Question about the the FHLC

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Michael Horowitz

Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Michael Horowitz » 09 mar 2007 19:11:32

I went to the local FHC several years ago, and recall going to a
catalog (on CD) which showed me their microfilm holdings (just the
microform index number).

I got the impression from GOOGLe results that same catalog was on line
at Familysearch.com. However, searching for 'Marriage' in 'Subject
Search", I don't see what I expected. I would expect to see at least
each state mentioned, probably breaking it down first by county, then
by year; but what I see is a list of 41 publications with interesting
names like "Cross-cousin marriages of Virginia".

I must be approaching the FHLC incorrectly, thinks I.

I notice it alludes to using the LOC subject headings, so I search and
find mention of the "Red Books", and the implication they are on-line
at http://catalog.loc.gov/ , which leads me to "the authorities" at
http://authorities.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pweb ... PAGE=First

Again, searching for "marriage" doesn't give me what I'm looking for.

Can someone please suggest how I should be using these sources to get
the correct subject heading for microfilm, NY, Marriage, 1933? - Mike

Hugh Watkins

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 09 mar 2007 20:18:49

Michael Horowitz wrote:

I went to the local FHC several years ago, and recall going to a
catalog (on CD) which showed me their microfilm holdings (just the
microform index number).

I got the impression from GOOGLe results that same catalog was on line
at Familysearch.com. However, searching for 'Marriage' in 'Subject
Search", I don't see what I expected. I would expect to see at least
each state mentioned, probably breaking it down first by county, then
by year; but what I see is a list of 41 publications with interesting
names like "Cross-cousin marriages of Virginia".

I must be approaching the FHLC incorrectly, thinks I.

I notice it alludes to using the LOC subject headings, so I search and
find mention of the "Red Books", and the implication they are on-line
at http://catalog.loc.gov/ , which leads me to "the authorities" at
http://authorities.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pweb ... PAGE=First

Again, searching for "marriage" doesn't give me what I'm looking for.

Can someone please suggest how I should be using these sources to get
the correct subject heading for microfilm, NY, Marriage, 1933? - Mike

go in to the Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

New York City
New York, Bronx, New York City
New York, Kings, New York City
New York, New York, New York City
New York, Queens, New York City
New York, Richmond, New York City


then church records
looking at vrious cut of dates

Church records, 1823-1965 Reformed Church at East 68th Street
(Manhattan, New York)


the click in the middele of the line:-

For a printable version of this record click here then click your
browser's Print button.

Title
Church records, 1823-1965

Authors
Reformed Church at East 68th Street (Manhattan, New York) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilm of records at archives, Reformed Church in America, New
Brunswick, New Jersey.
Text is in German.

Subjects
New York, New York (City) - Church records

Format
Manuscript (On Film)

Language
German

Publication
Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1994

Physical
on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Baptisms 1823-1846 Church register (christ. & marr.) 1853-1865 Church
register (bapt.) -- cont. 1883-1917 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 1927968 Items 5-7 ]
Church register (bapt.) -- continues 1917-1964 Funerals 1902-1945
Funerals 1946-1965 Weddings 1880-1963 - FHL US/CAN Film [ 1927969 Items
1-4 ]

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

========================
that is the world wide structure of the catalogue

i saw no Civil registrtaion
if not there ask the locals in NY Public Library for example

Hugh W


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ecunningham

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av ecunningham » 09 mar 2007 20:43:17

Hugh Watkins wrote:

i saw no Civil registrtaion

Hugh W: That's because they are listed as vital records.
ecunningham@att.net

Michael Horowitz

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Michael Horowitz » 09 mar 2007 22:23:53

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:18:49 +0000, Hugh Watkins
<hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:


go in to the Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

New York City
New York, Bronx, New York City
New York, Kings, New York City
New York, New York, New York City
New York, Queens, New York City
New York, Richmond, New York City

Hugh W


Hugh - thanks; I'll spend the weekend poking at it.
Did you notice these indicies:

New York, Kings, Brooklyn - Vital records
New York, Kings - Vital records

I know the Burough of Brooklyn and the County of Kings are
geographically the same. Any idea for the rationale for two sets of
records or would I find that either index would take me to the same
records? Two ways of refering to the same thing? - MIke

Michael Horowitz

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Michael Horowitz » 09 mar 2007 23:26:36

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:18:49 +0000, Hugh Watkins
<hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Michael Horowitz wrote:

... I notice it alludes to using the LOC subject headings, ...

Can someone please suggest how I should be using these sources to get
the correct subject heading for microfilm, NY, Marriage, 1933? - Mike

And Hugh replies
go in to the Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

New York City
New York, Bronx, New York City
New York, Kings, New York City
New York, New York, New York City
New York, Queens, New York City
New York, Richmond, New York City

Hugh W


And Mike returns:

Followed your suggestion and ended up with what I hoped were LOC
subject headings:

New York, Kings, Brooklyn - Vital records
New York, Kings - Vital records

So I go back to authorities.loc.gov and entered "New York, Kings,
Brooklyn - Vital records" . Got a whole lot of records, but without
going thru 100 pages of records, I don't thinks we're looking at LOC
subject headings. Thoughts?

Second - If I can't input "New York, Kings, Brooklyn - Vital records"
into 'authorities.loc.gov' how do I use it? I think I was hoping it
would arm me with a film number with which I could approach the local
FHC - Mike

Huntersglenn

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 10 mar 2007 00:09:56

From the home page for familysearch.org, select "Library" tab
From that page, select "Family History Library Catalog" tab
Under the search options, select Place Search
Then search for Brooklyn, with New York for the 'Part of' field
You'll have a result for Brooklyn, Kings, New York. click on this

The next page will show all of the record categories that they have.
Select Vital Records
The next page will show all of their vital records categories
Select Marriage Certificates (Brooklyn, New York) 1866-1937
The next page will tell you all about this film series. At the upper
right hand corner of the page is a button "View Film Notes". Click here
You'll now see all of the film numbers, and what years each film covers.

Hope that helps,
Cathy

Hugh Watkins

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Hugh Watkins » 10 mar 2007 02:17:18

Michael Horowitz wrote:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:18:49 +0000, Hugh Watkins
hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:



go in to the Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

New York City
New York, Bronx, New York City
New York, Kings, New York City
New York, New York, New York City
New York, Queens, New York City
New York, Richmond, New York City

Hugh W



Hugh - thanks; I'll spend the weekend poking at it.
Did you notice these indicies:

New York, Kings, Brooklyn - Vital records
New York, Kings - Vital records

I know the Burough of Brooklyn and the County of Kings are
geographically the same. Any idea for the rationale for two sets of
records or would I find that either index would take me to the same
records? Two ways of refering to the same thing? - MIke

no
a question of english versus US or GSU terminlogy

sorry about that my mistake

BTW I saw GSU filming parish registers of Wales starting in October 2006
and Monmouthshire and you can see how far they have got by making
searches for each parish

Hugh W

--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Michael Horowitz

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Michael Horowitz » 10 mar 2007 02:22:15

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:09:56 -0500, Huntersglenn
<huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:

Hope that helps,
Cathy


Sure did - thanks, Mike

Huntersglenn

Re: Question about the the FHLC

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 10 mar 2007 02:38:51

Michael Horowitz wrote:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:09:56 -0500, Huntersglenn
huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote:


Hope that helps,
Cathy



Sure did - thanks, Mike

I wish they'd change it so that the page with the film numbers came up
first, rather than making the searcher have to go through yet another
step to see what's there worth ordering.

Good luck with finding the years you want.

Cathy

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