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Jim Elbrecht

image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Jim Elbrecht » 12 aug 2007 20:02:56

Could SKS with access to the 1881 census images send me the image for;
Class: RG11; Piece: 2555; Folio: 100; Page: 13; Line: ; GSU roll:
1341616.
[the only hit for Ann Jemima Painter on ancestry]

These folks are pretty distant relations, and I would have gone with
just the ancestry transcriptions which I get with the US subscription-
but the way they are listed makes me really curious;
[as far as I know the farm- Furzen Leaze, in Cirencester- was owned by
Richard and Anne Jemima (Whetmath) Painter - Martha was his mom. the
other names are unfamiliar]
Alice Hobbs 17
Edith Elizabeth Lord 5
Ethel Mary Lord 7
Ann Jemima Painter 50
Martha Painter 83
Richard Painter 36
David Parker 20

Thanks-
Jim

Jim Elbrecht

Re: image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Jim Elbrecht » 12 aug 2007 20:07:23

Forgot to mention- my email address is a real one- 'reply to' will
reach me.
[IMO- spam is a small price to pay for being able to be found easily.]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:02:56 -0400, Jim Elbrecht <elbrecht@email.com>
wrote:

Could SKS with access to the 1881 census images send me the image for;
Class: RG11; Piece: 2555; Folio: 100; Page: 13; Line: ; GSU roll:
1341616.
[the only hit for Ann Jemima Painter on ancestry]

These folks are pretty distant relations, and I would have gone with
just the ancestry transcriptions which I get with the US subscription-
but the way they are listed makes me really curious;
[as far as I know the farm- Furzen Leaze, in Cirencester- was owned by
Richard and Anne Jemima (Whetmath) Painter - Martha was his mom. the
other names are unfamiliar]
Alice Hobbs 17
Edith Elizabeth Lord 5
Ethel Mary Lord 7
Ann Jemima Painter 50
Martha Painter 83
Richard Painter 36
David Parker 20

Thanks-
Jim

Jim Elbrecht

Re: image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Jim Elbrecht » 12 aug 2007 22:10:57

I got it.

Thanks Marge!

It looks like the names got jumbled by the transcriber, not the
enumerator. Makes more sense this way.

[and of course every bit of knowledge brings a new question- I see
the next 2 families are enumerated at "Furzen Leaze Cottage"- one
family head is a shepherd, the next is "ag laborer'. Would these
probably have been employees of the Furzen Leaze Farm - or just
renters?

Thanks-
Jim

Hugh Watkins

Re: image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 12 aug 2007 22:40:37

Jim Elbrecht wrote:

I got it.

Thanks Marge!

It looks like the names got jumbled by the transcriber, not the
enumerator. Makes more sense this way.

[and of course every bit of knowledge brings a new question- I see
the next 2 families are enumerated at "Furzen Leaze Cottage"- one
family head is a shepherd, the next is "ag laborer'. Would these
probably have been employees of the Furzen Leaze Farm - or just
renters?

usually tied cottages so both
you would need a local local history expert to find out more


Hugh W


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Jim Elbrecht

Re: image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Jim Elbrecht » 12 aug 2007 23:00:29

Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
-snip-
[and of course every bit of knowledge brings a new question- I see
the next 2 families are enumerated at "Furzen Leaze Cottage"- one
family head is a shepherd, the next is "ag laborer'. Would these
probably have been employees of the Furzen Leaze Farm - or just
renters?

usually tied cottages so both
you would need a local local history expert to find out more

Thanks Hugh,
Now that I've taken the time to read the whole page- Furzen Leaze Farm
was apparently 230 acres and Richard had 6 men and 3 boys working for
him.

That answers what I was wondering regardless of which farm the folks
in the cottages were working for. The Painters were apparently folks
of some means.

Jim

Hugh Watkins

Re: image of 1881 census

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 12 aug 2007 23:21:04

Jim Elbrecht wrote:

Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:


Jim Elbrecht wrote:

-snip-

[and of course every bit of knowledge brings a new question- I see
the next 2 families are enumerated at "Furzen Leaze Cottage"- one
family head is a shepherd, the next is "ag laborer'. Would these
probably have been employees of the Furzen Leaze Farm - or just
renters?

usually tied cottages so both
you would need a local local history expert to find out more


Thanks Hugh,
Now that I've taken the time to read the whole page- Furzen Leaze Farm
was apparently 230 acres and Richard had 6 men and 3 boys working for
him.

That answers what I was wondering regardless of which farm the folks
in the cottages were working for. The Painters were apparently folks
of some means.

or had a mortgage
I have seen a hint of one of mine with a nineteenth century mortgage

In 1888 Robert Rickards bought Usk Priory from the mortgagees of Thomas
Watkins of Highmead in the parish of Llanfair Cilgedin, Monmouthshire.

http://www.archivesnetworkwales.info/cg ... %20watkins

Watkins, Thomas b: 4 MAY 1821 in Abergavenny d: 28 MAR 1879 in Highmead
Farm
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? ... 6&id=I0360

I assumed the farm was sold by then
becasue in 1881 another family is in it
perhaps the BUNNING rented it

just another piece for the family historians jigsaw puzzle

do read some Thomas Hardy to get a picture of rural life

Hugh W






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