century ancestors.

All we have to do now is wait for the traditional 'Best royal
ancestry wins White House' journalism......

Cheers,

John






On Oct 16, 8:25 pm, "John Briggs" <john.brig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

The best comment was: "If I didn't know better I would have said American
politics had just jumped the shark."
--
John Briggs

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Royal Ancestry Of Barack Obama (Was Re: Lynne Cheney: Vi

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 17 okt 2007 11:12:43

You're welcome, John.

Barak Obama also seems to be related to Robert Duvall, the actor.

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <therav3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192590778.083802.122980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear DSH et al.,

Thanks for that update re: Senator Obama. I see WAR has already
been working on his ancestry, which (besides Mareen Duvall) is
currently traced to the emigrant Edward FitzRandolph, among others:

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Besides assorted nobility and Magna Carta sureties, there is at
least 1 line back to Hugh Capet, and 1 to the Emperor Lothar I (d.
855). Plus Henry the Fowler, and a multitude of the expected 10th-9th
century ancestors.

All we have to do now is wait for the traditional 'Best royal
ancestry wins White House' journalism......

Cheers,

John

Jack Linthicum

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Jack Linthicum » 17 okt 2007 11:33:03

On Oct 16, 8:10 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

http://www.tomroeser.com/blog/img/f2385 ... icture.jpg
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/ ... 0J-011.jpg

yeah, right

Duvall, Jeffery A

RE: OT: Cheney, Obama, and Mareen Duvall connections

Legg inn av Duvall, Jeffery A » 17 okt 2007 14:42:07

This story, in one form or another, has been floating around for months now (it was a topic of conversation among my cousins at a family event early in the summer and I know it was at least a small part of the earlier "is Obama Black enough" debate). In looking at Wm. Reitwiesner's page a little while ago, however, it looks like he's added more details on Obama's ancestry and connections since I last looked at it in June.

What I got tired of trying to explain to people who saw the story and asked me about it, assuming (rightly as it happened, but still it was annoying) that I must be part of the same Duvall family, was that this was not a case (as far as anyone can know) of Obama's Duvall ancestor being a master who raped a slave, but was instead simply an ordinary line of descent through his mother who happens to have been white...

Jeff Duvall

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On Oct 16, 8:10 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

http://www.tomroeser.com/blog/img/f2385 ... icture.jpg
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/ ... 0J-011.jpg

yeah, right


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John Brandon

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John Brandon » 17 okt 2007 15:21:04

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

Well, I suppose ... if you swap out a "twinkle in the eye" for a
"twisted sneer" ...

John Brandon

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John Brandon » 17 okt 2007 16:13:12

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult


This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).

John P. Ravilious

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 17 okt 2007 19:32:36

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John




===================================


Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '



On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lynne-cheney-dick-and-barack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 17 okt 2007 19:43:25

John,

How do you relate to Robert Duvall?

And are you both somehow related to Robert E. Lee?

Cheers,

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <therav3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192645956.429020.118170@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

Douglas Richardson

Re: Royal Ancestry Of Barack Obama (Was Re: Lynne Cheney: Vi

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 17 okt 2007 20:50:08

Dear Spencer ~

I'm also related to Senator Obama through the Duvall family of
Maryland.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Oct 17, 4:12 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
You're welcome, John.

Barak Obama also seems to be related to Robert Duvall, the actor.

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1192590778.083802.122980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear DSH et al.,

Thanks for that update re: Senator Obama. I see WAR has already
been working on his ancestry, which (besides Mareen Duvall) is
currently traced to the emigrant Edward FitzRandolph, among others:

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Besides assorted nobility and Magna Carta sureties, there is at
least 1 line back to Hugh Capet, and 1 to the Emperor Lothar I (d.
855). Plus Henry the Fowler, and a multitude of the expected 10th-9th
century ancestors.

All we have to do now is wait for the traditional 'Best royal
ancestry wins White House' journalism......

Cheers,

John

John P. Ravilious

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 17 okt 2007 21:42:54

Dear Spencer,

I'm not aware of a relationship between myself and Robert E. Lee
- although there are connections via his wife. As to the actor Robert
Duvall, the following shows (from other sources) his descent from
Mareen Duvall, and separately, my own.


A. From The Duvall Society, http://www.duvallsociety.org/notables.html


1. Mareen Duvall, the emigrant
2. Mareen Duvall, "the Elder" and Frances Stockett
3. Mareen Duvall and Sarah (unknown)
4. Samuel Duvall and Eleanor Pearce
5. William Duvall and Ann "Nancy" Ramsey
6. William Henry Duvall and (unknown) Williams
7. Andrew Jackson Duvall and Sarah Bohannon
8. Abraham Lincoln Duvall and Laura V. Rhine
9. William Howard Duvall (1904-1984) and Mildred Hart
10. Robert S. Duvall (the actor)


B. My descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the emigrant, m. (2) Susannah Brasseur (Brashears)
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler, of 'Brough'
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Mary Pottenger, m. (1) James Mullikin 'IV', of 'Majors Lot'
5. Mary Mullikin, m. John Wheate, of 'Cool Spring'
6. Thomas Wheat, m. Mary Chatham
7. Rev. John Thomas Wheat, m. Selina Blair Patten
8. Selina Patten Wheat, m. Dr. John Seay
9. John Thomas Seay, m. Laura Blond
10. Roberdeau Samuel Seay, m. Alice Emelia Olson
11. Tilly Seline Seay, m. Clarence F. Ravilious
12. John P. Ravilious


I wonder if there's a generation or two missing in Robert
Duvall's ancestry...?

Cheers,

John






On Oct 17, 2:43 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
John,

How do you relate to Robert Duvall?

And are you both somehow related to Robert E. Lee?

Cheers,

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1192645956.429020.118170@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Royal Ancestry Of Barack Obama (Was Re: Lynne Cheney: Vi

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 17 okt 2007 22:06:12

Fascinating!

Thanks, Douglas.

DSH

"Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1192650608.012719.296800@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
Dear Spencer ~

I'm also related to Senator Obama through the Duvall family of
Maryland.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Oct 17, 4:12 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
You're welcome, John.

Barak Obama also seems to be related to Robert Duvall, the actor.

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in
messagenews:1192590778.083802.122980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear DSH et al.,

Thanks for that update re: Senator Obama. I see WAR has already
been working on his ancestry, which (besides Mareen Duvall) is
currently traced to the emigrant Edward FitzRandolph, among others:

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Besides assorted nobility and Magna Carta sureties, there is at
least 1 line back to Hugh Capet, and 1 to the Emperor Lothar I (d.
855). Plus Henry the Fowler, and a multitude of the expected 10th-9th
century ancestors.

All we have to do now is wait for the traditional 'Best royal
ancestry wins White House' journalism......

Cheers,

John

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 17 okt 2007 22:22:09

O.K.

So you and Robert Duvall are 8th cousins, twice removed -- or something like
that?

When Duvall played Marse Robert in _Gods And Generals_, incidentally doing a
simply magnificent job of it, he was reported as mentioning a Robert E. Lee
connection.

One account even made him a DESCENDENT of the Great Man -- but that seems
dubious and apocryphal.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"John P. Ravilious" <therav3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192653774.159346.234000@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

Dear Spencer,

I'm not aware of a relationship between myself and Robert E. Lee
- although there are connections via his wife. As to the actor Robert
Duvall, the following shows (from other sources) his descent from
Mareen Duvall, and separately, my own.

Is the source for Robert Duvall online?

A. From The Duvall Society, http://www.duvallsociety.org/notables.html

1. Mareen Duvall, the emigrant
2. Mareen Duvall, "the Elder" and Frances Stockett
3. Mareen Duvall and Sarah (unknown)
4. Samuel Duvall and Eleanor Pearce
5. William Duvall and Ann "Nancy" Ramsey
6. William Henry Duvall and (unknown) Williams
7. Andrew Jackson Duvall and Sarah Bohannon
8. Abraham Lincoln Duvall and Laura V. Rhine
9. William Howard Duvall (1904-1984) and Mildred Hart
10. Robert S. Duvall (the actor)


B. My descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the emigrant, m. (2) Susannah Brasseur (Brashears)
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler, of 'Brough'
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Mary Pottenger, m. (1) James Mullikin 'IV', of 'Majors Lot'
5. Mary Mullikin, m. John Wheate, of 'Cool Spring'
6. Thomas Wheat, m. Mary Chatham
7. Rev. John Thomas Wheat, m. Selina Blair Patten
8. Selina Patten Wheat, m. Dr. John Seay
9. John Thomas Seay, m. Laura Blond
10. Roberdeau Samuel Seay, m. Alice Emelia Olson
11. Tilly Seline Seay, m. Clarence F. Ravilious
12. John P. Ravilious


I wonder if there's a generation or two missing in Robert
Duvall's ancestry...?

Cheers,

John

On Oct 17, 2:43 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
John,

How do you relate to Robert Duvall?

And are you both somehow related to Robert E. Lee?

Cheers,

DSH

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in
messagenews:1192645956.429020.118170@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

Douglas Richardson

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 18 okt 2007 03:19:24

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.
6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Douglas Richardson

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 18 okt 2007 03:19:24

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.
6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Douglas Richardson

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 18 okt 2007 03:19:24

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.
6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Douglas Richardson

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 18 okt 2007 03:19:24

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.
6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Gjest

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Gjest » 18 okt 2007 03:31:28

On Oct 17, 11:32 am, "John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote:
Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

===================================

Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack Obama.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:



http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would be interested to know how much of Obama's Kenyan ancestry has
been traced & who shows up in it. Anyone?

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 18 okt 2007 04:19:24

Thank you, Douglas!

So you and Robert Duvall are 9th cousins, or something similar?

Do you know anything about this Robert E. Lee connection?

DSH

"Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1192673964.579553.176650@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.

Two 5's? Two descents or just a misnumbering?

6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

John P. Ravilious

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 18 okt 2007 04:30:05

Wednesday, 17 October, 2007


Dear Will,

In the ascent you give from Martha Eltonhead, you show
James de St. Hilaire (elsewhere 'Englished' as de St.
Hilary) as husband of 'Aveline (Ales) of Scotland, dau of
Alexander, King of Scotland 1107-24 and Sibyl (Elizabeth)
of Scotland' [1]. Every source I've ever seen concerning
Alexander I, King of Scots indicates he died sans prole,
legitimate or otherwise (his successor was David I, his
youngest surviving brother).

I submit that the ascent fails with the parentage
given for Aveline, wife of James de St. Hilaire. If you
have sustainable documentation, I would be extremeley
interested as that would give a previously unknown Scots
line for the d'Aubigny Earls of Arundel, the de Clare Earls
of Hertford and Gloucester and many more besides.

Cheers,

John


NOTES

[1] 'Barack Obama', biography provided by Will Johnson:

http://www.countyhistorian.com/cecilweb ... rack_Obama




On 17 Oct 2007 Will Johnson wrote:

Oops, okay I've posted the full ascent from Martha Eltonhead to
King Alexander here

http://www.countyhistorian.com/cecilweb ... rack_Obama

Perhaps some eagle-eye can see where it fails, if it does.

Will Johnson

Douglas Richardson

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 18 okt 2007 08:20:56

Yes, you're quite correct, Spencer.

Lewis Kercheval should be Gen. 6. I inadvertedly misnumbered the
generations in my line of descent.

I don't know anything about Robert E. Lee.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Oct 17, 9:19 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
< Thank you, Douglas!
<
< So you and Robert Duvall are 9th cousins, or something similar?
<
< Do you know anything about this Robert E. Lee connection?
<
< DSH
<
< "Douglas Richardson" <royalances...@msn.com> wrote in message
<
< news:1192673964.579553.176650@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
<
< > Dear Spencer ~
<
< > Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:
<
< > 1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
< > 2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
< > 3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
< > 4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
< > 5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
< > 5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.
<
< Two 5's? Two descents or just a misnumbering?
<
< > 6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
< > 7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
< > 8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
< > 9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
< > 10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

< > It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
< > line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.
<
< > President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.
<
< > Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 18 okt 2007 08:33:59

Thanks, Douglas.

Cheers,

DSH

"Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1192692056.015667.153890@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Yes, you're quite correct, Spencer.

Lewis Kercheval should be Gen. 6. I inadvertedly misnumbered the
generations in my line of descent.

I don't know anything about Robert E. Lee.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Oct 17, 9:19 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
Thank you, Douglas!

So you and Robert Duvall are 9th cousins, or something similar?

Do you know anything about this Robert E. Lee connection?

DSH

"Douglas Richardson" <royalances...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:1192673964.579553.176650@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Dear Spencer ~

Here is my descent from Mareen Duvall:

1. Mareen Duvall, the immigrant, m. (2) Susannah _____.
2. Susannah Duvall, m. Robert Tyler.
3. Elizabeth Tyler, m. (1) Samuel Pottenger
4. Robert Pottenger, married Elizabeth Willett.
5. Mary Pottenger, married James Kercheval.
5. Lewis Kercheval, married Mary Runyon.

Two 5's? Two descents or just a misnumbering?

6. Reuben Kercheval, married Margaret White Brodie.
7. Howard Douglas Kercheval, married Martha Stewart Barkley.
8. Elbert Merwin Kercheval, married Elizabeth Lenniker Finnie.
9. Joan Elizabeth Kercheval, married Wayne H. Richardson.
10. Douglas Charles Richardson.

It would appear that the good Mr. Ravilious and I share the Duvall
line, as well as Tyler and Pottenger.

President Harry S. Truman is also a Duvall descendant.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

John P. Ravilious

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av John P. Ravilious » 18 okt 2007 12:24:39

Dear Bronwen,

You can find what WAR has compiled at

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

It appears that the Obama male-line ancestry is intact back to
the 1600's, evidently from the time of the Luo expansion into Kenya.
We don't have accompanying (Western style) dating, but it appears that
Barack Obama's 10th great-grandfather, Miwiru, would have been
contemporaneous with Barack's English and Dutch ancestors
(FitzRandolph, etc.) living roughly 1600-1700.

Cheers,

John




On Oct 17, 10:31 pm, lostcoo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 17, 11:32 am, "John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote:



Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

===================================

Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack Obama.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret [1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would be interested to know how much of Obama's Kenyan ancestry has
been traced & who shows up in it. Anyone?

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 18 okt 2007 17:18:51

Hmmmmmm...

One interesting question is whether any of them were slave traders or not.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"John P. Ravilious" <therav3@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1192706679.236971.11440@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

Dear Bronwen,

You can find what WAR has compiled at

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

It appears that the Obama male-line ancestry is intact back to
the 1600's, evidently from the time of the Luo expansion into Kenya.
We don't have accompanying (Western style) dating, but it appears that
Barack Obama's 10th great-grandfather, Miwiru, would have been
contemporaneous with Barack's English and Dutch ancestors
(FitzRandolph, etc.) living roughly 1600-1700.

Cheers,

John




On Oct 17, 10:31 pm, lostcoo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 17, 11:32 am, "John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote:



Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

===================================

Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack
Obama.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more
generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former
President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of
Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret
[1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with
him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would be interested to know how much of Obama's Kenyan ancestry has
been traced & who shows up in it. Anyone?

Jack Linthicum

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Jack Linthicum » 18 okt 2007 18:39:00

On Oct 18, 12:18 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
Hmmmmmm...

One interesting question is whether any of them were slave traders or not.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1192706679.236971.11440@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

Dear Bronwen,

You can find what WAR has compiled at

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

It appears that the Obama male-line ancestry is intact back to
the 1600's, evidently from the time of the Luo expansion into Kenya.
We don't have accompanying (Western style) dating, but it appears that
Barack Obama's 10th great-grandfather, Miwiru, would have been
contemporaneous with Barack's English and Dutch ancestors
(FitzRandolph, etc.) living roughly 1600-1700.

Cheers,

John

On Oct 17, 10:31 pm, lostcoo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 17, 11:32 am, "John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote:

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

===================================

Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack
Obama.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more
generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former
President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of
Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret
[1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with
him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would be interested to know how much of Obama's Kenyan ancestry has
been traced & who shows up in it. Anyone?

Why? Is it more heinous to sell slaves than to buy them?

Jack Linthicum

Re: Lynne Cheney: Vice President Dick Cheney & Senator Barak

Legg inn av Jack Linthicum » 19 okt 2007 08:00:12

On Oct 18, 12:18 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
Hmmmmmm...

One interesting question is whether any of them were slave traders or not.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1192706679.236971.11440@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

Dear Bronwen,

You can find what WAR has compiled at

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

It appears that the Obama male-line ancestry is intact back to
the 1600's, evidently from the time of the Luo expansion into Kenya.
We don't have accompanying (Western style) dating, but it appears that
Barack Obama's 10th great-grandfather, Miwiru, would have been
contemporaneous with Barack's English and Dutch ancestors
(FitzRandolph, etc.) living roughly 1600-1700.

Cheers,

John

On Oct 17, 10:31 pm, lostcoo...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 17, 11:32 am, "John P. Ravilious" <ther...@aol.com> wrote:

Dear John, et al.,

Should be some interesting research. Just watch out for your
sources.

I understand the story is now out, that Mareen Duvall was a woman
[see below - "Samuel Duvall, whose mother, Mareen Duvall,..."]. That
will complicate the family tree a bit, for me as well - Mareen Duvall
now figuring as my 9th great-grandfather..........

Caveat scriptor.

John

===================================

Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A06
THIS JUST IN . . .
Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack
Obama.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... ticle/20...

' At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne
Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in
fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American
member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot
who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her
latest book.

"This is such an amazing story," Cheney said in an interview on MSNBC,
"that one ancestor, a man that came to Maryland, could be responsible
down the family line for lives that have taken such different and
varied paths as Dick's and Barack Obama's." Cristina Allegretti, Lynne
Cheney's research and project manager at the American Enterprise
Institute, said the vice president's wife did an exhaustive
genealogical search of her family while working on "Blue Skies, No
Fences." Her research led her to an early Cheney settler named Richard
Cheney, whose granddaughter married Samuel Duvall, whose mother,
Mareen Duvall, is distantly related to Obama. Lynne Cheney read a
story that said Obama wa s related to Mareen Duvall, and realized the
link. '

On Oct 17, 11:13 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/16/lyn ... ack-obam...

Of course, Mrs. Cheney may actually mean 7th cousins, or more
generations.

Cheney is also reportedly a third cousin, twice removed, of former
President
Harry Truman -- and even looks like Truman.

The common ancestors there are Robert Tyler [1751-1815] of
Frederick County,
Virginia and Shelby County, Kentucky and his wife Margaret
[1755-1840].

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

This isn't really as strange as it seems. Looking at the wargs's
ancestor table of Obama, I see that I share a Singletary line with
him
(and possibly Hinckley [I'd have to recheck my Cobb and Chipman lines
to be sure of that]).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would be interested to know how much of Obama's Kenyan ancestry has
been traced & who shows up in it. Anyone?

Why? Is it more heinous to sell a slave than to buyl one?.

David Teague

Teague ancestry of Sen. Obama (was RE: Royal Ancestry of Bar

Legg inn av David Teague » 20 okt 2007 18:58:32

FWIW,



Sen. Obama is a descendant of the same Teague family of which I am a member. The senator's 6th great grandmother, Isabel Teague Welborn (or Wilborn; no. 487 in the wargs' chart) was a daughter of Moses Teague (b. Md. ,1718; d. Chatham Co., N.C. c. 1799) and his first wife, Elizabeth Loftin. After Elizabeth's death, Moses married Rachael Taylor, who is mentioned in Moses' will (written in 1786; proved by Moses' son Jacob at the Aug. court in 1799). The transcribed text of the will is available several places online, such as:



http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~teague/(NC)%20Moses%20Teague%20Will.htm

and the relevant passage reads as follows:



I give and bequeath to my children, Moses, Liga (Elijah?), Isabel Willborn?, Abraham Teague, Isaac Teague, Jacob Teague, William Teague, Elizabeth Johnston, Susannah Marley, Hannah Horniday, David Teague, and Charrint/Chaerint? Ray, the rest of my Estate after the afore mentioned legacy to my Wife, Rachael and my son David is taken out to be equally divided amongst them.



David Teague
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D. Spencer Hines

Re: Teague Ancestry Of Sen. Obama (Was RE: Royal Ancestry Of

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 20 okt 2007 19:38:15

Congratulations! <G>

So you and Barak Obama are what?...

5th cousins?

DSH

"David Teague" <davteague@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.260.1192903152.19317.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...
FWIW,

Sen. Obama is a descendant of the same Teague family of which I am a
member. The senator's 6th great grandmother, Isabel Teague Welborn (or
Wilborn; no. 487 in the wargs' chart) was a daughter of Moses Teague (b.
Md. ,1718; d. Chatham Co., N.C. c. 1799) and his first wife, Elizabeth
Loftin. After Elizabeth's death, Moses married Rachael Taylor, who is
mentioned in Moses' will (written in 1786; proved by Moses' son Jacob at
the Aug. court in 1799). The transcribed text of the will is available
several places online, such as:


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~teague/(NC)%20Moses%20Teague%20Will.htm

and the relevant passage reads as follows:

I give and bequeath to my children, Moses, Liga (Elijah?), Isabel
Willborn?, Abraham Teague, Isaac Teague, Jacob Teague, William Teague,
Elizabeth Johnston, Susannah Marley, Hannah Horniday, David Teague, and
Charrint/Chaerint? Ray, the rest of my Estate after the afore mentioned
legacy to my Wife, Rachael and my son David is taken out to be equally
divided amongst them.

David Teague

David Teague

RE: Teague Ancestry Of Sen. Obama (Was RE: Royal Ancestry Of

Legg inn av David Teague » 20 okt 2007 21:30:32

Spencer,

We are 8th cousins (2 lines) and 9th cousins (1 line):

1. Edward Teague, of Tegg's Delight, Cecil Co., Md. (d. 1697), m. Susanna;

2. William Teague (b. Md. c 1693; d. N.C.), m. Isabella (said to be either Loftin or Pennington, but neither has been conclusively proven);

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth Loftin (which gives both the senator and myself a relationship to former President Carter);

[NOTE: For this portion of the senator's ancestry, I am indebtted to the wargs.]

4. Isabel Teague (# 487 in the wargs chart), m. James Welborn/Wilborn;
5. Ruth Welborn/Wilborn, m. John Wilson;
6. Christine Wilson, m. Edward McCurry;
7. Harbin Wilburn McCurry, m. Elizabeth Edna Creekmore;
8. Thomas Creekmore McCurry, m. Margaret Belle Wright;
9. Leona McCurry, m. Rolla Charles Payne;10. Madelyn Lee Payne, m. Stanley Armour Dunham;
11. S[tanley] Ann Dunham, m. Barack Hussein Obama;
12. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., b. 4 Aug. 1961, U.S. Senator (D-Ill.) and Democratic Presidential candidate, 2008.

My Teague lines:

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth Loftin;
4. Jacob Teague, m. Lydia Barnes;
5. James Teague, m. Anna
6. William Teague, m. Phebe Ann Clinard;
7. Joseph Teague, m. Martha Emily Idol;
8. Charles Madison Teague, m. Sarah Idol;
9. Arnold Rowan Teague, m. C. Pearl Bodenhamer;
10. Norman Otis Teague, m. Blake Stafford;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth Loftin;
4. Abraham Teague, m. Hannah Brazier;
5. Hannah Teague, m. Asahel Hedgecock;
6. Sarah Hedgecock, m. David Idol;
7. Martha Emily Idol, m. Joseph Teague;
8. Charles Madison Teague, m. Sarah Idol;
9. Arnold Rowan Teague, m. C. Pearl Bodenhamer;
10. Norman Otis Teague, m. Blake Stafford;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

3. Abraham Teague, m. Anna;
4. John Teague, m. Martha Ledford;
5. Huldah Teague, m. John Charles;
6. Elisha Charles, m. Keziah Raper;
7. Huldah Lavina Charles, m. Andrew Idol;
8. Flora Idol, m. Cornelius (Neil) William Stafford;
9. Vera Lavina Stafford (1891-2000), m. Benjamin Harrison Stafford;
10. Blake Stafford, m. Norman Otis Teague;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

DRT


From: panther@excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Teague Ancestry Of Sen. Obama (Was RE: Royal Ancestry Of Barack Obama)> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:38:15 +0100> To: gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> > Congratulations! <G>> > So you and Barak Obama are what?...> > 5th cousins?> > DSH
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Re: Teague Ancestry Of Sen. Obama (Was RE: Royal Ancestry Of

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 20 okt 2007 21:57:29

Thank you kindly...

Most Interesting.

So you bear about the same relationship to Barak Obama as Dick Cheney does.

DSH

"David Teague" <davteague@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.268.1192912265.19317.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...

Spencer,

We are 8th cousins (2 lines) and 9th cousins (1 line):

1. Edward Teague, of Tegg's Delight, Cecil Co., Md. (d. 1697), m. Susanna;

2. William Teague (b. Md. c 1693; d. N.C.), m. Isabella (said to be either
Loftin or Pennington, but neither has been conclusively proven);

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth
Loftin (which gives both the senator and myself a relationship to former
President Carter);

[NOTE: For this portion of the senator's ancestry, I am indebtted to the
wargs.]

4. Isabel Teague (# 487 in the wargs chart), m. James Welborn/Wilborn;
5. Ruth Welborn/Wilborn, m. John Wilson;
6. Christine Wilson, m. Edward McCurry;
7. Harbin Wilburn McCurry, m. Elizabeth Edna Creekmore;
8. Thomas Creekmore McCurry, m. Margaret Belle Wright;
9. Leona McCurry, m. Rolla Charles Payne;10. Madelyn Lee Payne, m. Stanley
Armour Dunham;
11. S[tanley] Ann Dunham, m. Barack Hussein Obama;
12. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., b. 4 Aug. 1961, U.S. Senator (D-Ill.) and
Democratic Presidential candidate, 2008.

My Teague lines:

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth
Loftin;
4. Jacob Teague, m. Lydia Barnes;
5. James Teague, m. Anna
6. William Teague, m. Phebe Ann Clinard;
7. Joseph Teague, m. Martha Emily Idol;
8. Charles Madison Teague, m. Sarah Idol;
9. Arnold Rowan Teague, m. C. Pearl Bodenhamer;
10. Norman Otis Teague, m. Blake Stafford;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

3. Moses Teague (b. 1718; d.c. 1799, Chatham Co., N.C.), m. 1st, Elizabeth
Loftin;
4. Abraham Teague, m. Hannah Brazier;
5. Hannah Teague, m. Asahel Hedgecock;
6. Sarah Hedgecock, m. David Idol;
7. Martha Emily Idol, m. Joseph Teague;
8. Charles Madison Teague, m. Sarah Idol;
9. Arnold Rowan Teague, m. C. Pearl Bodenhamer;
10. Norman Otis Teague, m. Blake Stafford;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

3. Abraham Teague, m. Anna;
4. John Teague, m. Martha Ledford;
5. Huldah Teague, m. John Charles;
6. Elisha Charles, m. Keziah Raper;
7. Huldah Lavina Charles, m. Andrew Idol;
8. Flora Idol, m. Cornelius (Neil) William Stafford;
9. Vera Lavina Stafford (1891-2000), m. Benjamin Harrison Stafford;
10. Blake Stafford, m. Norman Otis Teague;
11. Charles Lowell Teague, m. Eva Gaynell Jones
12. David Randall Teague

DRT


From: panther@excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Teague Ancestry Of Sen. Obama
(Was RE: Royal Ancestry Of Barack Obama)> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:38:15
+0100> To: gen-medieval@rootsweb.com> > Congratulations! <G>> > So you and
Barak Obama are what?...> > 5th cousins?> > DSH

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