Bjerklien - information and photos

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Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av dn35567 » 30 jul 2017 21:22:11

I am the genealogist for the Nord Hedmark og Hedemarken lag and helping a member do his genealogy.

His ancestors were at the Bjerklien farm for several generations and he would like additional information and perhaps pictures of the farm, as well as a the location on a map.

Unfortunately, its not listed in the part of the 1943 Norske Gardsbruk with the pictures and descriptions (although it is listed in the back), nor can I find a photo associated with the 1910 census on the Digital Archives.

I also can't find it on either Gule Sider nor FINN Kart.

Does anyone have any suggestions how we might find where the farm was located and any information on the farm?

Takk!

John
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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av gj25675 » 30 jul 2017 22:13:11

Bjerkelien, called Bjørkelia in modern Norwegian, is located in Åsmarka, at the center of this map:
http://www.norgeskart.no/#!?project=see ... =268259.61

I would advise you to always use the official maps from the Norwegian Mapping Authority (that is norgeskart.no from Kartverket) instead of the commercial maps from Finn or Gule Sider when you are searching for farms and properties. Kartverket is the national registry of properties.


Here is an aerial photo of the farm taken in 1956
https://digitaltmuseum.no/011012754206/ ... ap-asmarka

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av dn35567 » 31 jul 2017 05:38:59

This is great, Matthias -- thanks so much!

Is there some way that people can find out what the current name of a farm is?

Also, are there any places where we could look for a history of farms besides the bygdebøker?

Takk!

John

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av gj25675 » 31 jul 2017 11:40:25

I realize now that your question was a bit more challenging than I originally thought.

There are also another Bjerklien in Ringsaker, on the Nes penninsula, so I am not sure which is the one your lagmember is looking for.

According to this book:
Fredheimkretsen i Ringsaker : bygdebok i miniutgave ved 100-årsjubileet,
there is a husmannsplass under Bordal referred to as Bjørklia:
http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/00de199f1b437 ... index=3#32

I have not been able to localize it on the map near Bordal:
https://www.norgeskart.no/#!?project=se ... =274273.72
but I find Syverud and Snekkersvea to the south that were also mentioned under Bordal.

This Bjerkelien is included in the 1865 census
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 8031001653

and in 1875:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 2059001519

and it is different from the Bjerkelien i Åsmarka that I found previously, which in 1875 is listed as
Bjerklien søndre, Bjerklistykket
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 2059009556
and
Bjerklien nordre, Bjerklistykket
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 2059009566

In the 1900 census, only Bjørklien in Åsmarka is mentioned
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 7049001236
so maybe Bjerklien-Bordal was abandoned by then.


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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av Ulf Simensen » 31 jul 2017 13:00:34

Send en hyggelig mail til Ringsaker kommune og spør der.
Er du heldig, så sender de deg et utsnitt av et gammelt kart med inntegning av gården. :)

Min erfaring er at kommunene er svært hjelpsomme med slike henvendelser, men du må ikke regne med å få et raskt svar. Det er jo ingen prioritert oppgave.
Lykke til.

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av gj25675 » 31 jul 2017 15:46:34

The farm Bjørklien is visible here, between Bordal and Syverud

http://www.kartverket.no/historiske/nor ... 2_1860.jpg

Accessed from Kartverket, here:
http://kartverket.no/Kart/Historiske-ka ... _40-2_1860

I have highlighted the farm in the attached file

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av dn05604 » 13 aug 2017 13:27:33

There is a problem. I need name of the people in America to see which farmthey really came from since there is two places called Bjørklien/Bjerklien.

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av dn35567 » 14 aug 2017 02:18:14

Hei Hans ~

Good to hear from you!

The most recent generation in this line is Tollef Olsen, f. 1837, Nordhaugen, e. til Amerika.

His parents were:
Ole Jonsen, f 1804 Nordhaugen
Kari Thomesdtr, f. 1798 Bjerkelien

Kari's parents were:
Thomes Olsen, f. ~ 1755, Bjerkelien
Mari Mikkelsdtr, f. ~ 1754, gard not given

Thomes's parents were:
Ole Thomesen, f. ~ 1726, gard not given
Kari Pedersdtr, f. ~ 1726, gard not given.


Any help would be much appreciated,

John

note to me: for Dave Nordhougen

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av gj25675 » 14 aug 2017 05:49:51

Karie Thomesdatter and parents are at Bjerkelien in Åsmarka in 1801
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/ru ... 8234002317

Thomes Olsen Bierchelien and Mari Michelsdatter Sørbye were married on the 22nd October 1784.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002326747

Thomes's parents, Ole Thomesen 75y and Karie Pedersdatter 75y, were still living at Bjerkelien in 1801.
When they were married 28 October 1753, Ole was from Baarseth and Kari from Bierkelien
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002331504

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Re: Bjerklien - information and photos

Legg inn av dn05604 » 14 aug 2017 13:21:01

OK John. Tollef Olsen b. May 28 1837 Nordhaugen bapt, June 4, 1837 Brøttum. Emigrated April 8, 1858.
Do you want a gedcom with his ancestrors?

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