Oldest DNA verifyable all-male line

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Doug McDonald

Oldest DNA verifyable all-male line

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 19 des 2004 18:01:22

Thanks to Leo van de Pas, I have rummaged around looking
for very old DNA-verifyable all-male lines.

I looked at the Somerled line, Plantagenet (Beaufort),
Oldenberg (Prince William of Wales), Flaald of Dol (Stewart/Stuart),
Rutpert of Wormsgau (Robert I of France, Bourbon) and Polignac of
France.

Looking at only DNA verifyable lines, that is, the earliest
branchpoint with living descendants in Leo's database,
the hands-down winner is Rutpert/Bourbon, with a branch point
at Robert II, King of France, born 972.

Looking at the longest line in Leo's database that is not
"iffy", the same line wins.

Second is Flaald, though if you include the MacAllisters
in the Somerled group, it beats Flaald by a hair.

Again, Leo, thanks for the tool! And thank your programmer.

This post is sent but not crossposted to gen-medieval and
genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com.

Doug McDonald

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Oldest DNA verifyable all-male line

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 19 des 2004 18:19:51

Ian Fettes is far more than just a "programmer".

DSH

"Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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| Thanks to Leo van de Pas, I have rummaged around looking
| for very old DNA-verifyable all-male lines.
|
| I looked at the Somerled line, Plantagenet (Beaufort),
| Oldenberg (Prince William of Wales), Flaald of Dol (Stewart/Stuart),
| Rutpert of Wormsgau (Robert I of France, Bourbon) and Polignac of
| France.
|
| Looking at only DNA verifyable lines, that is, the earliest
| branchpoint with living descendants in Leo's database,
| the hands-down winner is Rutpert/Bourbon, with a branch point
| at Robert II, King of France, born 972.
|
| Looking at the longest line in Leo's database that is not
| "iffy", the same line wins.
|
| Second is Flaald, though if you include the MacAllisters
| in the Somerled group, it beats Flaald by a hair.
|
| Again, Leo, thanks for the tool! And thank your programmer.
|
| This post is sent but not crossposted to gen-medieval and
| genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com.
|
| Doug McDonald

David Webb

Re: Oldest DNA verifyable all-male line

Legg inn av David Webb » 20 des 2004 22:17:07

verifiable, thank you very much




"Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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Thanks to Leo van de Pas, I have rummaged around looking
for very old DNA-verifyable all-male lines.

I looked at the Somerled line, Plantagenet (Beaufort),
Oldenberg (Prince William of Wales), Flaald of Dol (Stewart/Stuart),
Rutpert of Wormsgau (Robert I of France, Bourbon) and Polignac of
France.

Looking at only DNA verifyable lines, that is, the earliest
branchpoint with living descendants in Leo's database,
the hands-down winner is Rutpert/Bourbon, with a branch point
at Robert II, King of France, born 972.

Looking at the longest line in Leo's database that is not
"iffy", the same line wins.

Second is Flaald, though if you include the MacAllisters
in the Somerled group, it beats Flaald by a hair.

Again, Leo, thanks for the tool! And thank your programmer.

This post is sent but not crossposted to gen-medieval and
genealogy-dna-l@rootsweb.com.

Doug McDonald

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