Translating my genealogy CD-ROM

[Denis Beauregard]

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:19 -0400, Denis Beauregard
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

Denis,

A few years ago, when I was putting together my family CD-ROM, I
looked into making the CD autorun. If I remember the details, it was
something like this...

Before Win XP, you can make the CD autorun with a simple batch file.
For Win XP, you need a bit more. I ended up using a freeware program
that produces and exe file that does it for you. There were several
options, but I wanted only the most basic... just to start the CD as
you'd start on a web page, using the users web browser.

The program was called Menubox. Here's a web page:
http://www.cloanto.com/menubox/

If I remember correctly, for the more advanced features, you need a
registered version of the program, with a license fee.


Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Denis Beauregard]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:51:19 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir
<[email protected]> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:19 -0400, Denis Beauregard
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

Denis,

A few years ago, when I was putting together my family CD-ROM, I
looked into making the CD autorun. If I remember the details, it was
something like this...

Before Win XP, you can make the CD autorun with a simple batch file.
For Win XP, you need a bit more. I ended up using a freeware program
that produces and exe file that does it for you. There were several
options, but I wanted only the most basic... just to start the CD as
you'd start on a web page, using the users web browser.

The program was called Menubox. Here's a web page:
http://www.cloanto.com/menubox/

If I remember correctly, for the more advanced features, you need a
registered version of the program, with a license fee.

I just made something I should have done previously. I typed
the start command from my computer and you know what ? There is
a start command in Windows 98 SE. Shall I understand that this
start command was merely removed from Windows XP ? Or only that
Win 98 has a default PATH command with the directory of that
command and Win XP not, so it would be enough to put the complete
path to get the same effect ?


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[john]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

There are instructions at http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/autorun.html
for autorunning. There is also a zip file containing all that is needed.
It contains
autorun.bat
autorun.inf
index.html - just a dummy file for you to replace.

john

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:46:32 -0400, Denis Beauregard
<[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>

I just made something I should have done previously. I typed
the start command from my computer and you know what ? There is
a start command in Windows 98 SE. Shall I understand that this
start command was merely removed from Windows XP ? Or only that
Win 98 has a default PATH command with the directory of that
command and Win XP not, so it would be enough to put the complete
path to get the same effect ?


Denis

Sorry, I'm no windows expert. I simply researched the autorun feature,
and did what the research told me.... I do understand that it's
possible to do something like the Start command (that as you say,
works with Win98) to get a CD to autorun on a Win XP computer.... but
then it won't autorun on a Win 98 computer.

Using the program I mentioned, however, seems to work on both systems.
The files you need to actually put on the computer are quite small...
I can email you the ones I used on mine, if you'd like to look at
them.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Denis Beauregard]

Le Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:51:19 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir
<[email protected]> écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing:

A few years ago, when I was putting together my family CD-ROM, I
looked into making the CD autorun. If I remember the details, it was
something like this...

Before Win XP, you can make the CD autorun with a simple batch file.
For Win XP, you need a bit more. I ended up using a freeware program
that produces and exe file that does it for you. There were several
options, but I wanted only the most basic... just to start the CD as
you'd start on a web page, using the users web browser.

I made a few tests and more searches on the web.

First of all, I tested it with my own computer (windows 98SE) to find
my file was not working anyway. It worked with another CD-ROM but not
mine. But I found 2 solutions.

I tried that autorun.inf:

[autorun]
OPEN=start index.htm


Not working.

So, I put the start command in a batch file and it was working.

[autorun]
OPEN=start2.bat

And finally, I found. This is THE solution:


[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm


Start must have the .exe to work !!! And start is a part of Windows
98 and Windows XP. So, no need for any external software. Just type
the full name of the program

Now back to that translation...


Denis

--
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/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Denis Beauregard]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:10:18 +0200, john <[email protected]> wrote
in soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?

There are instructions at http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/autorun.html
for autorunning. There is also a zip file containing all that is needed.
It contains
autorun.bat
autorun.inf
index.html - just a dummy file for you to replace.

I found an easier solution... I am surprised it was not suggested in
the pages I found on the web !

autorun.inf containing

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Ron]

Denis Beauregard wrote:


Bonjour Denis

for the Autorun files I just copied them from CDs from magazines etc

I did a quick scan of the web site and the English wording looks fine

I did stumble on the following
"keep in mind that at this time, the birth and death data and the single
children are usually omitted. Please don't write just to add one
missing single child. This data will be added slowly over the next
years. For efficiency, I have to set priorities and those are the head
of families and the married children, not the birth, death or single's
data."

I assume single in this case means "never married"

Whereas my first thought was an only child. But the last sentence
clarified it.

I would suggest saying " children who never married"


--
Ron Lankshear - Sydney Aust (from London- Shepherds Bush & Chiswick)
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~lankshear/

[john]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:10:18 +0200, john <[email protected]> wrote
in soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?
There are instructions at http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/autorun.html
for autorunning. There is also a zip file containing all that is needed.
It contains
autorun.bat
autorun.inf
index.html - just a dummy file for you to replace.

I found an easier solution... I am surprised it was not suggested in
the pages I found on the web !

autorun.inf containing

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm


Denis

I think you will find start.exe is not distributed with Win XP (or from
NT onwards) although it was in earlier versions of windows (see
http://www.cloanto.com/kb/3-157.html).

It seems the name has been hijacked as there is a program called
start.exe around on the internet which is spyware - do a search for
"Start.exe" "Secret-Crush"

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:41:56 -0400, Denis Beauregard
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:10:18 +0200, john <[email protected]> wrote
in soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?

There are instructions at http://www.softwarepatch.com/tips/autorun.html
for autorunning. There is also a zip file containing all that is needed.
It contains
autorun.bat
autorun.inf
index.html - just a dummy file for you to replace.

I found an easier solution... I am surprised it was not suggested in
the pages I found on the web !

autorun.inf containing

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm


Denis

Good! But be sure to test the CD on both a Win 98 computer and a Win
XP computer. My experience was that it would not work on both.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Denis Beauregard]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:51:02 +1000, Ron <[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:


Bonjour Denis

for the Autorun files I just copied them from CDs from magazines etc

I have some CDs too but it seems they all have their own
program and none is using an HTML file. I will have to make
more tests as Charles said it may not run on Win XP (but I saw
on one page someone was suggesting that the start.exe was in
Win XP and not Win 98, so it may appear in Win 98 SE).

I did a quick scan of the web site and the English wording looks fine

I did stumble on the following
"keep in mind that at this time, the birth and death data and the single
children are usually omitted. Please don't write just to add one
missing single child. This data will be added slowly over the next
years. For efficiency, I have to set priorities and those are the head
of families and the married children, not the birth, death or single's
data."

I assume single in this case means "never married"

Whereas my first thought was an only child. But the last sentence
clarified it.

I would suggest saying " children who never married"

Indeed. I think I used that expression in a few pages so I will
scan all of them to be sure.

Thanks !


Denis

--
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/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Denis Beauregard]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:19 -0400, Denis Beauregard
<[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?

I found and tested a solution. The autorun.inf file can be:

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm


I tested that in Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro, so it should
work in any Windows environment.


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 - http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Paul Blair]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

2 files:

autorun.inf which contains this:

[autorun]
open=go.bat

and a file go.bat of one line

start index.htm

index.htm is your opening file, of course.

That's all. You will get the ugly DOS window for a moment, but there is
no way to avoid that without paying for a special bit of software.

Paul

[Gene]

I found and tested a solution. The autorun.inf file can be:

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm


I tested that in Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro, so it should
work in any Windows environment.


Denis

I have been creating technical CD's for our company's field techs to
enable them to carry several hundred manuals with out the penalty of low
gas mileage from the added weight. This method has worked flawlessly
for me with out a single failure on any O/S it has been used on. Go to
http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/q%2Fshellexe.asp
for the program and full, easy to follow instructions. With it, you
copy the following files to the root of the CD and it works.

[autorun]
open = shellexe.exe (Start.PDF) (ReadMe.txt)
icon = EGP Tech Resources.ico

(Substitute your files for the ones in the parentheses)

You have the option of listing different files to open in order of
importance if the end user doesn't have the appropriate program on their
computer. My CD's rely on the user having Adobe reader installed. If
they don't have Adobe then it opens the ReadMe.txt file which explains
that the need to load Adobe Reader. It is a very simple and flexible
way to make auto run CD's. Oh yeah, did I mention that it's free?

[Gene]

I found and tested a solution. The autorun.inf file can be:

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm


I tested that in Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro, so it should
work in any Windows environment.


Denis

I have been creating technical CD's for our company's field techs to
enable them to carry several hundred manuals with out the penalty of low
gas mileage from the added weight. This method has worked flawlessly
for me with out a single failure on any O/S it has been used on. Go to
http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/q%2Fshellexe.asp
for the program and full, easy to follow instructions. With it, you
copy the following files to the root of the CD and it works.

[autorun]
open = shellexe.exe (Start.PDF) (ReadMe.txt)
icon = Your Icon.ico

(Substitute your files for the ones in the parentheses)

You have the option of listing different files to open in order of
importance if the end user doesn't have the appropriate program on their
computer. My CD's rely on the user having Adobe reader installed. If
they don't have Adobe then it opens the ReadMe.txt file which explains
that the need to load Adobe Reader. It is a very simple and flexible
way to make auto run CD's. Oh yeah, did I mention that it's free?

[Jack]

Hi!

Maybe you could look Legacy:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Index.asp?mid=4A17Nvi

With:
Passage Express makes it easy to create your own interactive, customized
CD-ROM . It guides you through the steps of organizing and labeling your
files, and helps you design your own creative front page with buttons
linking to the files. Passage Express will burn auto-run CD's for you that
will work on any Windows computer (Windows 95 or later). The features of
this software make using your CD a snap. Your friends and relatives just
point and click!

French version of Legacy also (as English version etc)
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Interna ... rsions.asp

It will develop in near future a bit, (wait a bit, and check later, they
will be integrated more, maybe free lite version etc)
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Store/M ... nChart.htm


"Denis Beauregard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Hi:

I hope this will be appropriate for the newsgroup...

I published recently the French version of my database on a CD-ROM
and I am now preparing the English version. I made a first draft
that can be viewed from

http://www.francogene.com/genealogy/gfna.php (CD-ROM overall)
http://www.francogene.com/gfna/ (database overall,
and later will be my web site presentation)

I would like to get your feedback to improve the quality of my
English. I know my style is poor and my grammar needs improvement,
but I don't know how to do that.

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?


Denis

--
0 Denis Beauregard -
/\/ Les Français d'Amérique - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/
|\ French in North America before 1721 -
http://www.francogene.com/quebec-genealogy/
/ | Maintenant sur cédérom
oo oo Soon on CD-ROM

[Jim Dell]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:19 -0400, Denis Beauregard
[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?

I found and tested a solution. The autorun.inf file can be:

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm


I tested that in Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro, so it should
work in any Windows environment.


Denis

Denis,

I have had it working for years without extra programs on Windows 98,
ME, 200 & XP. Here's the files I use

Autorun.inf
[autorun]
OPEN=autogo.bat
ICON=tree.ico

Autogo.bat
@echo off
Rem Check if running Windows XP
VER | FIND "Windows XP" > NUL
Rem If Running XP Enable Extensions so Start command is available
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 setlocal ENABLEEXTENSIONS
start \html\Toc.htm


The autorun.inf causes the CD to autorun when its loaded. It calls
Autogo.bat to check if we are running under XP and if we are enable
extensions so the Start command is available.

Jim

[cecilia]

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:52:19 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]>
wrote:

Denis Beauregard wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:02:19 -0400, Denis Beauregard
[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Also, the CD-ROM is working like a web site. Actually, it is the same
software I use to generate the content (with some switches to select
the years, the language and the file names). I would like to have it
autorunning. I read software that I only had to have some autorun
file with start index.htm in it. I did so with no result. I read
later that I have to install some start.exe program. Isn't it
possible to do that with a batch file ?

I found and tested a solution. The autorun.inf file can be:

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm


I tested that in Windows 98SE and Windows XP Pro, so it should
work in any Windows environment.


Denis

Denis,
I have had it working for years without extra programs on Windows 98,
ME, 200 & XP. Here's the files I use

Autorun.inf
[autorun]
OPEN=autogo.bat
ICON=tree.ico

Autogo.bat
@echo off
Rem Check if running Windows XP
VER | FIND "Windows XP" > NUL
Rem If Running XP Enable Extensions so Start command is available
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 setlocal ENABLEEXTENSIONS
start \html\Toc.htm


The autorun.inf causes the CD to autorun when its loaded. It calls
Autogo.bat to check if we are running under XP and if we are enable
extensions so the Start command is available.

Jim

[Denis Beauregard]

Le Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:52:19 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]>
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing:

I have had it working for years without extra programs on Windows 98,
ME, 200 & XP. Here's the files I use

Autorun.inf
[autorun]
OPEN=autogo.bat
ICON=tree.ico

Autogo.bat
@echo off
Rem Check if running Windows XP
VER | FIND "Windows XP" > NUL
Rem If Running XP Enable Extensions so Start command is available
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 setlocal ENABLEEXTENSIONS
start \html\Toc.htm


The autorun.inf causes the CD to autorun when its loaded. It calls
Autogo.bat to check if we are running under XP and if we are enable
extensions so the Start command is available.

I made my tests on Win XP at the local library (no XP in my home).
So, I had to use that environment with some protection (yet I don't
understand that a "protected" PC using only MSIE, but this is
another story). These computers have no access to the prompt.
You just can't enter commands from the DOS shell.

I tried something similar to your batch file but the computer I
tried was forbidding to run any batch file on the CD, at least from
the autorun file, but accepted my longer autorun file.

Also, I don't know what was the effect of the setlocal
ENABLEEXTENSIONS command (I presume it allows XP to run the internal
start command), but there was no start.exe on this computer and my own
PC with Win 98SE was not running START without the .exe extension.
In other words, with the computers I used for tests:

OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC


Denis

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[Jim Dell]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

Le Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:52:19 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing:

I have had it working for years without extra programs on Windows 98,
ME, 200 & XP. Here's the files I use

Autorun.inf
[autorun]
OPEN=autogo.bat
ICON=tree.ico

Autogo.bat
@echo off
Rem Check if running Windows XP
VER | FIND "Windows XP" > NUL
Rem If Running XP Enable Extensions so Start command is available
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 setlocal ENABLEEXTENSIONS
start \html\Toc.htm


The autorun.inf causes the CD to autorun when its loaded. It calls
Autogo.bat to check if we are running under XP and if we are enable
extensions so the Start command is available.

I made my tests on Win XP at the local library (no XP in my home).
So, I had to use that environment with some protection (yet I don't
understand that a "protected" PC using only MSIE, but this is
another story). These computers have no access to the prompt.
You just can't enter commands from the DOS shell.

I tried something similar to your batch file but the computer I
tried was forbidding to run any batch file on the CD, at least from
the autorun file, but accepted my longer autorun file.

Also, I don't know what was the effect of the setlocal
ENABLEEXTENSIONS command (I presume it allows XP to run the internal
start command), but there was no start.exe on this computer and my own
PC with Win 98SE was not running START without the .exe extension.
In other words, with the computers I used for tests:

OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC


Denis

Denis,

Because it is an internal command you won't find a EXE file, its just
like the DIR, DEL, CD, etc commands.

Jim

[Denis Beauregard]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:24:35 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]>
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:

OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC

Denis,
Because it is an internal command you won't find a EXE file, its just
like the DIR, DEL, CD, etc commands.

I understand that. As I said, I tested this on 2 PCs. Your
suggestion wouldn't work at the local library because there is
no access to the DOS prompt.


Denis

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[Jim Dell]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:24:35 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:

OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC

Denis,
Because it is an internal command you won't find a EXE file, its just
like the DIR, DEL, CD, etc commands.

I understand that. As I said, I tested this on 2 PCs. Your
suggestion wouldn't work at the local library because there is
no access to the DOS prompt.


Denis

Denis,

The library probably has the PC locked down. I take it the library is
using windows XP correct?

What error message did you get on Windows 98?

Jim

[Denis Beauregard]

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:55:10 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]>
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:24:35 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:

OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC

Denis,
Because it is an internal command you won't find a EXE file, its just
like the DIR, DEL, CD, etc commands.

I understand that. As I said, I tested this on 2 PCs. Your
suggestion wouldn't work at the local library because there is
no access to the DOS prompt.


Denis

Denis,
The library probably has the PC locked down. I take it the library is
using windows XP correct?

They have some kind of locking system (not by Microsoft). I don't
remember the name of the product, however.

What error message did you get on Windows 98?

There is no message.

If I put a CD with

OPEN=start index.htm
nothing happens.

OPEN=start.exe index.htm
the preferred web browser displays index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

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[Gene]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:55:10 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:24:35 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]
wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:
OPEN=start index.htm didn't work on my Win 98 PC
OPEN=start.exe index.htm didn't work on the Win XP PC
OPEN=startgo.bat didn't work on the Win XP PC

Denis,
Because it is an internal command you won't find a EXE file, its just
like the DIR, DEL, CD, etc commands.
I understand that. As I said, I tested this on 2 PCs. Your
suggestion wouldn't work at the local library because there is
no access to the DOS prompt.


Denis

Denis,
The library probably has the PC locked down. I take it the library is
using windows XP correct?

They have some kind of locking system (not by Microsoft). I don't
remember the name of the product, however.

What error message did you get on Windows 98?

There is no message.

If I put a CD with

OPEN=start index.htm
nothing happens.

OPEN=start.exe index.htm
the preferred web browser displays index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

If the library has auto start turned off for the CD drive, nothing will

happen. To check, open windows explorer, browse to the CD and see if
you can start the index.htm. If you can open a command prompt, change
directory to the CD and type start index.htm. This should give you an
idea of whats happening.

Gene Y

[Gene]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

OPEN=start index.htm
nothing happens.

OPEN=start.exe index.htm
the preferred web browser displays index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

If the library has auto start turned off for the CD drive, nothing will

happen. To check, open windows explorer, browse to the CD and see if
you can start the index.htm. If you can open a command prompt, change
directory to the CD and type start index.htm. This should give you an
idea of whats happening.

Gene Y

PS

This is the help file for the start command;
I hope it helps you.

start:
Starts a separate window to run a specified program or command.

START ["title"] [/Dpath] [/I] [/MIN] [/MAX] [/SEPARATE | /SHARED]
[/LOW | /NORMAL | /HIGH | /REALTIME | /ABOVENORMAL | /BELOWNORMAL]
[/WAIT] [/B] [command/program]
[parameters]

"title" Title to display in window title bar.
path Starting directory
B Start application without creating a new window. The
application has ^C handling ignored. Unless the application
enables ^C processing, ^Break is the only way to interrupt
the application
I The new environment will be the original environment passed
to the cmd.exe and not the current environment.
MIN Start window minimized
MAX Start window maximized
SEPARATE Start 16-bit Windows program in separate memory space
SHARED Start 16-bit Windows program in shared memory space
LOW Start application in the IDLE priority class
NORMAL Start application in the NORMAL priority class
HIGH Start application in the HIGH priority class
REALTIME Start application in the REALTIME priority class
ABOVENORMAL Start application in the ABOVENORMAL priority class
BELOWNORMAL Start application in the BELOWNORMAL priority class
WAIT Start application and wait for it to terminate
command/program
If it is an internal cmd command or a batch file then
the command processor is run with the /K switch to cmd.exe.
This means that the window will remain after the command
has been run.

If it is not an internal cmd command or batch file then
it is a program and will run as either a windowed
application
or a console application.

parameters These are the parameters passed to the command/program


If Command Extensions are enabled, external command invocation
through the command line or the START command changes as follows:

non-executable files may be invoked through their file association just
by typing the name of the file as a command. (e.g. WORD.DOC would
launch the application associated with the .DOC file extension).
See the ASSOC and FTYPE commands for how to create these
associations from within a command script.

[Denis Beauregard]

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:06:55 GMT, Gene <[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:


OPEN=start index.htm
nothing happens.

OPEN=start.exe index.htm
the preferred web browser displays index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

If the library has auto start turned off for the CD drive, nothing will
happen. To check, open windows explorer, browse to the CD and see if

But it has autorun on since I was able to autorun that CD, as I said
in a previous message of that thread.

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm

And this was fully working on both environments I tried.


Denis

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[Jim Dell]

Denis Beauregard wrote:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:06:55 GMT, Gene <[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:


OPEN=start index.htm
nothing happens.

OPEN=start.exe index.htm
the preferred web browser displays index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

If the library has auto start turned off for the CD drive, nothing will
happen. To check, open windows explorer, browse to the CD and see if

But it has autorun on since I was able to autorun that CD, as I said
in a previous message of that thread.

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm

And this was fully working on both environments I tried.


Denis

Denis,

On your Windows 98 PC using Windows Explorer search for START.EXE when
you find it right click on it and display the properties. Who is the
vendor of START.EXE?

Jim

[Jim Dell]

Jim Dell wrote:

Denis Beauregard wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:06:55 GMT, Gene <[email protected]> wrote in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Denis Beauregard wrote:


OPEN=start index.htm nothing happens.
OPEN=start.exe index.htm the preferred web browser displays
index.htm

From what I read on the net, it should work in both cases, but I
don't know why, on my computer, the .exe is required. I have
Win 98SE. I don't think the CD burner software is doing anything
about that.


Denis

If the library has auto start turned off for the CD drive, nothing will
happen. To check, open windows explorer, browse to the CD and see if

But it has autorun on since I was able to autorun that CD, as I said
in a previous message of that thread.

[autorun]
OPEN=start.exe index.htm
ShellExecute=index.htm

And this was fully working on both environments I tried.


Denis

Denis,
On your Windows 98 PC using Windows Explorer search for START.EXE when
you find it right click on it and display the properties. Who is the
vendor of START.EXE?

Jim
Denis,

Also see
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian/windows/howtocacdtwar.htm

Jim

[Denis Beauregard]

Le Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:20:24 GMT, Jim Dell <[email protected]>
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.computing:

On your Windows 98 PC using Windows Explorer search for START.EXE when
you find it right click on it and display the properties. Who is the
vendor of START.EXE?

What ? I prefer by far to use the prompt directly when using a
prompt command !!!

start.exe is made by MS. It was the same time stamp as the other
softwares supplied with Windows 98SE, like:

DEBUG EXE 21 178 99-05-05 22:22 DEBUG.EXE
DELTREE EXE 19 163 99-05-05 22:22 DELTREE.EXE
EXTRACT EXE 93 242 99-05-05 22:22 EXTRACT.EXE
FC EXE 20 846 99-05-05 22:22 FC.EXE
FDISK EXE 64 988 99-05-05 22:22 FDISK.EXE
FIND EXE 6 674 99-05-05 22:22 FIND.EXE
IEXTRACT EXE 17 655 99-05-05 22:22 IEXTRACT.EXE
LABEL EXE 9 548 99-05-05 22:22 LABEL.EXE
MEM EXE 32 514 99-05-05 22:22 MEM.EXE
MOVE EXE 27 731 99-05-05 22:22 MOVE.EXE
MSCDEX EXE 25 473 99-05-05 22:22 MSCDEX.EXE
NLSFUNC EXE 7 052 99-05-05 22:22 NLSFUNC.EXE
SCANDISK EXE 146 692 99-05-05 22:22 SCANDISK.EXE
SCANREG EXE 166 078 99-05-05 22:22 SCANREG.EXE
SORT EXE 25 946 99-05-05 22:22 SORT.EXE
START EXE 28 672 99-05-05 22:22 START.EXE
SUBST EXE 17 984 99-05-05 22:22 SUBST.EXE
SULFNBK EXE 45 056 99-05-05 22:22 SULFNBK.EXE
UNINSTAL EXE 78 759 99-05-05 22:22 UNINSTAL.EXE
XCOPY EXE 3 894 99-05-05 22:22 XCOPY.EXE
XCOPY32 EXE 3 894 99-05-05 22:22 XCOPY32.EXE

(from the French package, i.e. size is not as an English windows)


Denis

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