Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

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Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 11 feb 2006 19:32:58

Hei

Anders Andersen, f 1831 V.Toten og kona Oline Pedersdtr, f 1826 Kolbu Sogn flytta i 1862 til Sortland i Nordland med sine 3 barn: Anders f 25/6-54, Peder Anton f 11/9-58 og Gina f 17/6-61. Der fikk de flere barn Augustinus f 1864, Abel Hartvig f 1869, Amalie Margrethe f 1866, Petra f 1873. Etter Olines død gifta Anders seg på nytt med Anne Arntsdtr Bolling. Han og noen av barna reiste til Amerika.
Dette har jeg funnet i Digitalarkivet, Emigranter fra Trondheim.

4/7 1894. Anders Andersen, arb, 60år, Sortland. Til Winnipeg, Manitoba.
19/7 1893. Augustinius O.S Andersen. ug, 31år, Vesterålen. Til Quebec. (Bill bet. Amerika)
30/6 1894. Abel Hartvig Andersen, ug, 23år, Sortland.Til Winnipeg, Man.
29/5 1895. Anne A. Bolling, g, 54år, Sortland. Til Stephen, Minnesota.

Vi finner ikke sønnen Anders f 25/6-54 etter Ft 1875. er han også reist?
Håper at noen som er bedre i engesk enn meg, har mulighet til å lete hvor det ble av dem og om det finnes noen etterkommere.
Hilsen Kjellrunn, gift med oldebarn av Gina

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av dn12258 » 12 feb 2006 23:55:54

Tror det er denne mannen:

Name: Abel Anderson
Age: 49 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1920: Saint Thomas, Pembina, North Dakota
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1894
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Image: 310

Vedlagt image Census 1910.1920 og 1930.

Det er litt synd at ingen av barna hans har stiftet familie i 1930; da hadde det vær enklere å lete videre.
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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 13 feb 2006 22:58:10

Hei.
Takk for svaret ditt. Dette kan jo godt være den Abel jeg etterlyser, men det er jo dumt at det ikke står HVOR i Norge han kommer fra. --Så er det å komme videre da?

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Legg inn av 17564 » 13 feb 2006 23:33:20

Hei igjen.
Oppdaga ikke vedlegget før etter at jeg hadde svart. Det var virkelig spennende å se.Takk

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Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 14 feb 2006 08:39:20

Hei Kjellrun, hva heter mannen til Anna A. Bolling? Og - hadde de barn før de reiste fra Norge?
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Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 14 feb 2006 08:46:08

uff - som vanlig leser jeeg for fort!! :)
Ser nå at Anna A. Bolling var gift med Anders!!
Rart hun brukte navnet Bolling når hun reiste? Men - dersom hun skulle til sin mann, så var jo han i Minnesota iflg. hennes reisemål. (regner jo med at hun reiste til mannen sin...
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Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 14 feb 2006 08:53:58

Og - et annet spørsmål - har du fødselsdatoer på barna? De er greie å ha når navnene er så vanlige, da det f.eks. i 1900-census er oppgitt fødselsmåned og år!
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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av dn12258 » 15 feb 2006 19:17:45

Jeg er jo totning; vi har "verdens fineste" lokal-slektsider.

Jeg har lett etter Anders og Oline's frødsesdatoer, men har enda ikke funnet dem i kirkebøkene som er digitaliserte.

Derimot; jeg fant deres utflytting fra Toten; her har jeg limt den inn:



1863

Anders Andersen f. 25112 1831, og hustru Oline Pedersdtr. 37 år og barna Anders f. 25/6 1854, Peder Antohon f. 11/9 1858 og, Gina 1 År til Sortland i Nordland.



Du finner avskriften på hjememsiden til Gjøvik og Toten Slekthistorielag http://slektshistorielaget.no/

Klikk deg fremover Kilder / V.Toten / Kirkebøker / Utflytting fra Toten 1821-77

Her er deres vielse:

©Gjøvik og Toten Slektshistorielag - Viede i Vestre Toten 1850-55


Protokoll: A5
Side: 216
Nr: 43
År: 1853
Kirke: V. TOTEN
1 Lysning kirkedag: 23. SØND. TREF.
2 Lysning kirkedag: 24. SØND. TREF.
3 Lysning kirkedag: 25. SØND. TREF.
Vielsesdato: 30.11.1853
Lysningsforlanger: BRUDGOMMEN

Rolle Sivilstand Stilling/
yrke Fornavn Etternavn Bosted Kjønn Fødested Alder
Brudgom UNGKARL TJENER ANDERS ANDERSEN ENSRUD ENSRUD M SÆTERBAKKE 22
Brud PIGE OLINE PEDERSDATTER ENSRUD K ØVERSÆT 27
Brudgoms far ANDERS ANDERSEN M
Bruds far PEDER OLSEN M
Forlover ANDERS ANDERSEN ASLAKRUD
Forlover OLE HANSEN SØRLIEN

Noen feltnavn er utelatt hvis feltet er tomt.

Avskrift ved Heljar Westlie. Korrektur ved Inger-Berit Østby-Deglum.



For å finne den; klikk deg frem i systemet.

Nå har vi jo fødsesdato på Anders Andersen senior og junior og en sønn til.
Om du leter deg litt rundt på siden finner du kanskje noe mer.

Vær obs på at du kanskje må se litt etter i Ø.Toten også.

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av dn12258 » 15 feb 2006 19:19:54

Uff da; jeg hadde jo glemt at du hadde de fleste fødsesdatoene!

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Legg inn av dn12258 » 15 feb 2006 19:37:43

Jeg ser nå at fødselsdatoen på Anders senior (i utflytterlista" er notert som 25112 1831.

Det er sikkert en inntastingsfeil. Send en epost til laget slik at den kan bli sjekket og korrigert.

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 16 feb 2006 23:28:49

Hei. Takk for intressa.
Har vært i kirkeboka for Sortland og funnet at Abel Hartvig ble født 19/6 1869 ,døpt12.sept. og Augustinus Oscar Somerfelt ble født 28/901864 og døpt 11.des.
Anders jr. f 25/6 1854, døpt 16/7, Vestre Toten. vet ikke om sistnevnte reiste til Amerika.
Som du ser, har jeg fått flere ting å "tygge" på. Hilsen Kjellrunn

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 16 feb 2006 23:51:34

Hei Tor.
Takk for arbeidet du har lagt ned for å finne alt dette.Har tidligere hatt filmer til gjennomsyn og funnet det meste fra Toten. Har også fått en del forfedre til Anders og Oline. Men har jo veldig lyst til å finne ut hvor de blei av.
Som du ser av svar til Laila, har jeg funnet fødselsdatoene til Augustinus og Abel også.
I Sortland bygdebok oppdaga jeg at det stod at Augustinus gifta seg i 1885 med Anna Sofie Johnsdtr f.ca 1849 Balsfjord, Troms .De fikk barna : Agnes Oline Marie (1885-1885),
Alberta Oline (1886--) og Aagot Signora Eugenie (1888--). Til USA 1894.
MEN i emigrantlista står det at Augustinus var ugift, og jeg finner ikke navnene til kona og barna i listene?
Ellers må jeg fortelle at selv om jeg er med i DIS, så har jeg ikke slekta på data, og er heller ikke særlig flink med datamaskinen. så det blir mye ark og holde styr på.
Synes det du har funnet om Abel kan tyde på at han er den vi leter etter, men hvor sikker kan man være?

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Legg inn av dn12258 » 17 feb 2006 00:39:30

Selv med et så lite brukt navn som Abel må en selvsagt være kritisk.

Det er imidlertid mye som tyder på at det er rett mann: Navn, fødselsår og imigrasjonsår stemmer.

Jeg finner rett og slett ingen bedre kandinater. Det er selvasgt mange med navnet; også med mellomnavnet H/Hartvick men alle disse har feil nasjonalitet og/eller alder.

Hadde vi bare klart å finne han i 1900; der står det vanligvis fødselmåned.

Kan ikke du ta arbeidet med å sjekke andre emigranter med samme navn, alder og emigrasjonsår?

Finner du ingen vil det være enda et sterkt indisium på at vi har rett mann.

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Legg inn av 17564 » 18 feb 2006 12:35:21

Tor.
Har nå vært innom Digitalarkivet og søkt i de emigrantprotokollene som ligger der.
Fra Trondheim er det kun en, og det er Abel Hartvig jeg spør etter. Fra Kristiania er det 2 Abel Hartvig, men de reiser i 1905 og er 60 og 37 år. Begge bosed Kristiania. Finner noen flere Abel, men ingen som passer.
Så da kan vi jo være enda sikrere på at du har funnet den rette.
Kan JEG gå inn noen steder og søke i Census 1900 for USA og Canada?

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Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 18 feb 2006 12:43:36

Hei!
Canada har en census her
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivi ... 122_e.html
jeg har aldri brukt den, men du kan jo se om du får noe ut av den.

Ellers er nok dessverre US Census 1900 en betaltjeneste, men det går an å få gratis tilgang på prøveabonnement. Du må dog oppgi kreditkortet ditt.

http://www.ancestry.com/

Dersom du leser alt med liten skrift, så skal det være helt ok å prøve dette. Husk evt. å av-abonnere i tide, ellers trekker de på kredit kortet ditt.
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Legg inn av 17564 » 18 feb 2006 17:51:28

Hei Laila.
Takk for svaret. Våger nok ikke å prøve dette. Stoler ikke nok på mine engelskunnskaper til å "dra" kreditkortet.

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 08 jun 2006 18:41:22

Hei Kjellrunn!!
:D I found your August!! He is using the name August Sortland. :D
He is living in Polk County which is just north of my county Norman County in Minnesota.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: August S Sortland
Home in 1900: Township 153, Polk, Minnesota
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Occupation: View Image
Immigration year: 1893

He is a Farmer

Wife Anna S.
Daughters:
Alberta O.
Agat S.
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1930 Census
Name Family Members Home in 1930
(City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation View Image
August O Sortland Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1865 Norway Head
Lena P Sortland Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1860 Wife
Olga Sortland Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1889 Daughter

Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002

Name: Augustinus O. Sortland
Death Date: 18 Dec 1943
Death County: Pennington
State File Number: 011869
Certificate Number: 011869
Certificate Year: 1943
Record Number: 938395

Name: Aagot Sortland
Death Date: 13 Mar 1953
Death County: Kandiyohi
State File Number: 007349
Certificate Number: 007349
Certificate Year: 1953
Record Number: 1209321

Name: Anna Sortland (First Wife)
Death Date: 24 Feb 1915
Death County: Pennington
State File Number: 010070
Certificate Number: 010070
Certificate Year: 1915
Record Number: 162259

Name: Oline Petrina Sortland (His second wife)
Death Date: 23 Jul 1952
Death County: Pennington
State File Number: 012082
Certificate Number: 012082
Certificate Year: 1952
Record Number: 1189396

Burials:
SORTLAND AAGOT 25/MAY/1888 13/MAR/1953 1932 TS GREENWOOD 1 12 5
SORTLAND ANNA S. 14/MAY/1849 24/FEB/1915 1932 TS GREENWOOD 1 12 7
SORTLAND AUGUSTINUS O. 21/SEP/1864 18/DEC/1943 1932 TS GREENWOOD 1 12 6

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Pennington County Minnesota
Resources
http://pvillage.org/


Cemetery Search
Surname First Name Birth Death Age Cemetery Blk Lot GS
Sortland Aagot 5/25/1888 3/13/1953 64 EG 1 12 5
Sortland Anna S. 5/14/1849 2/24/1915 65 EG 1 12 7
Sortland Augustinus O. 9/21/1864 12/18/1943 79 EG 1 12 6

Obituary Search
Surname First Name Date Published Age Cemetery Newspaper
Sortland Aagot 18-Mar-1953 64 Greenwood TRF Times
Sortland Anna 25-Feb-1915 65 Greenwood News-Press
Sortland Augustinus O. 23-Dec-1943 79 Greenwood TRF Times
Sortland Oline 30-Jul-1952 92 ND Times

1909-1910 City Directory Search
Name Address Wife Widow To
Sortland August 0 res 507 Riverside ave lab Annie S
Sortland Miss Bertha 0 bds 507 Riverside ave
Sortland Miss Olga bds 507 Riverside ave appr Thompson Sisters

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Legg inn av 17564 » 09 jun 2006 16:27:04

Margit.Hurra!!!
You found the right one. Thank you!!!!!!
Augustinus was married before he left Sortland, whith Anna Sofie, and they had two daughters: Alberta Oline born 1886 and Aagot Signora born 1888.
BUT in the emigrant book I could not find them, and he was "not married" there.

Olga and Aagot must be the same?
Do you think there are some family left? Maybe Alberta ( Berta) married?

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Kjellrunn,
What is Alberta's exact birthdate? I find this person:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: OTTEM, ALBERTA O
Social Security #: 547362792
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1886
Birthplace: OTHER COUNTRY
Death Date: 27 Jan 1983
Death Place: SOLANO
Mother's Maiden Name: JOHNSON
Father's Surname: SORTLAND

1930 Census (Notice where she is living)
Name Family Members Home in 1930
(City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation
Iser Ottem St Thomas, Pembina, ND abt 1886 North Dakota Head
Alberta Ottem St Thomas, Pembina, ND abt 1887 Wife
Francis Ottem St Thomas, Pembina, ND abt 1916

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: OTTEM, FRANCIS LESTER
Social Security #: 502092335
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1916
Birthplace: NORTH DAKOTA
Death Date: 24 Apr 1989
Death Place: SOLANO
Mother's Maiden Name: SORTLAND
Father's Surname:

Name: OTTEM, IVER E
Social Security #: 547362792
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 18 May 1885
Birthplace: NORTH DAKOTA
Death Date: 2 Mar 1978
Death Place: SOLANO
Mother's Maiden Name:
Father's Surname:

Name: OTTEM, MARY JANE
Social Security #: 470185980
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1918
Birthplace: MINNESOTA
Death Date: 4 Sep 1991
Death Place: SOLANO
Mother's Maiden Name: SWANSON
Father's Surname: MULCAHY


Possible children:

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name Birth Date Gender Mother's Maiden Name Birth County

Daniel Joseph Ottem 17 Jan 1952 Male Mulcahy Solano
Name: Daniel Joseph Ottem
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1952
Street Address: 141 La Cresenda St
City: Vallejo
County: Solano
State: California
Zip Code: 94590
Phone Number: 707-552-6285

Frances Ann Ottem 18 Aug 1946 Female Mulcahy Alameda

James Iver Ottem 31 Aug 1948 Male Mulcahy Solano
Name: James I Ottem
Address: 141 La Cresenda St
City: Vallejo
State: California
Zip Code: 94590-3453
Phone Number: 707-552-6285

Richard Dennis Ottem 28 Dec 1949 Male Mulcahy Solano
DEATH:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: OTTEM, RICHARD DENNIS
Social Security #: 573709837
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1949
Birthplace: CALIFORNIA
Death Date: 27 Apr 1988
Death Place: CONTRA COSTA
Mother's Maiden Name: MULCAHY :D :D :shock:

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Legg inn av 17564 » 09 jun 2006 21:05:05

Sorry, i dont know her birthday. But I`m sure you have the right person.
Now it is easy to think that Abel in Pembina is the right person, too.

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 09 jun 2006 21:59:19

Burials:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascgsi/sunrisecemoaoz.htm

Ottem, Alberta
1886 -1983
Ottem, Iver E.
1885 -1978

Sunrise Memorial Cemetery
2201 Sacramento St.
Vallejo CA 94590

I have requested obituaries of Alberta's parents and sister from Pennington County, Minnesota. I will let you know if I receive them. If not, I will go to the library up there and look them up when I get time

Alberta in 1920 census attached.

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Legg inn av 17564 » 27 jun 2006 23:29:20

Margit
Thank you for all the work you did to find August and his family.
I found James I. Ottem in the phone-book at the same adress in Vallejo, so now I have send him a letter. Hope he will answer me.

Have you tried to find Anders Andersen? Think he lived near Stephen -- his wife emigrated to that place.

Now I have found more about the family. Augusts brother Peder Anton, stayed in Norway, BUT 3 of his children emigrated:

Amanda Othelia Pedersdtr. born 09.09.1887 Vik, Sortland.
From Trondheim 20.04.1904 to Boston

Peder Laurits Koren Pedersen b. 03.11.1884 Sortland
From Tr.heim 08.04.1908 to Emerson,Man.

Anna Karolina Pedersdtr. B. 03.08.1889 Vik, Sortland
From Tr.heim 05.06.1912 to THIEF RIVER FALLS,Min. -- to family

So there must be a lot of family over there.
Kjellrunn

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 27 jun 2006 23:41:51

Hei Kjellrunn!

Anders Andersen, f 1831 V.Toten og kona Oline Pedersdtr, f 1826 Kolbu Sogn.

Is the one above you are looking for by Stephen, MN?
Give me all information again so I have the right one to search for.
I have not heard on obits yet.

Margit in Minnesota

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 27 jun 2006 23:58:10

Hei igjen.
It was the right Anders.
He was born 25.12.1831. Vestre Toten
He left Norway 04.07.1894 to Winnipeg, Man.

His 2. wife Anne Arntsdtr Bolling, born ca. 1841, Sparbo
She left Norw. 29.05.1895 to Stephen.Min

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 28 jun 2006 00:59:30

Another Sortland! :shock:

Married to Emma.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Peder Louis Sortland
City: Not Stated
County: La Moure
State: North Dakota
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1819445
DraftBoard: 0

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: SORTLAND, PEDER
Social Security #: 548034018
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1884
Birthplace: OTHER COUNTRY
Death Date: 2 Nov 1975
Death Place: ALAMEDA
Mother's Maiden Name:
Father's Surname:

One daughter Louise in the 1920 census

In 1930 they were in California:
Name Family Members Home in 1930
(City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation View Image
Peter Sortland Oakland, Alameda, CA abt 1885 Norway Head
Emma Sortland Oakland, Alameda, CA abt 1873 Wife
Louise Sortland Oakland, Alameda, CA abt 1918 Daughter
Arnold Sortland Oakland, Alameda, CA abt 1921 Son

U.S. Public Records Index
Name: Arnold Sortland
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1920
Street Address: 5321 Fish Lake Rd
City: Butte Falls
County: Jackson
State: Oregon
Zip Code: 97522
Phone Number: 541-865-3344
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Arnold Sortland 86 1920
Roberta B Sortland 75 1931

Contact: Jan Westmorland
jnjwest502@mchsi.com

# ID: I00301
# Name: Arnold Sortland
# Sex: M
# Birth: Private

Marriage 1 Mabel Bernice Carter b: 10 JUL 1908 in UT

* Married: Private

Children

1. Living Sortland
2. Arnold Leon Sortland b: 25 SEP 1953
# Death: 26 NOV 1994 in Ashland, Jackson Co, OR
# Social Security Number: 548-90-1753-CA
Utah Cemetery Inventory Recordinfo
about Arnold Leon Sortland
Name: Arnold Leon Sortland
Birth Date: 25 September 1953
Birth Place: Alameda, Ca
Death Date: 26 November 1994
Burial Date: 7 December 1994
Cemetery: Logan City Cemetery
Source: Sexton / Grant
Grave Location: A_ 75_ 2_ 1
Relatives:
Father Arnold Sortland
Mother Mable Sortland


U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Arnold Sortland
Birth Year: 1920
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: North Dakota
State: California
County or City: Alameda
Enlistment Date: 29 Jan 1942
Enlistment State: California
Enlistment City: Presidio Of Monterey
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 1 year of high school
Civil Occupation: Tracktor Driver* or Truck Driver, Heavy or Chauffeur or Truck Driver, Light An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral Trade Test
Marital Status: Married
Height: 76
Weight: 173
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Amanda is found! :o

Social Security Death Index
Name: Amanda Waage
SSN: 475-22-0569
Last Residence: 55412 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States of America
Born: 9 Sep 1887
Died: Oct 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (Before 1951 )

Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002
Name: Amanda O. Waage
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1887
Death Date: 31 Oct 1966
Death County: Hennepin
Mother's Maiden Name: Riber
State File Number: 027476
Certificate Number: 027476
Certificate Year: 1966
Record Number: 1653588

1930 CENSUS (John is dead)
Name Family Members Home in 1930
(City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation
Amanda Waag Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1888 Norway Head
Henry Waag Amanda Waag Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1915 Son
Alton Waag Amanda Waag Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1921 Son
Donald Waag Amanda Waag Thief River Falls, Pennington, MN abt 1924 Son

1920 CENSUS:
John A. Waag age 42 born in Norway came to America in 1883
Amanda age 32 born in Norway came to America in 1904

Alice daughter age 10 born in Minnesota

Pearl daughter age 9 born in Minnesota

John son age 6 born in Minnesota
Children:
John Arlos Waage 8 Jul 1938 Pennington John Arlos Waage Esther Olivia Westdin

Henery son age 4 8/12 born in Minnesota
Children:
Delores Anna Waage 8 Jun 1935 Ramsey Henry John Waage Caroline Emily Brichta

Arnold son age 1 2/12 born in Minnesota



Her son John: (Her husband was named John also)
John A. Waage, 91

Sun City, Calif. - John A. Waage, 91, died June 18 at his home in Sun City, Calif.

A memorial service was held on June 24 at the Sun City Baptist Church of which John was a builder. Interment will be held at the family plot at Greenwood Cemetery in Thief River Falls.

John was best known as a creative, but non-commercial inventor. When he was a teenager living in his hometown of Thief River Falls, he made a diving bell from a steel heater tank that he successfully used to dive in the Thief River to search for lost treasure. Later he built one of the first 15-foot plywood house trailers in his backyard at 408 State Ave. N. He used this trailer to travel west. There were many other contraptions and inventions along the way.

He wrote and published a book of his life at age 86 titled, "What I Saw," which sold several thousand copies.

John worked for both Gamble Skogmo and Western Auto as a zone superintendent, setting up new stores in the west. He spent most of his retirement years living in Sun City, Calif.

John was born in Thief River Falls, Jan. 24, 1913 to John A. and Amanda (Andreasen) Waage. His wife, Esther Westin, of Crosby, preceded him in death. They had two children, John Arlos of San Antonio, Texas and Diane Dupuy of Sun City, Calif.; four grand children and 10 great-grandchildren. One great-great-grandchild is soon to be born.

In addition to his two children, John is survived by one sister, Pearl Martinek and brother Alton R. Waage of Sun City, Calif; and one brother, Donald Waage of Minnetonka.

U.S. Public Records Index
Name: Pearl L Martinek
Street Address: 28721 Amersfoot Way
City: Sun City
County: Riverside
State: California
Zip Code: 92586
Phone Number: 951-679-2979
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Pearl L Martinek

U.S. Public Records Index
Name: Alton R Waage
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1921
Street Address: 26317 Burlington Way
City: Sun City
County: Riverside
State: California
Zip Code: 92586
Phone Number: 951-301-9544
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
A Waage
Alton R Waage 85 1921

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:roll: Perhaps this one??? :)

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Andres Anderson
[Anders Anderson]
Age in 1910: 79
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Spooner, Beltrami, Minnesota
Neighbors: View Results
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of Immigration: 1894
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Household Members:
Name Age
Andres Anderson 79
Anne Anderson 69

He has been married two times, her once. They have been married 23 years. He came to America in 1894 and she came in 1895.
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Still living in Spooner Village in 1920, widowed.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Anderson
[Andre Anderson]
Age: 88 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1920: Spooner, Beltrami, Minnesota
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Widow
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Image: 412


Lake of the Woods County
SPOONER Township (T. 160N, R. 31W) and its village, on the Rainy River, located across the Baudette River from Baudette, were named for Judge Marshall A. Spooner of Bemidji, who helped obtain the incorporation papers; Spooner was born in Indiana in 1858, came to Minnesota in 1882 and to Bemidji in 1901, served as judge of the 15th district, 1903-8, and died in 1927. The village was incorporated on August 22, 1905, reincorporated on January 17, 1907, and separated from the township, merging with Baudette in 1954. The village was settled in 1905 as a lumber community and station of the Great Northern Railway; its lumber mill, built in 1905, was the industry center until it was destroyed by a fire in 1921. The post office operated 1907-54.

Lake of the Woods County
Lake of the Woods County separated from Beltrami County in 1922. All post offices established before 1922 were therefore created while part of Beltrami County. All townships dissolved in 1960, but old names are noted as locations here; former unnamed townships were given letters of the alphabet, A to H, and Angle was divided into ten townships, noted in the entry for Northwest Angle. Scattered parcels of land within the county are part of Red Lake Reservation, for which see Beltrami County.

http://mnplaces.mnhs.org/upham/

Looks like this one:


ANDERSON, ANDREW
Date of Birth: na
Place of Birth: na
Mother Maiden Name: na
certid# 1920-MN-000753
Date of Death: 06/13/1920
County of Death: BELTRAMI
Surname Soundex: A536

and this one

ANDERSON, ANNA
Date of Birth: na
Place of Birth: na
Mother Maiden Name: na
certid# 1920-MN-000809
Date of Death: 01/07/1920
County of Death: BELTRAMI
Surname Soundex: A536

Certificates will have to be checked to make sure.
Margit in Minnesota

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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

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Margit.
I am overwhelmed!!--all you have found. Thank you very much.
Anders and Anne were married at Sortland 1887, so everything is correct.

Can I ask you for more?
At this side 13. feb you can see that Tor Rustad has found an Abel Anderson Saint Thomas, Pembina ND. Census 1910, 1920 and 1930.
I am sure he is Abel Hartvig Andersen born 19.06.1869, Sortland
His boys live at home 1930, but can you find more about them?
Kjellrunn

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Kjellrunn,
There is a biography in the following book about Abel H. Anderson:
Century of St. Thomas Times. [1980]
I wrote and asked how to obtain the biography and received the following response below.
Margit in Minnesota

Last Name:Anderson
First Name:Abel H.
Publication: Century of St. Thomas Times. [1980]
Institute Call Number: F644.S24 C4
Page No: 69

Last Name:Anderson
First Name:John
Publication: Century of St. Thomas Times. [1980]
Institute Call Number: F644.S24 C4
Page No: 69

There are biographical sketches for people who lived in the St. Thomas area.
We have this book indexed on our North Dakota Biography Index:
http://dp3.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/ndbi/ndbi ... _words=395

If you would like to request a copy of one of these sketches our fee is
$5.00. I would need a mailing address and your birth date for billing
purposes.

Sincerely

John Hallberg
John.Hallberg@ndsu.edu
Archives Associate



Kjellrunn Evensen skrev:Margit.
I am overwhelmed!!--all you have found. Thank you very much.
Anders and Anne were married at Sortland 1887, so everything is correct.

Can I ask you for more?
At this side 13. feb you can see that Tor Rustad has found an Abel Anderson Saint Thomas, Pembina ND. Census 1910, 1920 and 1930.
I am sure he is Abel Hartvig Andersen born 19.06.1869, Sortland
His boys live at home 1930, but can you find more about them?
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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

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Tor Rustad
Takk til deg fordi du fant Abel Anderson i Pembina. Jeg har nå fått bekrefta at han er den jeg leita etter,
Da er det bare den eldste broren, Anders jr. jeg ikke har klart å finne etter 1865.
Kjellrunn.

Margit
Thank you very much for all you have found about this family.
John Hallberg confirmed that Abel in Pembina is the Abel I was looking for.
Now I e-mail with James Iver Ottem in Vallejo.
Wish I could find grandchildren of Abel, too.
Grateful for all you have done!
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Re: Anders Andersen f. 1831 Vestre Toten

Legg inn av 17564 » 22 jul 2006 23:51:10

Dis-Norge med sine hjelpere er bare helt fantastisk.
For to måneder siden hadde familien vår ikke anelse om hvor i USA Anders Andersen og hans to sønner haddee slått seg ned.
NÅ vet vi hvor alle tre (m.fam.) levde. og vi har til og med fått bilder av dem.
Jeg har også kontakt med en etterkommer av Augustinus. Vi synes det er utrolig.

Jeg har et ønske til-- å finne etterkommere av Abel også. Vi vet nå dette om sønnene hans:
(Alle født i St.Thomas, Pembina.ND)

Allen Anderson f.16.juli 1908, gift, 2 sønner
John Anderson f 9.feb. 1910, gift, ingen barn
(Oscar, død 3 år gml.)
Normann Anderson, f 30.mars 1914, gift 3 sønner
Oscar Anderson, f 15.mars 1916, gift, 1 jente+1 adopt. jente
Elmer Anderson f 15.mars 1916, gift, 2 sønner
(Ingen av disse er gift før Census 1930)

Skulle jo gjerne hatt navn på noen av disse barnebarna.
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:D
Allen Anderson f.16.juli 1908, gift, 2 sønner
Name: Allen J. Anderson
SSN: 502-24-5579
Last Residence: 58501 Bismarck, Burleigh, North Dakota, United States of America
Born: 16 Jul 1908
Died: 16 Dec 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: North Dakota (Before 1951 )


John Anderson f 9.feb. 1910, gift, ingen barn

(Oscar, død 3 år gml.)

Normann Anderson, f 30.mars 1914, gift 3 sønner
Name: Norman Anderson
SSN: 502-03-8711
Last Residence: 58201 Grand Forks, Grand Forks, North Dakota, United States of America
Born: 30 Mar 1914
Died: Aug 1987
State (Year) SSN issued: North Dakota (Before 1951 )

Oscar Anderson, f 15.mars 1916, gift, 1 jente+1 adopt. jente
Name: Oscar Anderson
SSN: 535-18-2425
Born: 15 Mar 1916
Died: Feb 1971
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951 )

Elmer Anderson f 15.mars 1916, gift, 2 sønner
Name: Elmer L. Anderson
SSN: 501-34-6771
Last Residence: 58201 Grand Forks, Grand Forks, North Dakota, United States of America
Born: 15 Mar 1916
Died: 30 Apr 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: North Dakota (1953-1954 )
Elmer L. Anderson

Obituary
Elmer L. Anderson
Elmer L. Anderson was born in St. Thomas , North Dakota, just a few minutes after his fraternal twin brother, OSCAR (the second). He attended the St. Thomas public school, graduating from high school in May, 1935.
He started college September, 1935, at the University of North Dakota. While in college he won first place as a baritone soloist in the Music Federation Contest in Jamestown, and going on from there to Minneapolis, Minnesota, to the regional contest where he won a first place rating. He graduated in 1940 with a B.S. degree in Education and a Teacher's Certificate in Music from Wesley College.His first teaching position was in St. Thomas, North Dakota. He then taught in Rugby for two years. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy in June of 1942. He took his basic training at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center in Chicago. While there, he was a member of the special retained choir that performed over BBM radio every Sunday and 'Meet Your Navy' program every Friday night. He finally was sent out into the Pacific as a Hospital Corpsman. He saw action in the Marshall Islands invasion and the Palau campaign. He was discharged from the Navy January 27, 1946, as a Hospital Corpsman First Class. He resumed his teaching position in St. Thomas. He spent the following year teaching in Williston, North Dakota. He returned to St. Thomas the next year and took the position of High School Principal and Music instructor until his retirement in 1978. He married Violet Elizabeth Heuchert in St. Thomas on June 25, 1950. He and his bride honeymooned at Chautauqua for 6 weeks during which time they both studied painting under REVINGTON ARTHUR. In 1957,Elmer became the director of the American School in Managua. He and his family moved to Managua in May of that year. He and his family returned to St. Thomas in May, 1959, and he resumed his duties as high school principal and music instructor there. People in St. Thomas called him the music man. Suriviors include his wife, Violet, in Grand Forks; Two sons, Greg (Debbie) Anderson who works as an electrical engineer at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio and Lynn (Dena) Anderson who is a Chemistry instructor at Hutchinson Community College, Kansas. There are also three grandchildren, C.J. Anderson, Brandon Silsbee and Jami Silsbee all of Hutchinson, Kansas. Elmer was preceded in death by his parents and by brothers John, Allen, Norman and Oscar. Memorial Services will be 1:30 p.m. Monday in Amundson Funeral Home of Grand Forks. Visitation will be for the hour before the service in the funeral home. Arrangements are with Amundson Funeral Home of Grand Forks
Published in the Grand Forks Herald on 5/2/2004.
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:D
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Name: Lynn D Anderson
Birth Date: 0 1953
Street Address: 3107 West 56th Ave
City: Hutchinson
County: Reno
State: Kansas
Zip Code: 67502
Phone Number: 620-664-6484
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Dena Anderson 43 1963
Lynn D Anderson 53 1953 :D

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Margit.
You can not understand how happy we are for this!
How can we thank you enough?
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