[Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

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Steve Hayes

[Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 10 des 2005 06:38:00

I have been trying Agent 3.1, but notice that some features available
in earlier versions are missing, or so well hidden that I cannot find
them:

1) Importing text into a message.

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

This is something that I have frequently used in Genealogy newsgroups
- to import the output of another program in order to share the
information.

2) I'm forever pressing F to follow-up a news article, and nothing
happens. Has the keyboard shortcut been disabled?

3) When trying to mark text for deletion etc, pressing Shift-Downarrow
scrolls the whole screen, and does not mark the text. Has the keyboard
shortcut been disabled?

Is it just me, or does the new version have reduced functionality?

Is anyone else using it -- do you know where these features have been
hidden?
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm

Dennis Lee Bieber

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Dennis Lee Bieber » 10 des 2005 09:46:03

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:38:00 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com>
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

I have been trying Agent 3.1, but notice that some features available
in earlier versions are missing, or so well hidden that I cannot find
them:

1) Importing text into a message.

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

Full/sponsored/free version?


I have no problems with menu entry: "Insert/Text File"; use it quite
often on the programming groups to include source code.

2) I'm forever pressing F to follow-up a news article, and nothing
happens. Has the keyboard shortcut been disabled?

Unified into a simple "R"eply (if a mail message, it creates an

email reply, if a news message, it creates a news reply). This did take
me a while to get used to... If one wants to do an email reply to a
usenet post it now takes a bit more work.

3) When trying to mark text for deletion etc, pressing Shift-Downarrow
scrolls the whole screen, and does not mark the text. Has the keyboard
shortcut been disabled?

Must be your machine, it works properly for me.


Is it just me, or does the new version have reduced functionality?

Only thing I don't like is that the Outbox is now another "folder"

under the list of all folders -- meaning that I have to search to find
it when I want to modify a message before sending it.

OTOH, the fact that I can now use ONE Agent configuration to
properly access THREE (four if you count earthlink west and east) news
servers, rather than needing three separate directories with custom INI
files, and running three instances of Agent.

Is anyone else using it -- do you know where these features have been
hidden?

Did you read the "change" notice on Forte's site?
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wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff
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Steve Hayes

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 10 des 2005 10:15:25

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:46:03 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

Full/sponsored/free version?

Trial version, which is supposed to be the full version.

I have no problems with menu entry: "Insert/Text File"; use it quite
often on the programming groups to include source code.

It doesn't appear under the File menu -- have they hidden it somewhere
else?

--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm

Terry Pinnell

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Terry Pinnell » 10 des 2005 11:03:17

Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:46:03 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

Full/sponsored/free version?

Trial version, which is supposed to be the full version.


I have no problems with menu entry: "Insert/Text File"; use it quite
often on the programming groups to include source code.

It doesn't appear under the File menu -- have they hidden it somewhere
else?

The Insert menu only appears when you are composing a message.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Steve Hayes

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 10 des 2005 13:01:10

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:03:17 +0000, Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:46:03 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

Full/sponsored/free version?

Trial version, which is supposed to be the full version.


I have no problems with menu entry: "Insert/Text File"; use it quite
often on the programming groups to include source code.

It doesn't appear under the File menu -- have they hidden it somewhere
else?

The Insert menu only appears when you are composing a message.

Found it -- I see they've moved it to a different place.


--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm

Dennis Lee Bieber

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Dennis Lee Bieber » 10 des 2005 19:05:24

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:15:25 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com>
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:
It doesn't appear under the File menu -- have they hidden it somewhere
else?

It isn't under "File"... When in a reply, my menu list is:

File Edit View Action INSERT Message Tools Window Help

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==============================================================
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wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff
==============================================================
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Mike Mackenzie

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Mike Mackenzie » 11 des 2005 09:55:13

Dennis, I see your questions have been answered here - which is good.
However, the best place to get answers about Agent is probably:
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent

Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:38:00 +0200, Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

I have been trying Agent 3.1, but notice that some features available
in earlier versions are missing, or so well hidden that I cannot find
them:

1) Importing text into a message.

Earlier versions could import a text file into a message, but 3.1
seems to insist that it must be a Unix message format. Has this
function been removed, or just so well hiddenthat I can't find it?

Full/sponsored/free version?

I have no problems with menu entry: "Insert/Text File"; use it quite
often on the programming groups to include source code.


2) I'm forever pressing F to follow-up a news article, and nothing
happens. Has the keyboard shortcut been disabled?

Unified into a simple "R"eply (if a mail message, it creates an
email reply, if a news message, it creates a news reply). This did take
me a while to get used to... If one wants to do an email reply to a
usenet post it now takes a bit more work.

3) When trying to mark text for deletion etc, pressing Shift-Downarrow
scrolls the whole screen, and does not mark the text. Has the keyboard
shortcut been disabled?

Must be your machine, it works properly for me.

Is it just me, or does the new version have reduced functionality?

Only thing I don't like is that the Outbox is now another "folder"
under the list of all folders -- meaning that I have to search to find
it when I want to modify a message before sending it.

OTOH, the fact that I can now use ONE Agent configuration to
properly access THREE (four if you count earthlink west and east) news
servers, rather than needing three separate directories with custom INI
files, and running three instances of Agent.

Is anyone else using it -- do you know where these features have been
hidden?

Did you read the "change" notice on Forte's site?
--

Mike Mackenzie (AVCOM Services)
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
Remove "XYZ" from the "Reply to" address
when responding by email.

Gerd Schmerse

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Gerd Schmerse » 11 des 2005 11:07:32

Steve Hayes schrieb am Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:38:00 +0200:

3) When trying to mark text for deletion etc, pressing Shift-Downarrow
scrolls the whole screen, and does not mark the text. Has the keyboard
shortcut been disabled?

Release the scroll lock button on your keyboard...


Gruß
Gerd (Schmerse)

Dennis Lee Bieber

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Dennis Lee Bieber » 11 des 2005 19:58:56

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:55:13 +1000, Mike Mackenzie <mjm@my.place>
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

Dennis, I see your questions have been answered here - which is good.
However, the best place to get answers about Agent is probably:
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent

Those weren't MY questions... Those were my replies to another's
questions...
--
==============================================================
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
wulfraed@dm.net | Bestiaria Support Staff
==============================================================
Home Page: <http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/
Overflow Page: <http://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

Mike Mackenzie

Re: [Meta] Reduced functionality in Agent 3.1

Legg inn av Mike Mackenzie » 12 des 2005 10:46:49

Sorry about that, Dennis. Perhaps Steve read it anyway.

Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote (in part):

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:55:13 +1000, Mike Mackenzie <mjm@my.place
declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.computing:

Dennis, I see your questions have been answered here - which is good.
However, the best place to get answers about Agent is probably:
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent

Those weren't MY questions... Those were my replies to another's
questions...
--

Mike Mackenzie (AVCOM Services)
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
Remove "XYZ" from the "Reply to" address
when responding by email.

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