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hi there i need some help to find the two daughters of my great great grandfather johan andreasen .I know what happened to him (johan) he ended up in a poor farm in dane county wisconsin and died there and his son marius i also know of he died in Edgerton, Rock, Wisconsin, USA but his two daughters allette and hansine

HANSIN JOHANSDATTER born 26 Jan 1866 NAES AKERSHUSE NORWAY

ALLETE JOHANSDATTER born 29 Mar 1868 ULLENSAKER AKERSHUSE NORWAY

and this is all i know of these girls
[color=darkblue]Whether it was the "timberdriving" which threw a little of himself, or whether there were other reasons it is not known, but the .2 June 1882 Johan went to America Travel route first went with the boat "Rollo" in Sotaaen line from Christiania (the old name of Oslo) to Hull, England via Kristiansand, Norway.. On 10.6.1892 he took the boat "State of Florida" ("State Line") from Glasgow, Scotland via Larne, Ireland to New York and arrived there on 22.6.1882.. From there he went on to Chicago.
. He has apparently ended up in Stoughton in the State of Wisconsin, just north-west of Chicago. . This was certainly the destination for three of his children when they in turn raised by his father to the Midwest.Already the same year as his father stood, pulled the two oldest daughters to America.
[color=blue]Hansine and Alette, 17 and 15 years old and booked them into the steamer "Cameo" in Krantz-line on November 17, 1882.”. They were then registered with the surname "Stensby".
Marius waited until he was 20 before he went to Stoughton.. This happened with the steamship "Montebello" in Blichfeldt-line, on 3 Mars 1891. March 1891He was also registered with the surname "Stensby".[/color
]. At the census in 1920 in the United States had Johan changed hisname to John Stensby. , Dane, Wisconsin. He has been 76 years and had a residential address Stoughton Ward 1, Dane, Wisconsin.He is registeredas a tenant along with several other older men, also Norwegians. . Heis also registered as a widower.
. At the census of the United States in 1930, his place of residence recorded on an old home in Verona, Dane, Wisconsin (about 30 minutes from Stoughton. He was 85 years old.
(”Bess'mor Høltet) The remaining children grew up with her mother - Hanna.
At the census of 1900 in Norway, Hanna living on "Stensbyeie" in Ullensaker along with their youngest son Bernt.
Hanna var ”Arbeiderske sysselsat ved Grøndalens meieri som skurekone”.
Hanna died 4.4.1916. Relatives were John, residing in the United States.[/color]

it would be great if someone could help me and find out what happened to these two


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He lives alone.

Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905 about John Strusby
Name: John Strusby
Census Date: 1895
Residence County: Dane
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Stoughton
LINE: 13
Roll: v226_11
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Legg inn av gj09303 » 03 aug 2014 03:25:59

Hi

When Hanna dies she left husband and 7 children behind.
This might tell you if the two daughters were still alive when their mother died.

No 3:
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/61067/47/
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 030047.jpg

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John Stensby

Inmate

United States Census, 1930

birth: 1845 Norway
residence: 1930 Verona, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
immigration: 1882
John Stensby

Inmate

United States Census, 1930

birth: 1845 Norway
residence: 1930 Verona, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
immigration: 1882



John Stensby

Birth: 1843
Death: 1932


Note: born in Norway

Burial:
Dane County Hospital and Home Cemetery
Verona
Dane County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: B390

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Census 1875

001 01 Johan Andreasen 1844 Grue Prst. hf g Husmand med lidt jord trælastkjører b
002 01 Hanna Lovise Haagensdatter 1844 Ullensaker Hans kone g b
003 01 Hansine Johansdatter 1866 Næs Romrk. Deres datter Forsørges af forældrene hjem. b
004 01 Allete Johansdatter 1868 Ullensaker Deres datter Forsørges af forældrene hjem. b
005 01 Marius Johansen 1870 Ullensaker Deres søn Forsørges af forældrene hjem. b
006 01 Lina Johansdatter 1873 Ullensaker Deres datter Forsørges af forældrene hjem. b
007 01 Karl Johan Johansen 1875 Ullensaker Deres søn Forsørges af forældrene hjem. b

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thank you all for this information but most of it I have when hanna died all the children where alive as they only had 7 children but I do not know what happened to the two girls in America marius dies 1967 lina dies 1939 karl johan 1970 bernt 1961 inga 1945 but allette and hansin went to America and disappeared

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Hansine Johannesen Steensby

Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930

marriage: 1 September 1885 Stoughton, Dane, Wisconsin

father: Johan Andreas Steensby
mother: Hannah Louise Steensby
spouse: Wilhelm Rikard Svensen
other: Johannes Svensen, Sannev Svensen

Hansine Johannesen Steensby

Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930

marriage: 1 September 1885 Stoughton, Dane, Wisconsin

father: Johan Andreas Steensby
mother: Hannah Louise Steensby
spouse: Wilhelm Rikard Svensen
other: Johannes Svensen, Sannev Svensen
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRLK-M5S



Seeger Swenson

Wisconsin, Death Records, 1867-1907

birth: 29 August 1885 Stoughton, Wis.
death: 1887 Stoughton Dane Co., Wisconsin

father: Wm. Richd. Swenson
mother: Hansena Swenson
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Name: Anna Marie Pauline Swenson
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1905
Birthplace: Madison, Dane, Wisconsin
Race: White
Father's Name: William R. Swenson
Father's Birthplace: Lavrork, Norway
Mother's Name: Hanrine Anderson
Mother's Birthplace: Ulmsoger, Norway
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00310-3 , System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy , GS Film number: 1302859 , Reference ID: item 2 p 301
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Name: Hansine Swenson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Blooming Grove, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 43
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1882
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Swenson Head M 44 Norway
Hansine Swenson Wife F 43 Norway
Elenor Swenson Daughter F 19 Wisconsin
Sigard Swenson Son M 21 Wisconsin
Ruth Swenson Daughter F 14 Wisconsin
Pauline Swenson Daughter F 4 Wisconsin
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MPJP-FZS


William Rickard Swenson

Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index, 1840-1950

birth: 1864 Norway
naturalization: 1924 Madison, Wisconsin




William R Swenson

Head

United States Census, 1930

birth: 1865 Norway
residence: 1930 Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
immigration: 1882

spouse: Hensine Swenson
children: Eleanora Wind, Pauline Mcmahan
other: Robert Wind, Randall Wind, Harold Wind

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Sigurd John Swenson

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

birth: 29 December 1889 Stoughton, Wisconsin, United States
draft registration: from 1917 to 1918 Madison County, Wisconsin, United States
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Eleanor L Swenson

Wisconsin, Birth Index, 1820-1907

birth: 10 December 1891 Dane, Wisconsin




Name: Hensine Swenson
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 63
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Birth Year (Estimated): 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1883
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Affiliate Film Number: 2567
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William R Swenson Head M 65 Norway
Hensine Swenson Wife F 63 Norway
Eleanora Wind Daughter F 39 Wisconsin
Robert Wind Grandson M 13 Wisconsin
Randall Wind Grandson M 12 Wisconsin
Harold Wind Grandson M 10 Wisconsin
Pauline Mcmahan Daughter F 24 Wisconsin
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9Q9-CML





Eleanor Wind

Head

United States Census, 1940

birth: 1892 Wisconsin
residence: 1940 Ward 6, Madison, Madison City, Dane, Wisconsin, United States
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children: Robert Edward Wind, Randall Wind, Harold Wind
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Eleanor L Wind

Birth: Dec. 10, 1891
Death: Aug. 6, 1970


Burial:
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Wilhelm Richard Svendsen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 3 November 1864
christening: 17 January 1865 , LARVIK, VESTFOLD, NORWAY
residence: 1864 Larvik, Vestfold, Norway

father: Svendsen
mother: Sonove Ludovike Westnaess


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Name: Hausena Swenson
Residence Place: Blooming Grove, Dane, Wisconsin
Age (Original): 39y
Birth Year (Estimated): Abt 1866
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Relationship to Head of Household (Original Language): Wife
Race: White
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Parent 1 Birthplace: Norway
Parent 2 Birthplace: Norway
Page: 109
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
W R Swenson Head M 40y Wisconsin
Hausena Swenson Wife F 39y Wisconsin
Sigvald Swenson Son M 16y Norway
Elenore Swenson Daughter F 14y Norway
Ruth Swenson Daughter F 9y Wisconsin
Sennet Swenson Mother F 68y Wisconsin

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Tellingsår: 1865
Kommune: Larvik
Kommunenummer: 0707
Gatenavn: Thorstrand
Gatenr: 386a
Bydel:
Gårdeier:
Antall leiligheter: 1

Antall personer registrert på bostedet: 9
Navn Familie-stilling Sivil-stand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet
Johannes Svendsen g Rebslagermester 1823 Bøe Pr.
Sønnøv Ludovikka Svendsen Kone g 1838 Bamle Pr.
Severin Ingvardt Svendsen s ug Sømand 1849 Fredriksværn
Johan Albert Svendsen s ug 1851 Fredriksværn
Iver Magnus Svendsen s ug 1854 Langesund
Andreas Warness?? Svendsen s ug 1863 Laurvig
Wilhelm Richard Svendsen s ug 1864 Laurvig
Marie Katinka Svendsen d ug 1856 Langesund
Peterine Andersdatter ug Tjenestepige 1847 Tjølling Sogn

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ft ... 473&lnr=00

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Legg inn av 23508 » 04 aug 2014 18:51:43

ole skrev:thank you all for this information but most of it I have when hanna died all the children where alive as they only had 7 children but I do not know what happened to the two girls in America marius dies 1967 lina dies 1939 karl johan 1970 bernt 1961 inga 1945 but allette and hansin went to America and disappeared


I added the census because its much easier to search when you have all the fact in the thread ;) Its important to add a link to the information you have :) and dont forget to give us all the information you have :) it's very important because we look at litle details as how the name is spelled for example :)

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Legg inn av gj11124 » 05 aug 2014 02:28:38

THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION ON HANSIN AND I AM SORRY I DID NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING I KNEW BUT I WAS NOT SURE WHAT TO INCLUDE AND WILL REMEMBER FOR FUTURE THE INFORMATION I STARTED WITH IS ALL I HAD AT THE BEGINNING AND IF I FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KIDS OF JOHAN I MIGHT GET LUCKY TO FIND A RELATIVE OF JOHAN HANSIN'S DAD WHO IS MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER WHO MAY HAVE PICTURES.ALLETE (think it is spelt correctly) IS THE OTHER DAUGHTER WHO WENT TO AMERICA WHO I HAVE NOTHING ON .LINA JOHAN'S FOURTH CHILD IS MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER


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Legg inn av gj11124 » 05 aug 2014 06:33:38

ALLETE'S BIRTH
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.

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Legg inn av gj11124 » 08 aug 2014 06:41:38

thank you ann,gunhild and vivi for all this information and I was fantastic to find out what happened to hansin as this family is a bit of a mystery especially after Johan left his wife for a new start in usa and how only part of his family went with him and how he could of left his wife and the rest of his kids never to see them again as far as I know

But ALLETE is still a mystery and it would be nice to complete the family so if anybody has any information on what happened to ALLETE it would be appreciated




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HI

THIS IS THE RECORD FOR HANSINE AND ALLETE STENSBY EMIGRATING TO THE USA THERE BROTHER MARIUS LEAVES IN 1891 HANSIN AND ALLETE LEAVE IN 1882 I CAN FIND NO TRACE OF ALLETE AFTER THIS



Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930


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Legg inn av gj24954 » 05 okt 2015 17:06:00

Hello,

Alette used the name Alice after coming to America. In biographies of William R Swenson (1906, 1922), his wife Hansine says her sister Alice is married to Christ B Hanson and they are farming in North Dakota.

In the US Census 1900 Alice and Chris are living in Green Co, WI, (married in 1891, daughter, Mabel E, 3 yrs old born in WI).

US Census 1910, Alice, Chris, Mabel and son, Roy B (born 1903, SD) living Fieldon, MN.

US Census 1920, Alice, Chris, Mabel, Roy living Fargo, ND.

US Census 1930, Alice and Mabel, Fargo, ND, Chris is patient at Cass County Hospital, Fargo, ND and Roy in Jamestown, SD (divorced, chef in a hotel cafe).

US Census 1940, Alice (now a widow) and Mabel (clerk in a department store, single), Fargo, ND and Roy (married, wife Helen, both restaurant cooks).

In a list created by the Red River Valley Genealogical Society of Fargo funeral home records are Chris B Hanson born 1859, died 1935 and Alice (Mrs Chris) born 1871, died 1950. No proof that these are the correct people but very likely even though Alices' birthdate is wrong.

There is a Social Security Death record that lists a Mabel Hanson, born 22 Jan 1897, died Sep 1976, last residence Minot, ND. Again no proof that this is the correct person, but a possibility.

Social Security Death record for Roy B, born 12 Jun 1903, SD, died 29 Oct 1968, Contra Costa County, CA.

So far, no indication that Roy had children and it looks like Mabel didn't marry or, if she did, it would have been late in life and likely did not have children.

It is interesting that in the above mentioned biographies that Hansine claims that her parents lived in Norway and (in 1922) were both dead. Clearly not the case since John was still alive and Hansine was the person who gave the information on his death certificate in 1932. He must have been a great embarassment for her.

I have done the research on William R Swenson's family because his mother, Sønnøv Wesnæs is my great great grand aunt but have not met any of the descendants of this family so have no idea if they could add more.

Regards,
Carolyn Love

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Legg inn av gj11124 » 21 mai 2016 05:42:54

hello

would like to know more if anyone has more intersted in both sides of the family also interested in hansine swenson if anymore info is available

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 21 mai 2016 13:35:08

Hei!
Have you found this..
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... =157961145

mvh
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Legg inn av gj11124 » 22 mai 2016 06:04:19

hello

no i didnt see that and i am a member of find a grave Thank you so much will see if i can get a picture of the grave also looking for grave of alice(alette) thanks again


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