Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

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Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 05 jan 2007 01:31:36

Emigrerte til USA fra Kristiania 24.10.1917, linje Henriksen, skip Bergensfjord, reisemål New York.

her er hun i FT 1900.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =1577#ovre

Det er mulig at Magna og Peder også reiste, men det kjenner jeg ikke til.

Første gang hun reiste skulle hun til sin søster Inga, (gift Høibraaten) i Brooklyn, 666 39th street. Jeg var der i fjor, og dette var ett av de eneste gamle husene som sto igjen... Gjett om det var gøy!? (Disse er min fars mors søstre.)

Hennes søster Inga reiste også til USA med Oscar II for annen gang den 20.09.1924. Så vidt meg bekjent ble begge bosatt i Baltimore. Er det noen som vet hvordan jeg kan spore opp etterkommere av dem nå?Her er kopier av Ellis Island-protokollene deres:

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0343%2ETIF

og her:

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0513%2ETIF

Jeg beklager veldig hvis jeg ikke har vedlagt filene på rett måte!

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 08 jan 2007 17:12:18

:D
What is her exact Birthdate?
Margit in Minnesota

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Marion Fredrickson
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 15, New York, New York
Age: 23 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Maid
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1917
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 824
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Murry Gaggersheim 61
Mary Gaggersheim 54
Marion Fredrickson 23
Matto Errigo 28
Jane Graham 30
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 08 jan 2007 23:39:39

Dear Margit,

I am not sure whether you prefer Norwegian or English...
She was born in Aas, Akershus on 15 march 1896. I know for positive that she arrived to Ellis Island on 6 Nov 1917. She moved to stay with her sister Inga Brooklyn, and later on I believe that both families moved to Baltimore.

There are some Hoibratens in Baltimore and around the US, but I am not sure where to start...

Still, - the lady you have found in the US Census may very well be her!

Anyway - thanks a lot for caring to help - hope to hear from you soon again!

Yours,

Frode

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 08 jan 2007 23:42:33

just another thing - how on earth did you you manage to find her here???

:-)

Frode

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 08 jan 2007 23:56:39

Hei Frode!
Most of the time I can understand what is asked in the Norwegian language on the boards, if I cannot, I have someone in Norway who will translate for me. I am of 100% Norwegian ancestry, but do not speak the language other then uffda.
I like to help and have learned to think "outside the box" when searching for people.
I found her by using her birth year of 1896 and emigration year of 1917 and using Mari* for first name.
Margit in Minnesota :wink:

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 09 jan 2007 12:04:39

Ok I see. Which website are you searching then?

Frode

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 09 jan 2007 14:05:05

Hei Frode!
I use ancestry.com and other databases I have access to. I should have also said that I searched using Mari* Fred* in New York, born 1896 and immigrating 1917. My mind does not always remember all I wish to say when my fingers are typing. :roll:

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 10 jan 2007 23:10:39

Hi again, Margit,

I have traced some other ancestors in Baltimore, see attachment:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... en&indiv=1

(hope the link is working...)

Stanley also had a younger sister, she is born around 1936. She returned to USA after a visit to Norway (my father remembers it very well) in 1949. See link:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... pl&indiv=1

Their parents' names are Sigurd Karl and Inga G. Hoibroten.

Norma might very well still be alive - at the age of approx 71. The problem is that she most likely is married and thereby has left her maiden name. Do you know where I could start a search for her?

Another thing - I found when Stanley died - what does the death ceetificate say - does it give names and addresses of beneficiaries?

All the best!

Frode :D

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 10 jan 2007 23:30:35

Hei Frode!
This I would think is a son of Stanley, his name is William Stanley Hoibroten. Worth a check! He drives a limo to the airport.
http://webapp.psc.state.md.us/Intranet/ ... .cfm?var=H
Name:Mr. William Stanley Hoibroten
Badge#:27729
Exp. Date:03/31/2007
Carrier#:1043
Carrier Name:The Airport Shuttle, Inc.

U.S. Public Records Index
Name: W S Hoibroten
Street address: 6091 Majors Ln
City: Columbia
County: Howard
State: Maryland
Zip Code: 21045
Phone Number: 410-720-0972
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
W S Hoibroten

U.S. Public Records Index
Name: William Hoibroten
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1947
Street address: 210 Ridge Rd
City: Riva
County: Anne Arundel
State: Maryland
Zip Code: 21140
Phone Number: 410-269-0390
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
William Hoibroten 59 1947

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 11 jan 2007 01:25:07

Dear Margit,

I think so too, have today found him in various records on ancestry.com, so I think I'll try to contact him. I feel somewhat awkward about just calling a fourth cousin who has (probably) never heard of me before. He for sure knows that he's got family in Norway, but still...

Are there any links to e-mail directories in the US where I can search for him?

Yours - and allow me tell you - I'm very impressed by your dedication to all of us "over here"!

Frode

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 11 jan 2007 01:30:25

Isn't there by the way anything I could do for you here - or have you already got track of everything?

Frode

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 11 jan 2007 01:32:13

Did you catch the picture of Norma Inga Hoibroten?

http://www.thsgenerals.com/photos/view. ... ion=images

The number of William may not be any good. I just checked my husbands name at ancestry and got about 5 different addresses and two telephone numbers. One of the addresses was 35 years old. ;-)
Margit in Minnesota

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 11 jan 2007 01:46:57

On April 2, 2006, DOROTHY HOIBROTEN (nee Sangtinette); beloved wife of the late Stanley S. Hoibroten; devoted mother of William S. Hoibroten; loving sister of Delores Zimmer; dear aunt of Steven and Richard Alessi. A private memorial service will be held at a later date. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions in Dorothy's name may be made to the Alzheimer's Disease Association, 1850 York Road, Suite D, Timonium, MD 21093.

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 11 jan 2007 01:57:02

Wow, where is the picture of Norma from?

I know that Stanley died 21 April 1996 in Baltimore, pity I didn't start this a couple of years earlier, though....

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 11 jan 2007 02:28:44

Stanley also had a sister, Lillian Hoibroten, dob. 19 May 1916 Brooklyn. Could we find out anything about her whereabouts, ancestors etc.?

I went to see the house mentionned in ellisisland.org (inga hoibroten) in Brooklyn last Easter, - every other building in that street had been torn down, but "my" house was still there. Pappa (Kjell Kristoffersen) was thrilled to see the pictures of it (he's 82 now). H remembers Stanley, Lillian and Norma very well. Norma was (or still is?) cock-eyed - and so were my sister and brother , born 1958 and 1960. (Me: 1964)

Frode

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 11 jan 2007 02:37:08

... it's cross-eyed... :oops:

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 11 jan 2007 16:36:00

Hei Frode! :(

We cannot find out anything about Lillian or Norma until we find out who they married.

Margit in Minnesota

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av dn21210 » 12 jan 2007 20:27:29

Hi Margit,

Now, I know that Mariane married Charles Schoene, born in Germany. Found them in the US 1930 Census, see link
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... en&indiv=1

I do beleive they got children, and I also believe they remained in New York (but don't take that for granted). Any tips for tracing children?

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Re: Mariane Fredriksen, f. 1896, emigrant til USA

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 13 jan 2007 20:08:42

Hei Frode!
Have you asked all the relatives in Norway about Mariane? Do any of them have letters or information?
I have no idea how to find out more information unless you find her obituary as there are no children listed in the 1930 census after 4 years of marriage. :?
Margit in Very Cold Minnesota

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