Nofutia?

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clifto

Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 13 okt 2007 06:56:16

Does Nofutia sound like a woman's first name? Probably Polish German or
German Polish. Inscription on the grave marker is in German. In the only
census entry I can find, she may be listed as Rosalie.

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"You can't block traffic if you're not in the way."

aspidistra

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av aspidistra » 29 okt 2007 23:20:39

The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is certainly
no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie or
Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.
Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.


"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0936u4-18k.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
Does Nofutia sound like a woman's first name? Probably Polish German or
German Polish. Inscription on the grave marker is in German. In the only
census entry I can find, she may be listed as Rosalie.

--
One phrase that explains 99% of all idiot driving:
"You can't block traffic if you're not in the way."

clifto

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 30 okt 2007 00:41:20

aspidistra wrote:
"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote...
Does Nofutia sound like a woman's first name? Probably Polish German or
German Polish. Inscription on the grave marker is in German. In the only
census entry I can find, she may be listed as Rosalie.

The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is certainly
no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie or
Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.

I've got a huge 1.24 meg and a 1.52 meg picture of it, and no place to post
them right now.

Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.

Bad contrast. On my list of things to bring next time is a spray bottle
full of clean water. The picture isn't very readable, but it's miles
better than seeing it in person.

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

Liz_in_Calgary

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Liz_in_Calgary » 30 okt 2007 03:18:19

Most picture software - ie hp photo imaging or photofiltre
or some other cheapo software will resize a picture for you.
Its usually under image - resize or something like that.
Even ms paint has that capability. Save the smaller image
to a different name. (Photoshop Album starter will not do
it.)

Any old photo sharing site will accept a file that big.

take care
Liz








On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:41:20 -0500, in alt.genealogy clifto
<clifto@gmail.com> wrote :

I've got a huge 1.24 meg and a 1.52 meg picture of it, and no place to post
them right now.

Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.

Bad contrast. On my list of things to bring next time is a spray bottle
full of clean water. The picture isn't very readable, but it's miles
better than seeing it in person.

Henry Brownlee

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Henry Brownlee » 30 okt 2007 03:25:41

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0m7iv4-7ks.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
| aspidistra wrote:
| > "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote...
| >> Does Nofutia sound like a woman's first name? Probably Polish German or
| >> German Polish. Inscription on the grave marker is in German. In the
only
| >> census entry I can find, she may be listed as Rosalie.
| >
| > The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is
certainly
| > no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie
or
| > Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.
|
| I've got a huge 1.24 meg and a 1.52 meg picture of it, and no place to
post
| them right now.
|
| > Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise
aged.
|
| Bad contrast. On my list of things to bring next time is a spray bottle
| full of clean water. The picture isn't very readable, but it's miles
| better than seeing it in person.
|
| --
| One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
| Three feet
| Three inches
| Three eights of an inch

Clifto,

You might try posting it to alt.binaries.genealogy which should accept a
file of that size. It is a seldom used site.

Henry

Hugh Watkins

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 30 okt 2007 03:36:44

clifto wrote:

aspidistra wrote:

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote...

Does Nofutia sound like a woman's first name? Probably Polish German or
German Polish. Inscription on the grave marker is in German. In the only
census entry I can find, she may be listed as Rosalie.

The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is certainly
no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie or
Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.


I've got a huge 1.24 meg and a 1.52 meg picture of it, and no place to post
them right now.


Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.


Bad contrast. On my list of things to bring next time is a spray bottle
full of clean water. The picture isn't very readable, but it's miles
better than seeing it in person.


send it as is to me off list as an attachement
and I will blog it for all to see

Hugh W
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clifto

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 30 okt 2007 05:15:24

Liz_in_Calgary wrote:
Most picture software - ie hp photo imaging or photofiltre
or some other cheapo software will resize a picture for you.
Its usually under image - resize or something like that.
Even ms paint has that capability. Save the smaller image
to a different name. (Photoshop Album starter will not do
it.)

Any old photo sharing site will accept a file that big.

Thanks. I looked around and everyone wanted registration, and I'm not into
that, then I tried using web space on the Comcast account and found it to
be less intuitive than any other computer system I've ever used (COBOL
included) other than Excel, so I broke down and dug up the passwords for
my own site and posted them there.

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

clifto

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 30 okt 2007 05:17:39

aspidistra wrote:
The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is certainly
no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie or
Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.
Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.

I posted them. The esses are long, and maybe it's the light, but this looks
different from the esses to me. Couldn't find any Nosutias either. So
to see the HUGE images (1.5 meg each):

http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg

I'll post smaller images soon, but figured to start I'd keep the resolution.
The pictures aren't all that great.

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

clifto

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 30 okt 2007 06:03:03

Henry Brownlee wrote:
You might try posting it to alt.binaries.genealogy which should accept a
file of that size. It is a seldom used site.

NOW he tells me. :)

http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

Michael Kenefick

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Michael Kenefick » 30 okt 2007 07:03:01

Gee and I thought I was paranoid about all those sites wanting me to register
and allow them to place cookies on my system. 8>)

Mike in Ohio

clifto wrote:
Liz_in_Calgary wrote:

Most picture software - ie hp photo imaging or photofiltre
or some other cheapo software will resize a picture for you.
Its usually under image - resize or something like that.
Even ms paint has that capability. Save the smaller image
to a different name. (Photoshop Album starter will not do
it.)

Any old photo sharing site will accept a file that big.


Thanks. I looked around and everyone wanted registration, and I'm not into
that, then I tried using web space on the Comcast account and found it to
be less intuitive than any other computer system I've ever used (COBOL
included) other than Excel, so I broke down and dug up the passwords for
my own site and posted them there.

Michael Kenefick

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Michael Kenefick » 30 okt 2007 07:43:10

I played with the image in MS Photo Editor. I blocked the name then cropped out
the rest of the picture. The first letter appears to came out as an R when I
placed the effect of thick line up on it. I may be getting Rosulia?? I googled
that name. It gave a few results.

I think the good folks at soc.genealogy.german may be better able to decipher
the name than myself.

Mike in Ohio

clifto wrote:
Henry Brownlee wrote:

You might try posting it to alt.binaries.genealogy which should accept a
file of that size. It is a seldom used site.


NOW he tells me. :)

http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg

J. Anderl

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av J. Anderl » 30 okt 2007 11:55:31

The names are Jakob Bieschki and Rosalia Bieschki (Wieschki ?).
J. Anderl

"Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4726E0AF.1040900@sbcglobal.net...
|I played with the image in MS Photo Editor. I blocked the name then cropped
out
| the rest of the picture. The first letter appears to came out as an R when I
| placed the effect of thick line up on it. I may be getting Rosulia?? I
googled
| that name. It gave a few results.
|
| I think the good folks at soc.genealogy.german may be better able to decipher
| the name than myself.
|
| Mike in Ohio
|
| clifto wrote:
| > Henry Brownlee wrote:
| >
| >>You might try posting it to alt.binaries.genealogy which should accept a
| >>file of that size. It is a seldom used site.
| >
| >
| > NOW he tells me. :)
| >
| > http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
| > http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg
| >
|

clifto

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av clifto » 30 okt 2007 15:25:29

Michael Kenefick wrote:
clifto wrote:
Thanks. I looked around and everyone wanted registration, and I'm not into
that

Gee and I thought I was paranoid about all those sites wanting me to register
and allow them to place cookies on my system. 8>)

Call it an idiosyncrasy. I'm full of 'em.

--
One meter, to within 0.0125% accuracy (off by just under .005 inches):
Three feet
Three inches
Three eights of an inch

singhals

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av singhals » 30 okt 2007 16:31:14

I lean toward agreeing, but the carver seems to be a bit
inconsistent in his formations; the 4th and the final
letters in her name don't appear to be _quite_ the same
shape?

Cheryl

J. Anderl wrote:

The names are Jakob Bieschki and Rosalia Bieschki (Wieschki ?).
J. Anderl

"Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4726E0AF.1040900@sbcglobal.net...
|I played with the image in MS Photo Editor. I blocked the name then cropped
out
| the rest of the picture. The first letter appears to came out as an R when I
| placed the effect of thick line up on it. I may be getting Rosulia?? I
googled
| that name. It gave a few results.
|
| I think the good folks at soc.genealogy.german may be better able to decipher
| the name than myself.
|
| Mike in Ohio
|
| clifto wrote:
| > Henry Brownlee wrote:
|
| >>You might try posting it to alt.binaries.genealogy which should accept a
| >>file of that size. It is a seldom used site.
|
|
| > NOW he tells me. :)
|
| > http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
| > http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg
|
|


J. Anderl

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av J. Anderl » 30 okt 2007 16:39:25

More due to illumination and maybe some corrosion or dirt,
than to inconsistencies of the carver, I think.
J. Anderl
"singhals" wrote
|I lean toward agreeing, but the carver seems to be a bit
| inconsistent in his formations; the 4th and the final
| letters in her name don't appear to be _quite_ the same
| shape?
|
| Cheryl
|
| J. Anderl wrote:
|
| > The names are Jakob Bieschki and Rosalia Bieschki (Wieschki ?).
| > J. Anderl


| > | > http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
| > | > http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg

Lutz Engelhardt

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Lutz Engelhardt » 30 okt 2007 19:06:58

The names are Jakob Bieschki and Rosalia Bieschki (Wieschki ?).

A little correction seems to be necessary: the male first name is Jacob
with c and not Jakob with k. It is hard to see exactly, but if you
compare it with the c and the k in Bieschki you will see the difference.

Wieschki is quite impossible, it is definitely Bieschki. On picture 2
you can see that there are more members of this family buried in this
grave. They lived 1 or 2 generations later and had the name Bieschke,
which seems to be the "germanized" form of the older Bieschki which
might be originated from Poland. The most well known German dictionary
of names (Bahlow) gives a hint to the place names Bischkowitz and Bieskau.

Regards,

Lutz Engelhardt


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Henning Boettcher

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Henning Boettcher » 30 okt 2007 20:54:41

"Lutz Engelhardt" <mail@lutz-genealogy.de> schrieb
The names are Jakob Bieschki and Rosalia Bieschki (Wieschki ?).

A little correction seems to be necessary: the male first name is
Jacob
with c and not Jakob with k. It is hard to see exactly, but if you
compare it with the c and the k in Bieschki you will see the
difference.

Wieschki is quite impossible, it is definitely Bieschki. On
picture 2
you can see that there are more members of this family buried in
this
grave. They lived 1 or 2 generations later and had the name
Bieschke,
which seems to be the "germanized" form of the older Bieschki
which
might be originated from Poland. The most well known German
dictionary
of names (Bahlow) gives a hint to the place names Bischkowitz and
Bieskau.

For Bischkowitz/Loheichen on could look at Biskupice,

for Bieskau/Altstett on could look at Nowa Cerekwia.

Bischkowitz/Loheichen is part of Kreis/district/powiat
Breslau/Wroclaw,
Bieskau/Altstett is part of Kreis/district/powiat
Leobschütz/Glubczyce.

Both of the towns are located in Schlesien/Silesia/Slask.
--
Kind regards
Henning Boettcher
Switzerland
http://homepage.sunrise.ch/homepage/boettche/
(universally applicable hints/German language only/ last review:
Apr.2007)

Hugh Watkins

Re: Nofutia?

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 30 okt 2007 23:17:04

clifto wrote:

aspidistra wrote:

The old German characters had a long s, I know that much. There is certainly
no such name as "Nofutia" in any language. You can bet it says Rosalie or
Rosalia on the grave marker. I could tell if there was a photo of it.
Probably it's hard to read because it's chipped, darkened or otherwise aged.


I posted them. The esses are long, and maybe it's the light, but this looks
different from the esses to me. Couldn't find any Nosutias either. So
to see the HUGE images (1.5 meg each):

http://www.clifto.com/stone1.jpg
http://www.clifto.com/stone2.jpg

I'll post smaller images soon, but figured to start I'd keep the resolution.
The pictures aren't all that great.



only 17 seconds to get on broadband

the type is called black face in England


FRAKTUR in german
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q ... a=N&tab=wi

http://www.library.yale.edu/cataloging/ ... raktur.htm

note the "f" with out the crossing as "s" not shown except as part of
"ss" eg in West Prussia (Westpreußen)

Hugh W


--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

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