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Emilie og Gina Olava Eriksdatter, Nysvea f. 1869/1871

Legg inn av gj14936 » 16 apr 2014 22:27:14

Hei,

Har funnet ut at disse to søstrene dro til USA i 1887, 18 og 16 år gamle. https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... p?t=125289

Jeg fant de i emigrantprotokollene: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0001013743 og http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0001013744. Finner at båten de reiste med kom til New York den 21.07.1887 men på sidene til Ellis Island har de ikke noe på nett i fra dette året.

Spørsmålet er hva som skjedde med disse, hvor bosatte de seg, ble de gift og fikk barn? Håper det er noen som kan hjelpe meg her.

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Gine O Erikson 21 Jul 1887 1871 16 Female Christiania, Norway and Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark United States of America Y Rondaler,Norway Thingvalla New York, New York 910

48 Emilie Eriksen 21 Jul 1887 1874 13 Female Christiania, Norway and Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark United States of America ??rendaler,Norway Thingvalla New York, New York 910

Det står at Emilie er 18 år, det er bare skrevet feil.


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Emilie Eriksen
Name: Emilie Eriksen
Arrival Date: 21 Jul 1887
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 13
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: ??rendaler,Norway
Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway and Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Thingvalla


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Gine O Erikson
Name: Gine O Erikson
Arrival Date: 21 Jul 1887
Birth Date: abt 1871
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Y Rondaler,Norway
Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway and Christiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Thingvalla

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97619 1887 152 8 1 06.07.1887 07.07.1887 Emilie Eriks. P. k 18 Rendalen Eau Claire Fr. Lie Thingvalla Ppd
97620 1887 152 9 06.07.1887 07.07.1887 Gina Eriks. P. k 16 Rendalen Eau Claire Fr. Lie Thingvalla Ppd

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 17 apr 2014 13:24:15

Hei Gunhild-Juliane,

Tusen takk. Da ser det ut til at de kom seg over dammen. Håper det er noen som sitter med opplysninger om hva som skjedde med de videre.

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 18 apr 2014 20:39:07

Det var ganske vanlig at de skiftet navn på den tiden (bl.a gårdsnavn) og minst en av søsknene skiftet navn til Honseth. Har søkt rundt på dette navnet også uten å finne ut noe om de.

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 08 jul 2014 15:00:39

Har fått vite at Gina tok et annet navn etter at hun kom til USA og giftet seg. Hun ble hetende Jennie Hamilton og gift med en Edward A Hamilton. Det jeg lurer på er om disse fikk noen etterkommere eller om de var barnløse.

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Name: Jennie Hamilton
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Map of Home in 1940: View map
Street: Three Mile Drive
House Number: 4143
Inferred Residence in 1935: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 9A
Father's Birthplace: Denmark
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Woman Marriages: No
Woman Age at First Marriage: 19
Number of Children Ever Born: 1
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Native Language: Norwegian
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward A Hamilton 69
Jennie Hamilton 68
Astrid M

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Name: Jennie Hamilton
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 04 Jun 1947
Event Place: Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 76
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 10 May 1871
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1871
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Legg inn av gj14936 » 08 jul 2014 23:58:04

Hei Astrid og takk.

Ut i fra dette ser det ut til at de fikk et barn, men desverre ikke noe navn. Håper det er andre som kan ha noen opplysninger om dette barnet.

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 10 jul 2014 12:26:16

Dette må være de i 1930 telligen selvom det er et annet fornavn på ektemannen:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7SL-S63

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 10 jul 2014 14:59:46

Hei!
In 1920 Edward and Jennie are (I think this is them)...still in Wayne co, MI..
but it says Jennie was born in WI...(could be an error)
Edward is 48 and Jennie 47....
No children with them

In 1910 I find this:
Houghton county, Hancock, Michigan
Edward Hamilton age 40, "May" age 38 (she is listed as Danish..immigrated 1888)
they have a daughter, Belle age 16, born in Minnesota
What do you think? could this be the right family?

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 10 jul 2014 15:30:06

Hei Belle,

Thanks for your answere.

Yes, this could be the family :) I see from whay Astrid wrote that they got marrid when she was 19 years old so that can match with Belle since she was 16 i 1910. I have also found out that when the sisters left Norway it was to go to their brother and he lived in Minnesota. Can you please help me to look for their marrige and the birth of Belle to? And couldt it be that you have seen her sisters name some where when you where looking for Jennie?

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 10 jul 2014 16:44:52

Hei Helge!
I tried a few ways to find the family in Minnesota...so far no luck...
I am glad that is seems "reasonable" that Belle might be the daughter of your "Jennie" and Edward.
I use a bit different search system than others who use Ancestry...
It is a program through my local library...and I can search in different ways.
BUT... often Ancestry is very good (but I am not a member)...

Maybe someone else can try and find a marriage of Belle??
I am not good at that...

OH...what is their brother's name...and where did he live in Minnesota?
THAT might really help in the search!!!

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 10 jul 2014 17:31:42

Hei Patty :)

I appreciated your help. Thank you very much.

Their brothers name was Martin Erickson and he lived in Duluth, Minnesota. I have got help with him at this site earlier. https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... p?t=111934


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Legg inn av gj06100 » 10 jul 2014 20:33:28

Hei Helge!
You are welcome.
I was looking at the info that Gunhild-Juliane gave...it said the reisemål for the 2 sisters was Eau Claire (that is Wisconsin)...
I also noticed their brother was married in Eau Claire, in 1890.

I will try and find the site for the Phillips Memorial Library in Eau Claire...
they have a good genealogy link...on marriages etc...
My husband's grandfather settled in Eau Claire! So I have used that site a bit!!!

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 10 jul 2014 20:52:04

Hei Patty,

Yes that was correct, it was not before later he was moving to Duluth. I appreciated that you will try to find them in Eau Claire :)

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 10 jul 2014 21:06:58

Hei igjen
I did not find Martin's marriage to Martha at the Eau Claire site..
Not sure if I misspelled something in the names??????
THIS is the site...
http://www.ecpubliclibrary.info

But I did notice from the 1900 census in Duluth, that Martin's first child Eldida was born Jan 1891
in Wisconsin (must be Eau Claire) then Huldi was born 1894 in MN...so between those dates
Martin and family moved to Duluth...

"only pieces of the puzzle" just now..
Still looking for "Jennie" ...and her sister!
mvh Patty

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Legg inn av Astrid Mollan » 11 jul 2014 00:58:20

1895 Belle ett år. Det står at moren er født i Danmark.
Name: Belli Hamilton
Age: 1
Census Date: 1895
County: St Louis
Locality: Duluth Ward 5
Birth Location: Minnesota
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Race: White
LINE: 9
Roll: V290_95
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 11 jul 2014 04:43:40

Hei!
I am confused....have we found the wrong Hamilton family?
I also found this 1895 MN state census record at familysearch.org

Helge, is the mother of "Jennie"/Gina and her siblings Danish?...or is this an error in the
American census records....I thought Martha was Norwegian...

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 11 jul 2014 11:17:16

Hei,

I am a little confused as well. Their mother was Norwegian. If Martin moved to Duluth between 1891 and 1894, Jennie and Edvard could have moved there to. Then moved to Michigan before 1910, but nothing is certain here. This one was difficult.

I have been looking at the site you mentions Patty in Eau Claire and could not find any thing on Gina/Jennine or Emilie.

Thank you again Patty and Astrid. I will have to dig more to se if I can find somthing that we have missed.

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 11 jul 2014 14:55:07

Hei igjen Helge!
I looked at the 1920 census for the Edward and Jennie Hamilton in Wayne county, MI....
This Edward works as a plumber...the Edward in Duluth 1895 (with "Jennie) is also a plumber.
SO....I THINK these 2 Edwards (and Jennies) are the same...

But...are they the "right" ones????

In the 1920 MI, Wayne co census, it says Jennie was born in Wisconsin, her father b. in England, and her mother born in Denmark....UFF DA....can our census records be SÅÅÅÅ wrong?

The confusion continues!!!!

Sorry..could you give Gina's/Jennie's exact birth date...
You may have already given this...

I was wondering about the death record given earlier ...
Jennie Hamilton D. June 1947 Flint MI, Born May 10 1871....is that correct for "Jennie's" birth?

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av Astrid Mollan » 11 jul 2014 17:00:25

Ja.


Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Rendal, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1867-1877), Fødte og døpte 1871, side 47.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-50
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 610689.jpg
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Legg inn av gj14936 » 11 jul 2014 18:23:56

Hei,

I see that Astrid have given the birth date for Gina and it is the same as the death record. I know from the Norwegian census that not everything is correct, so maybe it's the same with the US cencus.

I belive that the only way to find out if it's correct is to se if I can find out if Belle had some children or grandchildren I can contact.

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 11 jul 2014 18:30:38

OK...
Takk Astrid!!
the next puzzle...IF it is the right Jennie with Edward Hamilton in 1940 census in Detroit, Wayne county, Michigan...
WHY is Jennie buried in Flint Michigan...GENESEE county???
Are there relatives who lived in Flint Michigan?...perhaps an adult child/children??

When Jennie died in June 1947...it appears Edward is still living....that is...
"Marital status: married"
I had no luck finding Jennie (or Edward) at findagrave.com in Genesee county, MI. ...
Just looking for new information...

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 11 jul 2014 18:32:24

Helge..
Yes, I agree!
(we put in our entries at the same time...I did not see yours until I finished mine!!)

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 12 jul 2014 14:17:01

Hei igjen
I have one idea about "Belle/Bella"...that could be short for Isabella.
I found an Isabella Hamilton in MN...but she was the wrong age and married...
I was using familysearch.org

Sorry not much help so far..
mvh Patty

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Patty skrev:Hei igjen
I have one idea about "Belle/Bella"...that could be short for Isabella.
I found an Isabella Hamilton in MN...but she was the wrong age and married...
I was using familysearch.org

Sorry not much help so far..
mvh Patty


One more thing...
We still have not found the Hamilton family in 1900..right?
That could be very helpful.

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 12 jul 2014 14:55:27

I noted that Elida Phelps (dau of Martin Erickson) was living in Flint, Genesee county Michigan with her husband Robert Phelps and family in 1940.
Perhaps that is why "Jennie" is buried in Flint, MI...her niece (Elida) and family were there???

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 12 jul 2014 15:26:31

OH...
At the Eau Claire site http://www.ecpubliclibrary.info (under research genealogy)
I DID find Martin's marriage
I searched at the marriage records...but put in Martha Benson (maiden name only)
Result:
Martin ERIKSEN married Martha Benson April 19, 1890 in Eau Claire, WI
That is the only info given about the marriage.

I was hoping to find Jennie or Emilie...but no results with the last name ERIKSEN...

YEA!!!
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Legg inn av gj14936 » 12 jul 2014 15:38:21

Hei,

It is correct that we have not find them in 1900. I have tried but have not found anything on the names we have.

It could be that she was buried there because of her niece.

I am trying to find Belle after 1895, but so fare nothing.

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 12 jul 2014 22:50:30

Hei Patty.

I am going away for a week so I just want to say thank you for all your help :)

Mvh,
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 13 jul 2014 19:16:45

Thank you Helge for your response....you are welcome.

I wanted to put this in...
I found the birth record for the following:
Anna Belle Hamilton b. August 16, 1893 in St. Louis county (Duluth) MN.

I hope one of these links work!
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnstloui/slmnbin.htm

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnstloui/185999h1.htm
(you have to search for the last name Hamilton)

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 13 jul 2014 21:23:41

Marriage of Ed S. Hamilton to Jennie Erickson, in Duluth, MN
March 22. 1892

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnstl ... iagesh.htm

In my last entry re Anna Belle's birth...the 2nd link works...(but not the 1st link)

(note it says Ed (Edward) S. Hamilton (not Edward "A")

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 23 jul 2014 00:00:17

Thank you for the new information you put inn when I was away Patty. Now we know when Jennie was marrid and died. Birth of their child Anna Belle, but not what happend to her.

When I was searching for the marriage for Jennie before I went away I found somthing interesting that could be her sister that I must look more into:

Amundson - Erickson
Source: Minneapolis Journal (Minneapolis, Minn.) Tuesday, 27 June 1899; transcribed by FoFG mz

Miss Amelia Erickson and Amund J. Amundson were married Sunday afternoon in the Norwegian Lutheran church near Bloomer. Rev. C. Quinn of Rice Lake read the service. Mr. and Mrs. Amundson will make their home at Cartwright.
http://genealogytrails.com/wis/chippewa ... riages.htm

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Helge

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 23 jul 2014 00:26:01

Hei igjen Helge!
Welcome back!!

Hmmmm..."Amelia/Emilie Erickson" could be a very common name...
Is there a reason you think this could be "Jennie's" sister?
Like, does the marriage location make sense? Bloomer, Wisconsin...

And "Anna Belle" is still a mystery for now...

mvh Patty

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also...
I can not find a Cartwright, WI or MN.....
wonder where it is....!

Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 23 jul 2014 00:46:40

Yea Anna Belle is still a mistery.

I did not know that Amelia/Emilie Erickson was a common name. So when I saw that name in Minneapolise Journal I thought that is was so near Duluth where her siblings where living at that time. I hoped that could be some thing.

Well, I have to serch more....

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 23 jul 2014 14:25:16

Hei Helge!
I wanted to check on the Amundson family you found...
Found Amund J. Amundson age 35 in the 1910 Wisconsin census, Chippewa county
Married to Emilie, age 38 (hard to read age)...she was born "at sea" (Norwegian Parents)
they have 2 sons, John age 7, Errol (?spelling) age 5.

I could not find the family in 1900 census (which would be helpful re: birth dates)

But since Emilie was born "at sea" this can not be the right one...agree?

mvh Patty

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Legg inn av gj14936 » 23 jul 2014 20:33:59

Hei Patty,

I agree that this must be wrong family unfortunately. Emilie is still a mystery..

Mvh,
Helge

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