Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

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Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 22 apr 2013 23:32:37

Jeg har funnet opplysninger om utvandring til USA for Kristian Torkildsen

Men i listen jeg fant han står det noe informasjon som jeg ikke vet hva betyr.

Person nr. 60183 Kristian Torkilds.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... 60183#ovre

I de siste kolonnene står det: Bet.opplysninger Pdp og Løyve R

Hva betyr dette?

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 00:04:58

What is his birth date??
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 00:06:57

I'm not quite sure, but around 1861 or so.

In the emmigration list he is listed as 20 years old, and he emigrated in 1882

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 00:13:53

:?:

Christian Torkildsen, "Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927"
Name: Christian Torkildsen
Gender: Male
Event Date: 02 Apr 1863
Event Place: MODUM, BUSKERUD, NORWAY
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1862
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Torkild Syvertsen
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Helle Christiansdr
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42854-7
System Origin: Norway-VR
GS Film number: 278203
Reference ID: 2:26CG2C5
Sources
"Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4YP-H61 : accessed 22 Apr 2013), Christian Torkildsen, 17 Oct 1862.
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 00:17:25

Thank you, this is the correct person, the parents are the correct one :-)

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 01:37:57

Data on domicile:

Census year: 1865
Municipality: Modum
Municipality number: 0623
Name of domicile: Thon, Nordgaarden

Number of persons in this domicile: 7
Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Torkel Syvertsen Husf g Gaardbr og Selveier 1815 Norderhaug
Helle Christiansdatter hans Kone g 1820 Hole
Hans Johan Torkelsen deres Søn ug 1860 Modum
Christian Torkelsen deres Søn ug 1862 Modum
Karen Torkelsdatter deres Datter ug 1850 Modum
Anne Soffie Torkelsdatter deres Datter ug 1853 Modum
Petra Jørgine Torkelsdatter deres Datter ug 1856 Modum
Norwegian Historical Data Centre (NHDC)
The Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Tromsø N-9037 Tromsø, NORWAY
Updated: November 10th 2004
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 11:25:04

thank you, but the census for 1865 I've already found :-)

The think I'm asking about here, is the comment in the first link

Person no. 60183 Kristian Torkilds.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... denr=28&fi lnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=60183&merk=60183#ovre

In the last coloumn it says Bet.opplysninger (information about payment) Pdp and next it says Licence R

What I want to now is what Pdp and R means

:-)

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 14:24:33

Probably Pre-paid by someone in America and he will work off the cost of the trip by working for the person for a year or two.
I do not know what R stands for. The database originates in Norway, so perhaps someone at the http://digitalarkivet.uib.no could answer the question.
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 14:35:47

Yes of course, it has to be pre-paid. :-) Thank you

I guess it's his sister and brother-in-law that has paid for his ticket.

Sister Petra Jørgine Torkildsdatter and her husband Kristian Olsen.

I have been looking for emigration information about theese two as well, I think I found her, but not him in 1881.

I'm at work now, so I don't have any more information about theese two here, but I will look into it later :-)

Thanks again :D

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 14:43:20

:?: :?:

1900 United States Federal Census about Petra G Olson
Name: Petra G Olson
[Peter G Olson]
[User-submitted-comment]
Age: 43
Birth Date: Oct 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 14, Cook, Illinois
[Cook]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Christian Olson
Marriage Year: 1883
Years Married: 17
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 3
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Olson 45
Petra G Olson 43
Inga C Olson 16
Oscar C Olson 15
Hilga Olson 12
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 15:25:25

Wow - Thank you :-)

I think I found her emigration information, but I'm not sure.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... 41400#ovre

If this is her, she is listed as Petra Thon (several members of the family took the name Thon as their sure name when emigrating, and some even if they choosed to stay in Norway. The name is from the area (farm) where they lived in Norway).

If this is the right person, she didn't get married until after she moved to America :-)

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 15:26:25

And I can see in the information you sent that Petra and Christian got married in 1883, so it's correct that she was unmarried when she left Norway :-)

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 20:08:50

I'm sure I have seen the US Census for 1910 and 1920 free online?? Am I wrong?

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 20:13:59

I think I've seen the US Census for 1910 and 1920 free online, am I wrong?

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 20:43:13

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 20:45:23

Thank you :-) I looked there earlier today, but I just had 5 minutes break at work, so I wasn't able to take a proper look :-)

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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 23 apr 2013 20:52:30

Petra Thon, "Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920"
Name: Christian Olsen
Titles and Terms:
Race (Original):
Race:
Age: 28
Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Birth Date: 1854
Birthplace: Of Chicago, Cook, Il
Spouse's Name: Petra Thon
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Race (Original):
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Spouse's Birth Date: 1856
Spouse's Birthplace: Of Chicago, Cook, Il
License Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Oct 1882
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Marriage Intention Date:
Marriage Intention Place:
Father's Name:
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Paternal Grandfather's Name:
Paternal Grandmother's Name:
Maternal Grandfather's Name:
Maternal Grandmother's Name:
Spouse's Paternal Grandfather's Name:
Spouse's Paternal Grandmother's Name:
Spouse's Maternal Grandfather's Name:
Spouse's Maternal Grandmother's Name:
Additional Relatives:
GS Film number: 1030127
Frame Number:
Digital Folder Number: 4271082
Image Number: 752
Reference ID:
Sources

"Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N762-N59 : accessed 23 Apr 2013), Christian Olsen and Petra Thon, 21 Oct 1882.
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Re: Kristian Torkildsen, utvandret til USA 15.09.1882

Legg inn av May B. Odden » 23 apr 2013 21:08:23

You're the best Margit :D :D :D

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