Need software to convert paf to GEDCOM on freeBSD 4.11

[Charlie Sorsby]

Hello,

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
gedcom file.

The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
so I'm stumped.

Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
sincerely appreciated.

Updating my operating system is not an option.

Thank you for any help.
--
Charlie Sorsby
[email protected]
Edgewood, NM 87015
USA

[Robert Melson]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

Hello,

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
gedcom file.

The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
so I'm stumped.

Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
sincerely appreciated.

Updating my operating system is not an option.

Thank you for any help.

Charlie,

At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.

Are you certain the file is a .paf file? Can you open it with
ed or vi or, shudder, emacs? It's possible it's a text file in
gedcom format and just renamed. If, in fact, it's in some sort
of proprietary format, it might be worth your effort to load wine
or qemu or one of the several dos emulation systems. Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you. None of the commonly available genealogy
programs on FBSD (ftree, gramps, phpGedView) will, so far as I know,
read a .paf file, tho' all WILL read gedcoms.

You know 4.11 is reaching it's EOL, do you not?

Bob Melson

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

[Dale DePriest]

See if this helps:
http://genealogysoftwareguide.com/linux ... -software/

Dale

Charlie Sorsby wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
gedcom file.

The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
so I'm stumped.

Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
sincerely appreciated.

Updating my operating system is not an option.

Thank you for any help.

--
_ _ Dale DePriest
/`) _ // http://users.cwnet.com/dalede
o/_/ (_(_X_(` For GPS and GPS/PDAs

[Arild Jarle Kompelien]

You can import paf-files to the program RootsMagic.

[Robert Melson]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Arild Kompelien) writes:

You can import paf-files to the program RootsMagic.
--
Postet fra DIS-Norges tjeneste Slektsforum
https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/

But RootsMagic is a windows program and will not run on FreeBSD
without some sort of emulation in place.

It occurred to me, after my previous reply on this thread, that
Charlie might want to go back to the person who sent him the
file and ask him/her/it to (re)send the information after
exporting it as a gedcom file. It's been a while since I last
used any of the Gatesware genealogy programs, but ISTR that
exporting as a gedcom is one of the "File" options on PAF. Once
he has the file in .ged format, he's home free and can use
Gramps or ftree or even lifelines - if he's that much of a
masochist.

Bob Melson

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

[Robert M. Riches Jr.]

On 2007-01-18, Charlie Sorsby <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
gedcom file.

The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
so I'm stumped.

Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
sincerely appreciated.

Updating my operating system is not an option.

Thank you for any help.

Can you run Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) on your system?
Is the .paf file using a recent PAF format version? If so,
get Wine version 0.9.29, (download and) install PAF 5.2.
There is an option to export to GEDCOM. See the PAF 5 AppDB
page for more info: (I'm a maintainer of the page.)

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1706

Or, if you'd prefer, email me the .paf file. I'll use PAF
5.2 under Wine 0.9.29 (or later if available) on Linux to
convert to GEDCOM (5.5, IIRC), then I'll email the GEDCOM
file back to you.

HTH

--
Robert Riches
[email protected]
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

[TomAlciere]

Robert Melson wrote:

Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you.

That would compromise confidential family history info.
DON'T DO IT.

If it's a PAF file, open it with PAF and export it as a GEDCOM file.

[Hugh Watkins]

TomAlciere wrote:

Robert Melson wrote:


Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you.


That would compromise confidential family history info.
DON'T DO IT.

If it's a PAF file, open it with PAF and export it as a GEDCOM file.

IDIOT Tom !

try reading the OP
most family history is widely nown and compiled from public data

to the OP just chose carefully who you allow to help you
surely yours is not the onlt computer amongst your friends and rellies



Hugh W

--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

[Robert Melson]

In article <[email protected]>,
"TomAlciere" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:

Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you.

That would compromise confidential family history info.
DON'T DO IT.

If it's a PAF file, open it with PAF and export it as a GEDCOM file.

But, Tom, the OP indicated he's running FreeBSD - a non-Windows
operating system. Neither PAF nor any of the other Gatesware
genealogy programs run on *BSD without some form of emulation.
Barring an emulator of some sort, the OP can't run PAF, so his
choices are limited to (1) finding a Gatesware box he can borrow
and on which he can load PAF, (2) asking his relative to export
the file in gedcom format and resend it (but, he sez, she's been
unable to do that), or (3) asking SKS to convert it. Read the
original post carefully.

Sheesh!

Bob Melson

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

[T.M. Sommers]

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.

Admissions are statements against interest. The use of FreeBSD
is not something to be admitted, but something to be stated.

At any rate, FreeBMD uses FreeBSD, too.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- [email protected] -- AB2SB

[Robert Melson]

In article <[email protected]>,
"T.M. Sommers" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.

Admissions are statements against interest. The use of FreeBSD
is not something to be admitted, but something to be stated.

At any rate, FreeBMD uses FreeBSD, too.

Errr, would you then prefer "confessed"? As in, "I confess

I've used FBSD since 2.1.7"?

Smilin' Ol' Bob

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

[T.M. Sommers]

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
"T.M. Sommers" <[email protected]> writes:
Robert Melson wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?

At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.

Admissions are statements against interest. The use of FreeBSD
is not something to be admitted, but something to be stated.

At any rate, FreeBMD uses FreeBSD, too.

Errr, would you then prefer "confessed"?

The use of FreeBSD is not a sin, so there is no need to confess.
Windows, on the other hand ...

As in, "I confess
I've used FBSD since 2.1.7"?

2.1.5 here.

--
Thomas M. Sommers -- [email protected] -- AB2SB

[Di Maloney]

Hi Charlie,

PAF produces .GED files - ask who ever sent it to you to resend it as a
gedcom file.
If they can't do that, I would be happy to convert it to gedcom for you.

--
Di Maloney
Mornington Peninsula
Victoria Australia
"Charlie Sorsby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Hello,
|
| Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
| gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?
|
| My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
| but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
| gedcom file.
|
| The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
| but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
| so I'm stumped.
|
| Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
| build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
| sincerely appreciated.
|
| Updating my operating system is not an option.
|
| Thank you for any help.
| --
| Charlie Sorsby
| [email protected]
| Edgewood, NM 87015
| USA

[Rebel Lion]

Di Maloney wrote:

Hi Charlie,

PAF produces .GED files - ask who ever sent it to you to resend it as a
gedcom file.
If they can't do that, I would be happy to convert it to gedcom for you.

Earlier versions of gramps ie the below one versions did convert. I did
it when I moved from windows to linux. The later versions don't have the
option unfortunately. I might be an option to try installing an older
version if you can't get it sent as a gedcom

[Charlie Sorsby]

In article <[email protected]>,
Robert Melson <[email protected]> wrote:
= In article <[email protected]>,
= "T.M. Sommers" <[email protected]> writes:
= > Robert Melson wrote:
= >> In article <[email protected]>,
= >> [email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
= >>
= >>>Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
= >>>gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?
= >>
= >> At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.
= >
= > Admissions are statements against interest. The use of FreeBSD
= > is not something to be admitted, but something to be stated.
= >
= > At any rate, FreeBMD uses FreeBSD, too.
= >
= Errr, would you then prefer "confessed"? As in, "I confess
= I've used FBSD since 2.1.7"?

Got you on that! I started with 2.0.5!
--
Charlie Sorsby
[email protected]
Edgewood, NM 87015
USA

[TomAlciere]

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
"TomAlciere" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:

Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you.

That would compromise confidential family history info.
DON'T DO IT.

If it's a PAF file, open it with PAF and export it as a GEDCOM file.


But, Tom, the OP indicated he's running FreeBSD - a non-Windows
operating system. Neither PAF nor any of the other Gatesware
genealogy programs run on *BSD without some form of emulation.
Barring an emulator of some sort, the OP can't run PAF, so his
choices are limited to (1) finding a Gatesware box he can borrow
and on which he can load PAF, (2) asking his relative to export
the file in gedcom format and resend it (but, he sez, she's been
unable to do that), or (3) asking SKS to convert it. Read the
original post carefully.

Sheesh!

Bob Melson

Well, I didn't know what FreeBSD was and therefore, I didn't know that
part was important.

Unlike morons who would ask what FreeBSD was, I went and looked it up.

Now I know, and now I am smarter.

[Jeff Wiseman]

T.M. Sommers wrote:

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
"T.M. Sommers" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?


At last! Another admitted FBSD user!.


Admissions are statements against interest. The use of FreeBSD is
not something to be admitted, but something to be stated.

At any rate, FreeBMD uses FreeBSD, too.


Errr, would you then prefer "confessed"?


The use of FreeBSD is not a sin, so there is no need to confess.
Windows, on the other hand ...

Ahh, yes! If you ever want to see the "Gates of Dell"...

As far as using computers on this earth goes, there is no such
thing as the "Windows of Heaven"


--
Jeff Wiseman
to reply, just remove ALLTHESPAM

[Robert Melson]

In article <[email protected]>,
"TomAlciere" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
"TomAlciere" <[email protected]> writes:

Robert Melson wrote:

Failing that,
perhaps one of the folks here would accept the file via email and
convert it for you.

That would compromise confidential family history info.
DON'T DO IT.

If it's a PAF file, open it with PAF and export it as a GEDCOM file.


But, Tom, the OP indicated he's running FreeBSD - a non-Windows
operating system. Neither PAF nor any of the other Gatesware
genealogy programs run on *BSD without some form of emulation.
Barring an emulator of some sort, the OP can't run PAF, so his
choices are limited to (1) finding a Gatesware box he can borrow
and on which he can load PAF, (2) asking his relative to export
the file in gedcom format and resend it (but, he sez, she's been
unable to do that), or (3) asking SKS to convert it. Read the
original post carefully.

Sheesh!

Bob Melson


Well, I didn't know what FreeBSD was and therefore, I didn't know that
part was important.

Unlike morons who would ask what FreeBSD was, I went and looked it up.

Now I know, and now I am smarter.

The only stupid question is the one you don't ask, IMO.

Bob Melson

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer

[Kerry Raymond]

The only stupid question is the one you don't ask, IMO.

Except perhaps for questions about buying a "used" Roots Magic registration
key. Such questions appear best unasked

Kerry

[Kerry Raymond]

Ahh, yes! If you ever want to see the "Gates of Dell"...

As far as using computers on this earth goes, there is no such thing as
the "Windows of Heaven"

I have been a user/programmer on various flavours of Unix since 1978, but I
personally have a Windows laptop.

I love Unix as a robust operating system and as a software development
environment, but Windows is slicker when it comes to GUIs (even if they take
a lot of the ideas from Apple), there are more applications available for it
(especially for family history), and they do have a reasonably
well-integrated set of standard applications (Mail, Calendar, WWW, Word).
For a lot of everyday stuff (mail, www, word processing), Windows is
reasonably productive.

But there are some tasks that Windows does not do so well. This is why I
have Cygwin on my Windows box so I can switch into the world of Unix for
tasks that aren't so easily done under Windows (like running sed/awk scripts
over GEDCOM files to fix problems). We also run our WWW server at home using
one of the Redhat Linux versions.

The problem with Unix that keeps it from being a real theat commercially to
Microsoft is its splintering into so many variants and into so many
communities. Sure there is a massive open source community out there, but
it's working to thousands of personal goals, pulling things in many
different directions. Microsoft simply by being a company can set
directions, goals, priorities in a way that an open source community cannot.
If a Microsoft employee disagrees with the company line, they can go
elsewhere but they can't keep developing Microsoft Windows if they do. If a
member of a Unix open source community disagrees with the community, they
simply go off and form another community and keep developing in their
preferred direction in that new community.

So, I stick with FTM on Windows for family history (not because I think FTM
is superb, but it's the one I know) and fiddle my GEDCOMs and run my WWW
servers under Unix. I try to get the best of both worlds.

Kerry

[Hugh Watkins]

Kerry Raymond wrote:

The only stupid question is the one you don't ask, IMO.


Except perhaps for questions about buying a "used" Roots Magic registration
key. Such questions appear best unasked

if he had asked ONCE - no problem

he should then have asked in
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.gene ... ace/topics
as many times as he liked

Hugh W

--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

[Hugh Watkins]

Kerry Raymond wrote:

Ahh, yes! If you ever want to see the "Gates of Dell"...

As far as using computers on this earth goes, there is no such thing as
the "Windows of Heaven"


I have been a user/programmer on various flavours of Unix since 1978, but I
personally have a Windows laptop.

I love Unix as a robust operating system and as a software development
environment, but Windows is slicker when it comes to GUIs (even if they take
a lot of the ideas from Apple), there are more applications available for it
(especially for family history), and they do have a reasonably
well-integrated set of standard applications (Mail, Calendar, WWW, Word).
For a lot of everyday stuff (mail, www, word processing), Windows is
reasonably productive.

snip

So, I stick with FTM on Windows for family history (not because I think FTM
is superb, but it's the one I know) and fiddle my GEDCOMs and run my WWW
servers under Unix. I try to get the best of both worlds.

me too (but I use other peoples unix servers like freepages.rootsweb.com)

FTM 16 >> WinXp sp2 >> Parallels 2.5 beta 3 >> Mac OS 10.4.8 >> unix

Intel dual core processor >> MacBook pro with 1680 x 1050 and 1920 x
1200

"complete suite of the standard X11 display server software, client
libraries and developer toolkits, X11 for Mac OS X makes it even simpler
to port Linux and Unix applications to the Mac. X11 for Mac OS X gives
you a complete, rootless X11R6.6 implementation, as well as display
server and client libraries — plus headers in the SDK. X11 for Mac OS X
supports ssh tunnelling for secure display sharing. You can download all
the common toolkits from OpenDarwin.org. Plus, Tiger inludes native
support for popular toolkits such as Tcl/TK and W+widgets."
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/

and I have not begun to explore that using the terminal

but it is genealogical heaven to see ancestry images at 150% on one
screen and read and write on the other

Parallels does not yet support two monitors from WinXP but the
developers are being asked about that almost daily

with a VM I can also use two log ons to one site at the same time

Hugh W
--

a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/

Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

[Charlie Sorsby]

In article <[email protected]>,
Dale DePriest <[email protected]> wrote:
= See if this helps:
= http://genealogysoftwareguide.com/linux ... -software/

Thanks, Dale!

= Dale

Charlie

= Charlie Sorsby wrote:
= > Hello,
= >
= > Does anyone know of software that will read *.paf and produce a
= > gedcom file from it on freeBSD 4.11?
= >
= > My cousin's wife sent me such a file of some research on our family
= > but it's a *.paf file. So far she hasn't been able to produce a
= > gedcom file.
= >
= > The only (working) software I have found formy system is lifelines
= > but it doesn't (as far as I've been able to tell) understand *.paf
= > so I'm stumped.
= >
= > Any suggestions for that or any genealogical software that will
= > build and run on my (admittedly not up-to-date) system will be
= > sincerely appreciated.
= >
= > Updating my operating system is not an option.
= >
= > Thank you for any help.
=
= --
= _ _ Dale DePriest
= /`) _ // http://users.cwnet.com/dalede
= o/_/ (_(_X_(` For GPS and GPS/PDAs


--
Charlie Sorsby
[email protected]
Edgewood, NM 87015
USA