Saturday, 4 December, 2004
Hello All,
Following are the relevant charters extracted from The Langley
Cartulary.
Cheers,
John
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NOTE: the following text is from Peter R. Coss, ed., The Langley
Cartulary (Stratford upon Avon: printed for the Dugdale
Society, 1980).
9. 1236-1242
Release and quitclaim by John de Brytewell to Sir Geoffrey de
Langeley of all pacts and agreements made or discussed between them
concerning John’s food or clothing, footwear, horses and harnesses,
board (perhendinationibus) and all kinds of goods and sustenances
which in any way he could claim from him, for 10s. which Geoffrey
is bound to render annually during John’s life and his own, namely
5s. at Michaelmas and 5s. at the Annunciation. Should Geoffrey or
Matilda, John’s sister, be harassed concerning any tenement which
they hold of him in Brightwell (Brytwell) or in Ewelme, Hawridge
(Hauugg’), Haseley (Hasele), Turkdean (Turreden) or Woodborough
(Wodebair) by reason of homage, fealty, suit or any other demand,
John will come to warrant at their command and at their reasonable
expense. Should he not do so he quitclaims regarding homages,
fealties and services so that they will follow the lords of those
fees (sequentur dicta feuda sua versus dominos dictorum feudorum
in omnibus) without any charge by him or his heirs. Sealing
clause. Witnesses: Sir Stephen de Harrehull, Sir Jordan la Ware,
Sir Hascullus de Hardeburgh, Nolo de Morley, Richard Herbenband,
Humphrey de la Barre, Walter le Bell, Geoffrey de Wolmerstone, Hugh
de Aungers, John the clerk of Brightwell (Brytewell), Nicholas his
brother, John le Belle, Roger la Warre and many others. fo. 3r
Marginal note: dominus Galfridus de Langeley.
14. c. 1242
Surrender, release and quitclaim by John de Brythewell son of Robert
de Bryhtwell, for himself and his heirs, to Sir Geoffrey de
Langley, Matilda his wife and their heirs, of the homage which Sir
Geoffrey paid to him for the tenements which they held or hold
(tenuit vel tenent) in Brightwell, Woodborough and Turkdean
(Bryhtwell Wodberow et Turkeden), with reliefs, wardships and all
else which may accrue; granting that they may pay homage to
whomsoever and whensoever they wish and that they may arrange and
dispose of the reliefs, wardships and all else which will have
belonged to him; at will without contradiction or hindrance by him
or anyone on his behalf; with clause excluding future claims.
Sealing clause. Witnesses: Sir Stephen Chenduc, William Huscarle,
Sir Robert Brand, Sir Hugh Pyroun, Peter [ ] [1] then steward of
Wallingford (Walingford), Thomas de Newton, Amaricus fitz Geoffrey,
Ralph de Eston, Reginald fitz Adam, John de Bryhtewell and others.
fo. 6r
Marginal note: Galfridus de Langeley.
18. Early 13th century
Charter of Miles de Sandford, with the consent [1] of Henry de
Sandford his son and heir, giving to Richard fitz A[l]ured of
Brightwell (Brythewellia) 1/2 virgate of land in Ewelme (Ewelmia)
for his homage and service, namely 4 acres juxta Durlvestane, 5
acres super Harepyth, 2 acres at Duggestorn and le Foresutere juxta
Happenburge, and his entire furlong of Leheldelonde; to be held to
him and his heirs, of the grantor and his heirs freely [etc.] in
fee and inheritance, by rendering 12d. annually at the feast of
St. Botulph for all service save forinsec service. In return
Richard fitz Alured gave 7 marks of silver to the grantor and a cow
to his wife. Clauses for warranty and for exchange to the same
value in case of inability to warrant. Sealing clause.
Witnesses: Richard de Parco, William de Bruges, William Marimo,
Richard Foliod, Peter Talisshache, Walter Cotele, Richard Parvin,
Reguin Angewin, William Pypard, Robert his brother, Humphrey de
Ewelmia, William his son, Halin’ de Haseleia, Peter his son,
William Silvanus and many others. fo. 11r
Marginal note: Ricardus filius Audr’ de Brythwell.
1. concessisse for consensu.
Richard de Parco, William de Bruges, Peter Talemache and Walter
Cotele all occur in Oxfordshire fines between 1206 and 1223.
(Ox. Rec. Soc. xii, pp. 31, 34, 44, 53, 56, 65, 71.)
19. Before September 1236
Gift and quitclaim by William Bailleunt’ of Ewelme to Salinus de
Brythwell,for his service and 1 mark of silver which Salinus gave
in advance, of 12 acres of land in the field of Ewelme, namely
those which the grantor held of Robert de Brythwell brother of the
aforesaid Salinus; to be held of the heirs of Robert de Brythwell
to the aforesaid Colinus [sic] and his heirs, and to whom he will
give, assign or bequeath, by rendering annually to the heirs of
the aforesaid Robert 5s. just as the charter [1] of Robert de
Brythwell, father of Colinus, which William has handed to Colinus,
shows. Sealing clause. Witnesses: Robert Brand, William Wace,
Robert Juper, Henry fitz Joc’, Henry Wace, William Sulnem, Adam
Langley [2], Richard fitz Walter, Thomas Croc, John the clerk of
Brightwell (Brythwell) and many others. fos. 11r-11v
Marginal note: Willelmus de Bryghtwel.
1. carti.
2. Written after Rangeull (deleted).
Robert de Brightwell was dead by September 25th 1236.
See below No. 39.
20. Late 12th century
Gift of Rolland Haget to his brother, Alfred, of a virgate of land
in Brightwell Superior.
Rollandus Haget omnibus hominibus tam presentibus quam futuris
Francis et Anglis salutem. Sciatis me dedisse in feudum et
hereditatem unam virgatam terre in Bryhtewell Superiori Aluredo
fratre meo et heredibus suis tenendam de me et heredibus meis,
illam scilicet quam tenuit Edwinus. Et hance predictam virgatam
tenebit Aluredus frater meus et heredes sui libere et quiete per
liberum servicium quod pertinet sepedicte virgate. Huius
donacionis teste[s] sunt Halmandus de Bydon Gaufridus Haget
Radulphus Foliott Jordanus de Lumbelee Ricardus filius Osane
Oliver Frualdus Willelmus de Luvertone Ricardus filius Ernnac’
et totus halimotus de Bryghtewellia. fo. 11v
Marginal note: Aluredus frater Rollandy Haget.
Ralph Foliot paid scutage on 1 1/2 knights’ fees in Oxfordshire in
1199/1200. He held two fees of the honour of Wallingford in
1201/2. (R. B. E. vol. 1 pp. 124, 145.)
Haneladus de Bidon held a knight’s fee in Wallingford, Berks, of the
honour of Wallingford in 1166. (ibid. p. 310).
25. Before September 1236
Charter of Geoffrey de Paveilli giving to Robert de Bryhtwell, for
his homage and service, 1/2 hide of land (dimide[m] hydea[m] terre)
with appurtenances in Standhill (Stamdelf) just as Robert’s father
held it, namely that which Richard fitz Alfred held; to be held to
him and his heirs, of the grantor and his heirs freely [etc.] by
rendering 6s. annually for all service save service to the king,
namely at Michaelmas 3s. and at the feast of St. Mary in March 3s.
Robert gave 4 marks of silver. Clause for warranty. Should the
grantor be unable to warrant he will give land in exchange for the
same value. Sealing clause. Witnesses: Robert Megre, Richard de
la Park, Richard Foliot, William Wace, Robert Pypard, William de
Langehull, William Sulveyn, Amaricus del Park and many others.
fos. 12v-13r
Marginal note: Robertus de Bryhtwelle.
29. Before September 1236
Charter of Richard de Parco giving to Robert son of Richard fitz
Alfred of Brightwell (Bryhtwell) and his heirs, 1/2 virgate of land
which Everwacher held in hida with a messuage and with all
appurtenances in all things, for his homage and service; to be held
of the grantor and his heirs freely and quietly, by rendering 3s.
annually for all services which pertain to the grantor and his
heirs, namely at Easter 18d. and at Michaelmas 18d. Sealing
clause. Witnesses: William Bruges [1], Richard de Bryhtwelle,
Honfredus de Lawlena, William Pypart, William Silvem and many
others. fo. 13v
Marginal note: Robertus de Bryghtwell.
1. after Burg (deleted).
34. Early 13th century
Charter of Richard son of Alfred de Bryhtwell giving to Robert fitz
Baileint, for his homage and service, 12 acres of land in the vill
of Ewelme which are of the fee of Miles de Sandford, namely 4 acres
juxta Deslestane, 5 acres super Herepathe, an acre called
Forescotere, and 2 acres juxta Dukesborne; to be held to him and
his heirs, of the grantor and his heirs, in fee and inheritance,
freely and quietly from all services pertaining to them, saving
as much forinsec as pertains to 1/4 virgate (forthingum) of land,
by rendering 5s. annually, namely 2s. 6d. at the feast of St. Mary
in March and 2s. 6d. at Michaelmas. Robert gave 5s. in gersum
(sersuma). Sealing clause. Witnesses: Richard de Parco, William
Pypard, Humphrey de Ewelm, William de Ewelme, [?] fitz Humphrey,
Robert Pypard, Walter Cotele, Henry Paynus, Robert fitz William,
Wygod de Bryhtwell and Walter his son, Reg[inald] Wytyng and many
others. fo. 14v
Marginal note: Robertus Bayleint’.
38. c. September 1236
Charter of John de Bryhtwell giving to Geoffrey de Langley and
Matilda his wife, and to the heirs who will issue from Matilda,
the gift which he made to the aforesaid Matilda his sister, namely
the entire land with all appurtenances which Robert de Bryhtwell,
his father, held and he held, or will in any way accrue to him in
the vill of Brightwell (Bryhtwell), and the entire land which
Robert his father held and he held or will accrue to him in the
vill of Ewelme with appurtenances, and 2s. rent which Robert held
and he held in the vill of Hawridge (Haurugge) with all other
issues and profits from the said tenement and with all
appurtenances, and the entire land and tenement which Robert held
and he held or will accrue to him with appurtenances in the vill
of Standhill (Standelve), and 6s. rent with all appurtenances
which Peter Olyver rendered to Robert and to him from a tenement
which he held of them in the vill of Haseley (Haseleye) with all
homages, wardships, reliefs, and all other issues and profits
which pertain or will pertain to all the said tenements, by
rendering annually to him and to his legitimately begotten heirs
1 pair of spurs or 6d. at Michaelmas for all services [etc.]
pertaining to him and his heirs save the service of the king which
they will make by their own hands to the chief lords; also he has
granted to Geoffrey and Matilda, and to the heirs issuing from
Matilda, the gift which he made to her of the entire land which his
father held and he held or will accrue to him in the vill
of Turkdean (Turkeden) with all appurtenances, with homages,
wardships, reliefs, and all other issues and profits, by rendering
annually to him and his legitimately begotten heirs 1 lb. cumin or
3d. at Michaelmas for all services [etc.] save royal service which
they will make by their own hands to the chief lords; he has
granted to Geoffrey and Matilda, and to the heirs issuing
from Matilda, the gift which he made to her of the entire land
which Robert held and he held or will accrue to him in the vill
of Woodborough (Wudeberge) with all appurtenances and with homages,
wardships, reliefs and all otherissues and profits of the land, by
rendering annually to him and to his legitimately begotten heirs 1
pair of gloves at Easter for all services [etc.] pertaining to him
and his heirs, save the service of the king which they will make
by their own hands to the chief lords; all the aforesaid to be held
of him and his legitimately begotten heirs freely [etc.], in
demesnes, in meadow and pastures, fishponds, courts, houses, rents,
homages, services of free men and villein services (servagiis
rusticorum), in roads, lanes, waters, mills, and in all other
liberties and free customs pertaining to the lands by the
aforesaid services. If Matilda dies without legitimately begotten
heir and John still lives all the aforesaid should revert to him
and his legitimately begotten heirs save that Geoffrey should hold
them for life, peacefully without contradiction, hindrance or
charge by John or his heirs. If John de Bryhtwell dies without
legitimately begotten heir Geoffrey and Matilda should hold the
aforesaid of the chief lords of the fees by the services which
his father and he were accustomed to make. If both John de
Bryhtwell and Matilda, his sister, die without legitimately
begotten heir, Geoffrey and his heirs should hold the aforesaid
of the chief lords of the fees by the services owed, by hereditary
right, without any claim from John and his heirs and from anyone
to whom any right shall descend on behalf of Robert his father
or of him. Geoffrey and Matilda and their aforesaid heirs should
have all rights and escheats which may descend to John both in
demesnes and in services in Brightwell, Ewelme, Hawridge,
Standhill, Haseley, Turkdean and Woodborough (Bryhtwell Ewelme
Hawrugge Standelve Haseleye Turkeden Wodburew) and all
rights which by reason of the said tenements will accrue, quit
from John and his heirs. Warranty and sealing clauses.
Witnesses: Sir William de Eboraco, William de Insula, Ralph de
Northwyche, Thurstan Dispensarius, Ralph de Chaundes then
justices in eyre at Gloucester (Glovernia) before whom this
charter was made, John de Munemue junior, Walter his brother,
Peter de Egeswrthe, William de la Ware, Geoffrey Martell,
Hascullus de Hardberge, Henry de Bathonia, Stephen de Harehuld,
Richard Ereband and many others. fos. 15v -16v
Marginal note: dominus Galfridus de Langley.
39. 25 September 1236
Final concord made at Bedford, Thursday after the feast of St.
Matthew, 20 Henry III before Ralph abbot of Ramsey (Rames’),
Robert de Lexint’, Oliver de Vallibus, John de Hulcote and William
de St. Edmund, justices in eyre, between Geoffrey de Langeley and
Matilda his wife, querents, and John de Bryhtwell, defendant,
concerning 3 1/2 virgates of land, 13 acres of meadow and
9 messuages with appurtenances in Brightwell (Bryhtwell), and
1/4 virgate (ferlingo) and 14 acres of land with appurtenances
in Ewelme in the county of Oxford (Oxon’), 2s. rent with
appurtenances in Hawridge (Hauryg) in the county of Buckingham
(Bukyngham), 2 virgates of land with appurtenances in Standhill
(Standelve), and 6s. rent with appurtenances in Haseley (Hasell)
in the county of Oxford (Oxon’), 2 hides of land, 7 messuges and
3 acres of meadow with appurtenances in Turkdean (Turkeden) in
the county of Gloucester (Glouc’), and 54 acres of land, 4 1/2
acres of meadow and 2 messuages with appurtenances in Woodborough,
Wilts. (Wuddebergh in comitatu Wiltec’); plea of warranty
of charter. John acknowledged all the aforesaid to be the right
of Matilda as those which Geoffrey and Matilda have of his gift,
to be held to Geoffrey and Matilda and the heirs begotten of
them, of John and his heirs begotten of his espoused wife, by
rendering annually 1 pair of golden spurs or 6d., 1 lb of cumin at
the feast of St. Matthew and 1 pair of gloves at Easter for all
service save forinsec service. John and his heirs begotten of
his espoused wife will warrant the aforesaid to Geoffrey and
Matilda and the heirs begotten of them. Should John die without
heir begotten of his espoused wife Geoffrey and Matilda and the
heirs begotten of them will hold al the aforesaid of the chief
lords of the fee by making the service which pertains. Should
Matilda die without heir begotten of Geoffrey, and Geoffrey still
live, he will hold all the aforesaid for life of the chief lords
of the fee or of John and his heirs begotten of his espoused wife
by the aforesaid service. Should Geoffrey and Matilda die without
heir begotten of his espoused wife all the aforesaid should revert
to the next heirs of Geoffrey to be held of the chief lords of the
fee by making the service which pertains. Geoffrey and Matilda
gave a sore sparrowhawk. John granted for himself and his heirs
that whatever will accrue to him from the tenement which Cecily de
Mucegros holds in dower in Woodborough, Wilts. (Wudebergh in
comitatu Wiltec’) of the gift of Walter de la Winere, her late
husband, of the inheritance of the same John should revert to
Geoffrey and Matilda and the heirs begotten of them or to the
next heirs of Geoffrey if John dies without heir and Geoffrey and
Matilda die without heir begotten of them. fos. 16v - 17r
Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Doug Smith
Re: Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
Therav3@aol.com wrote in message news:<6d.39c6dca0.2ee359d1@aol.com>...
"John granted for himself and his heirs
that whatever will accrue to him from the tenement which Cecily de
Mucegros holds in dower in Woodborough, Wilts. (Wudebergh in
comitatu Wiltec’) of the gift of Walter de la Winere, her late
husband, of the inheritance of the same John should revert to
Geoffrey and Matilda and the heirs begotten of them or to the
next heirs of Geoffrey if John dies without heir and Geoffrey and
Matilda die without heir begotten of them. fos. 16v - 17r"
Hi John,
Have you place this Cecily de Muscegros yet?
Doug Smith
Saturday, 4 December, 2004
big snip
"John granted for himself and his heirs
that whatever will accrue to him from the tenement which Cecily de
Mucegros holds in dower in Woodborough, Wilts. (Wudebergh in
comitatu Wiltec’) of the gift of Walter de la Winere, her late
husband, of the inheritance of the same John should revert to
Geoffrey and Matilda and the heirs begotten of them or to the
next heirs of Geoffrey if John dies without heir and Geoffrey and
Matilda die without heir begotten of them. fos. 16v - 17r"
Hi John,
Have you place this Cecily de Muscegros yet?
Doug Smith
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Therav3
Re: Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
Saturday, 4 December, 2004
Dear Doug,
This is one lead I'm still working on. I believe this Cecily was the
2nd wife of Robert de Muscegros (d. 1254), who m. 1stly Hawise Malet. She may
have been named Cecily de la Rivere (name given in the A2A charter we've
discussed); I believe she m. 1stly Walter de la Winere (as given in the Langley
Cartulary), who evidently d. ca. 1245 or before. She then m. 2ndly Robert de
Muscegros (who d. 1254).
How does that mesh with your Muscegros information?
Cheers,
John
Dear Doug,
This is one lead I'm still working on. I believe this Cecily was the
2nd wife of Robert de Muscegros (d. 1254), who m. 1stly Hawise Malet. She may
have been named Cecily de la Rivere (name given in the A2A charter we've
discussed); I believe she m. 1stly Walter de la Winere (as given in the Langley
Cartulary), who evidently d. ca. 1245 or before. She then m. 2ndly Robert de
Muscegros (who d. 1254).
How does that mesh with your Muscegros information?
Cheers,
John
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Doug Smith
Re: Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
therav3@aol.com (Therav3) wrote in message news:<20041204210251.06417.00000979@mb-m22.aol.com>...
Hi John
Does not mesh - at least as yet. CP X: 672 says Hawise Malet married
Robert de Muscegros (her second husband) and she died aft 4 may 1287
or more than 30 years after her husband. Perhaps Cecily was a first
wife of Robert?
Doug
Saturday, 4 December, 2004
Dear Doug,
This is one lead I'm still working on. I believe this Cecily was the
2nd wife of Robert de Muscegros (d. 1254), who m. 1stly Hawise Malet. She may
have been named Cecily de la Rivere (name given in the A2A charter we've
discussed); I believe she m. 1stly Walter de la Winere (as given in the Langley
Cartulary), who evidently d. ca. 1245 or before. She then m. 2ndly Robert de
Muscegros (who d. 1254).
How does that mesh with your Muscegros information?
Cheers,
John
Hi John
Does not mesh - at least as yet. CP X: 672 says Hawise Malet married
Robert de Muscegros (her second husband) and she died aft 4 may 1287
or more than 30 years after her husband. Perhaps Cecily was a first
wife of Robert?
Doug
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Gjest
Re: Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
Doug Smith wrote:
Also, Robert had a son John who was married to Cecily Avenal. If they
were married as children perhaps the reference is to her, although, the
dates are very tight.
Doug
therav3@aol.com (Therav3) wrote in message
news:<20041204210251.06417.00000979@mb-m22.aol.com>...
Saturday, 4 December, 2004
Dear Doug,
This is one lead I'm still working on. I believe this
Cecily was the
2nd wife of Robert de Muscegros (d. 1254), who m. 1stly Hawise
Malet. She may
have been named Cecily de la Rivere (name given in the A2A charter
we've
discussed); I believe she m. 1stly Walter de la Winere (as given in
the Langley
Cartulary), who evidently d. ca. 1245 or before. She then m. 2ndly
Robert de
Muscegros (who d. 1254).
How does that mesh with your Muscegros information?
Cheers,
John
Hi John
Does not mesh - at least as yet. CP X: 672 says Hawise Malet married
Robert de Muscegros (her second husband) and she died aft 4 may 1287
or more than 30 years after her husband. Perhaps Cecily was a first
wife of Robert?
Doug
Also, Robert had a son John who was married to Cecily Avenal. If they
were married as children perhaps the reference is to her, although, the
dates are very tight.
Doug
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Gjest
Re: Ancestry of NN de Langley, wife of Nicholas de Stafford
Doug Smith wrote:
Also, Robert had a son John who was married to Cecily Avenal. If they
were married as children, perhaps this ref. relates to her but the
dates are tight.
Doug
therav3@aol.com (Therav3) wrote in message
news:<20041204210251.06417.00000979@mb-m22.aol.com>...
Saturday, 4 December, 2004
Dear Doug,
This is one lead I'm still working on. I believe this
Cecily was the
2nd wife of Robert de Muscegros (d. 1254), who m. 1stly Hawise
Malet. She may
have been named Cecily de la Rivere (name given in the A2A charter
we've
discussed); I believe she m. 1stly Walter de la Winere (as given in
the Langley
Cartulary), who evidently d. ca. 1245 or before. She then m. 2ndly
Robert de
Muscegros (who d. 1254).
How does that mesh with your Muscegros information?
Cheers,
John
Hi John
Does not mesh - at least as yet. CP X: 672 says Hawise Malet married
Robert de Muscegros (her second husband) and she died aft 4 may 1287
or more than 30 years after her husband. Perhaps Cecily was a first
wife of Robert?
Doug
Also, Robert had a son John who was married to Cecily Avenal. If they
were married as children, perhaps this ref. relates to her but the
dates are tight.
Doug