Does anybody have access to this please ?
Unfortunately the uncle I am looking for has a common name - ALFRED CLARKE
I can't remember exactly what details come up on SDGW, and I don't even know
if it is the same on the computerised version.
My man was born in Bedfield Suffolk in 1896 if that is any help.
Any assistance greatly appreciated
Mike
Soldiers died in the Great War
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MikeS
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
"Mike Woolnough" <mike.woolnough@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Hi Mike,
I don't think this is your man. I have found your Alfred in the 1901 census
as well as the Alfred who died in WW1 in an on line family tree. Parents
are different. Following is the information I have found. Hope it helps.
1901 England Census 1901 England Census
Name: Alfred Clarke
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's name: Harry
Mother's name: Anna
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfield, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Bedfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedfield
Town: Bedfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Dennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Clarke 5
Anna Clarke 37
Arthur Clarke 8
Daisy Clarke 3 months
Emma Clarke 2
Harry Clarke 38
William Clarke 12
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1767; Folio: 29; Page: 9.
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1901 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The
Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Census Returns of England
and Wales, 1901. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK
(TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1901. Data imaged from the National
Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the
accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information
provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or
education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National
Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. Infringement of the above condition
may result in legal action.
There is a family tree at this site which implies that the Alfred Clark who
died in WWI is not the same as your person listed above.
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? ... I103990407
kessling family of pa
Entries: 104 Updated: 2005-06-25 19:46:17 UTC (Sat)
sally kessling skessling@aol.com
ID: I103990407
Name: Alfred Charles CLARKE
Given Name: Alfred Charles
Surname: Clarke
Sex: M
Birth: 04 September 1895 in England
Death: 1918 in WWI Great Britain Soldier
Father: William Walton CLARKE b: 2 August 1858 in Burbage,England
Mother: Eliza WOODS b: 1861 in England
Mike
news:eH0vh.61588$v4.17199@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
Does anybody have access to this please ?
Unfortunately the uncle I am looking for has a common name - ALFRED CLARKE
I can't remember exactly what details come up on SDGW, and I don't even
know if it is the same on the computerised version.
My man was born in Bedfield Suffolk in 1896 if that is any help.
Hi Mike,
I don't think this is your man. I have found your Alfred in the 1901 census
as well as the Alfred who died in WW1 in an on line family tree. Parents
are different. Following is the information I have found. Hope it helps.
1901 England Census 1901 England Census
Name: Alfred Clarke
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's name: Harry
Mother's name: Anna
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfield, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Bedfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedfield
Town: Bedfield
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Hoxne
Sub-registration district: Dennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Clarke 5
Anna Clarke 37
Arthur Clarke 8
Daisy Clarke 3 months
Emma Clarke 2
Harry Clarke 38
William Clarke 12
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1767; Folio: 29; Page: 9.
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1901 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The
Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Census Returns of England
and Wales, 1901. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK
(TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1901. Data imaged from the National
Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the
accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information
provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or
education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National
Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. Infringement of the above condition
may result in legal action.
There is a family tree at this site which implies that the Alfred Clark who
died in WWI is not the same as your person listed above.
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? ... I103990407
kessling family of pa
Entries: 104 Updated: 2005-06-25 19:46:17 UTC (Sat)
sally kessling skessling@aol.com
ID: I103990407
Name: Alfred Charles CLARKE
Given Name: Alfred Charles
Surname: Clarke
Sex: M
Birth: 04 September 1895 in England
Death: 1918 in WWI Great Britain Soldier
Father: William Walton CLARKE b: 2 August 1858 in Burbage,England
Mother: Eliza WOODS b: 1861 in England
Mike
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Nigel Bufton
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
As requested:
Regiment, Corps etc
Royal Army Service Corps
Battalion/etc
Surname
Clarke
Christian Name
Alfred
Initials
A
Born
Beafield, Suffolk
Enlisted
Lowestoft
Residence
Aldeburgh
Rank
PRIVATE
Number
M2/130717
Died Date
07/01/1916
Died How
Died of wounds
Theatre of War
Balkans
Nigel
"Mike Woolnough" <mike.woolnough@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:eH0vh.61588$v4.17199@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
Regiment, Corps etc
Royal Army Service Corps
Battalion/etc
Surname
Clarke
Christian Name
Alfred
Initials
A
Born
Beafield, Suffolk
Enlisted
Lowestoft
Residence
Aldeburgh
Rank
PRIVATE
Number
M2/130717
Died Date
07/01/1916
Died How
Died of wounds
Theatre of War
Balkans
Nigel
"Mike Woolnough" <mike.woolnough@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:eH0vh.61588$v4.17199@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
Does anybody have access to this please ?
Unfortunately the uncle I am looking for has a common name - ALFRED CLARKE
I can't remember exactly what details come up on SDGW, and I don't even
know if it is the same on the computerised version.
My man was born in Bedfield Suffolk in 1896 if that is any help.
Any assistance greatly appreciated
Mike
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Lesley Robertson
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
"Nigel Bufton" <nigel@bufton.org> schreef in bericht
news:45bd2fd5$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
His unit was 17th Motor Ambulance Convoy. Age 21, died 7 Jan 1916, son of
Harry & Anna Maria Clarke of Folly Cottages, Aldringham. Native of
Aldeburgh, Suffolk.
He's in the Salonika (Lembet Rd) Military Cemetary.
If you go to FindMyPast http://www.findmypast.com/, you can look among the
military records and see whether he had any medals, etc. BTW, they also have
SWDGW.
Lesley Robertson
news:45bd2fd5$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
As requested:
Regiment, Corps etc
Royal Army Service Corps
And from the info Nigel provided, the CWGC gives a bit more.
His unit was 17th Motor Ambulance Convoy. Age 21, died 7 Jan 1916, son of
Harry & Anna Maria Clarke of Folly Cottages, Aldringham. Native of
Aldeburgh, Suffolk.
He's in the Salonika (Lembet Rd) Military Cemetary.
If you go to FindMyPast http://www.findmypast.com/, you can look among the
military records and see whether he had any medals, etc. BTW, they also have
SWDGW.
Lesley Robertson
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Mike Woolnough
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
Here goes with my fourth attempt at replying today.......
It seems that I have been replying to people rather than the group
Thank you so much for all your help - there are some very kind people on
here.
MikeS - The Emma Clarke was my grandmother.
I am fascinated that Alfred died in the Balkans as this is a little-known
theatre of WWI and will give me some interesting research.
One more question - Alfred does not appear in the BMD index - is there
something seperate for military causualities, does anybody know ?
Many thanks again
Mike
It seems that I have been replying to people rather than the group
Thank you so much for all your help - there are some very kind people on
here.
MikeS - The Emma Clarke was my grandmother.
I am fascinated that Alfred died in the Balkans as this is a little-known
theatre of WWI and will give me some interesting research.
One more question - Alfred does not appear in the BMD index - is there
something seperate for military causualities, does anybody know ?
Many thanks again
Mike
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jj206
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
Mike Woolnough wrote:
Hi Mike,
The BMD Index is just a list of info from GRO, so it looks like
either the GRO did not get a death certificate from the Balkans,
his commanding officer, or perhaps the GRO has a typo somewhere.
I did find this webpage at the GRO website that should be of
interest to you and can give you a place to start asking the GRO
what happened.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/death ... seasdeath/
Read it all and then write to the address at the end if you wish.
That is my suggestion. Hopefully they will reply back in due course
since their records seem incomplete.
Jonathan
Thank you so much for all your help - there are some very kind people on
here.
MikeS - The Emma Clarke was my grandmother.
I am fascinated that Alfred died in the Balkans as this is a little-known
theatre of WWI and will give me some interesting research.
One more question - Alfred does not appear in the BMD index - is there
something seperate for military causualities, does anybody know ?
Many thanks again
Mike
Hi Mike,
The BMD Index is just a list of info from GRO, so it looks like
either the GRO did not get a death certificate from the Balkans,
his commanding officer, or perhaps the GRO has a typo somewhere.
I did find this webpage at the GRO website that should be of
interest to you and can give you a place to start asking the GRO
what happened.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/death ... seasdeath/
Read it all and then write to the address at the end if you wish.
That is my suggestion. Hopefully they will reply back in due course
since their records seem incomplete.
Jonathan
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Hugh Watkins
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
Lesley Robertson wrote:
Salonika was a battle and a military hospital
from google
The events in Salonika and Macedonia 1916-1918, including some lengthy
first-hand accounts.
http://www.1914-1918.net/salonika.htm - 47k -
Thessaloniki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Population, 607987 source (2006). Metropolitan area population, 2395220.
Area, 17.8 km² · Population density, 20449 /km² ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thessaloniki - 179k -
British Salonika Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The British Salonika Army was a British field army formed during World
War I. The Army was formed in Salonika in October 1915 from the British
XVI Corps to ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Salonika_Army - 14k -
Salonika Campaign Society
Salonika Campaign Society. History of the Salonika Campaign · Select
Bibliography · About the Society · The New Mosquito · Annual Meeting ...
http://www.salonika.freeserve.co.uk/ - 3k -
A Nurse at Salonika – the Diary of Mrs Edith Moor
From her ship anchored in the harbour, the port of Salonika presented a
striking ... A tug came out of Salonika for us, and we left the ship abo
n October 1915, a combined Franco-British force of some two large
brigades was landed at Salonika (today called Thessalonika) at the
request of the Greek Prime Minister. The objective was to help the Serbs
in their fight against Bulgarian aggression. But the expedition arrived
too late, the Serbs having been beaten before they landed. It was
decided to keep the force in place for future operations, even against
Greek opposition. The Greek Chief of the General Staff in Athens had
told them " You will be driven into the sea, and you will not have time
even to cry for mercy" (Some Greek factions, including King Constantine,
were pro-German). The outcome of the Gallipoli campaign was in the
balance and most shipping in the area was involved so they really had no
choice
The final assault began along the whole front on 15 Sep 1918; the
British being engaged in the Lake Doiran area. This Battle was really on
the 18th and 19th September 1918 and was a disaster for the British
Divisions. They had to frontally assault 'Pip Ridge' which was a 2000
foot high heavily defended mountain ridge with fortresses built on some
of the higher mountains, notably Grand Couronne. (This was what the
Bulgarians had been working on in the first months of 1916 and early
1917.) They sustained very heavy casualties.
from Issue 46 of " I Was There" published 1938/9 " The Battle of Doiran
is now a forgotten episode of the Great War, overshadowed by the doings
of Haig in France and Allenby in Palestine. There was no full
contemporary account of the Battle in any British Newspaper. Sir George
Milne's dispatch was not published and did not appear in the Times until
January 23rd 1919, and then only in truncated form. The very name of the
battle is unknown to most. Yet, in singularity of horror and in tragedy
of defeated heroism, it is unique among the records of British arms. The
real work of the assault was entrusted to the men of the 22nd and 26th
Divisions, who were to attack the Doiran hills, co-operating with the
Cretan Division of the Greek Army and a regiment of unreliable Zouaves.
my uncle survived
Hugh W
--
a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/
Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks
old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
"Nigel Bufton" <nigel@bufton.org> schreef in bericht
news:45bd2fd5$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
As requested:
Regiment, Corps etc
Royal Army Service Corps
And from the info Nigel provided, the CWGC gives a bit more.
His unit was 17th Motor Ambulance Convoy. Age 21, died 7 Jan 1916, son of
Harry & Anna Maria Clarke of Folly Cottages, Aldringham. Native of
Aldeburgh, Suffolk.
He's in the Salonika (Lembet Rd) Military Cemetary.
If you go to FindMyPast http://www.findmypast.com/, you can look among the
military records and see whether he had any medals, etc. BTW, they also have
SWDGW.
Salonika was a battle and a military hospital
from google
The events in Salonika and Macedonia 1916-1918, including some lengthy
first-hand accounts.
http://www.1914-1918.net/salonika.htm - 47k -
Thessaloniki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Population, 607987 source (2006). Metropolitan area population, 2395220.
Area, 17.8 km² · Population density, 20449 /km² ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thessaloniki - 179k -
British Salonika Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The British Salonika Army was a British field army formed during World
War I. The Army was formed in Salonika in October 1915 from the British
XVI Corps to ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Salonika_Army - 14k -
Salonika Campaign Society
Salonika Campaign Society. History of the Salonika Campaign · Select
Bibliography · About the Society · The New Mosquito · Annual Meeting ...
http://www.salonika.freeserve.co.uk/ - 3k -
A Nurse at Salonika – the Diary of Mrs Edith Moor
From her ship anchored in the harbour, the port of Salonika presented a
striking ... A tug came out of Salonika for us, and we left the ship abo
n October 1915, a combined Franco-British force of some two large
brigades was landed at Salonika (today called Thessalonika) at the
request of the Greek Prime Minister. The objective was to help the Serbs
in their fight against Bulgarian aggression. But the expedition arrived
too late, the Serbs having been beaten before they landed. It was
decided to keep the force in place for future operations, even against
Greek opposition. The Greek Chief of the General Staff in Athens had
told them " You will be driven into the sea, and you will not have time
even to cry for mercy" (Some Greek factions, including King Constantine,
were pro-German). The outcome of the Gallipoli campaign was in the
balance and most shipping in the area was involved so they really had no
choice
The final assault began along the whole front on 15 Sep 1918; the
British being engaged in the Lake Doiran area. This Battle was really on
the 18th and 19th September 1918 and was a disaster for the British
Divisions. They had to frontally assault 'Pip Ridge' which was a 2000
foot high heavily defended mountain ridge with fortresses built on some
of the higher mountains, notably Grand Couronne. (This was what the
Bulgarians had been working on in the first months of 1916 and early
1917.) They sustained very heavy casualties.
from Issue 46 of " I Was There" published 1938/9 " The Battle of Doiran
is now a forgotten episode of the Great War, overshadowed by the doings
of Haig in France and Allenby in Palestine. There was no full
contemporary account of the Battle in any British Newspaper. Sir George
Milne's dispatch was not published and did not appear in the Times until
January 23rd 1919, and then only in truncated form. The very name of the
battle is unknown to most. Yet, in singularity of horror and in tragedy
of defeated heroism, it is unique among the records of British arms. The
real work of the assault was entrusted to the men of the 22nd and 26th
Divisions, who were to attack the Doiran hills, co-operating with the
Cretan Division of the Greek Army and a regiment of unreliable Zouaves.
my uncle survived
Hugh W
--
a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/
Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks
old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
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Mike Woolnough
Re: Soldiers died in the Great War
I just found this:
In Dec 1915 the British element fought a battle at Kosturino, north of Lake
Doiran, after withdrawing from Serbia. After this there was little action
except for occasional air-raids on Salonika.
On January 7th 1916 German machines flew over and caused eighteen
casualties.
It would seem that Alfred was one of these unlucky lads.
In Dec 1915 the British element fought a battle at Kosturino, north of Lake
Doiran, after withdrawing from Serbia. After this there was little action
except for occasional air-raids on Salonika.
On January 7th 1916 German machines flew over and caused eighteen
casualties.
It would seem that Alfred was one of these unlucky lads.