Parish register, Aker, Oslo 1838

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Parish register, Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 04:39:36

I am hoping that someone can help with some information about the Banns entry for Johan Gulbrandsen and Ingeborg Olsdatter here:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 040297.jpg

left side, middle page, 9-16-23 September 1838.

Is the residence and occupation of Johan and Ingeborg able to be read?

Is there a relationship between Ingeborg and Hans Christian Olsen mentioned later in the entry?

Any other interesting information would be appreciated.

takk for helpen

Darryl
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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av 6146 » 28 jan 2013 07:19:00

Johan Gulbrandsen has his residence at Blegøen (today: Bleikøya). This is an island in the Oslo fjord. He was confirmed in Opslo (Oslo hospital) 10th October 1830

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-209


Ingeborg Christine Olsen has her residence in Lakkegaden. She was born in Vaterland. She was confirmed in Garnisonsmenigheden 2nd October 1831

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-249


No occupation given for Johan Gulbrandsen, but the people living on the islands in the Oslo fjord were often occupied with fishing. So it is possible he was a fisherman.

Styrmand Hans Christian Olsen is the father of Ingeborg Christine.

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av 6146 » 28 jan 2013 07:55:08

Hello again

Found a little bit information in a leaflet on the islands in the Oslo fjord (published 2010)

About Bleikøya : On the island lives the family Guldbrandsen, the only family who lives on the island all year round. The Gulbrandsen family has lived on Bleikøya since 1721. For many generations the family has been employed with farming, fishing and boatbuilding.
In 2004 Christian and Berit Guldbranden - sixth generation Guldbrandsen - were interviewed in the TV program "Der ingen skulle tru at nokon kunne bu"

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nrk_ ... 15388.html

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 08:15:02

Thanks so much Tove, that information is very helpful, particularly the confirmation of Ingeborg's father.

The story about the island in the Oslo fiord was very interesting as well.


I have now got some good clues to follow up




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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av 6146 » 28 jan 2013 09:39:30

From Familysearch - marriage of Hans Christian Olsen 1811

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW9C-T4V

I think I saw that TV program in 2004 about the elderly couple living on the Bleikøya island. It is just a five minutes boat trip from Oslo harbour.

Tove DJ

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 10:19:09

Just doing some cross checking Tove and I'm a little confused about Ingeborg's father's name. The wedding entry for 26 Dec 1838 here:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 030100.jpg


has her father as Ole OLSEN and indicates that she was born in Sweden.

No doubt it is her mentioned in the Best man's Statement from the dates of the statement and the marriage. I think from my research that Vaterland is now the area near Oslo railway station.

Are there any more clues in the BM Statement?

Best regards

Darryl

Just had another thought, wouldn't her last name be HANSEN if hans Christian OLSEN was her Father?

cheers again, Darryl

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av Else Berit Rustad » 28 jan 2013 10:38:27

The wedding entry of Dec. 26, 1838 shows a couple named Jens Gulbrandsen and Ingeborg Olsdatter (fathers: Gulbrand Eriksen and Ole Olsen).

This is obviously not the same persons as in the best man's statement of Sept. 16, where the couple are named as Johan Gulbrandsen (father Gulbrand Christophersen) and Ingeborg Christine Olsen (father: Hans Christian Olsen).

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 10:41:14

I had a look at the 1831 confirmation record and it confirms that her name was indeed Ingeborg Christine OLSEN, father Hans Christian OLSEN and mother Elen Christine LARSDATTER.

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 10:43:52

Ahhh, thank you for pointing that out Else. I will have a much closer look at the records to make some proper sense of them.

kind Regards, Darryl

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av Else Berit Rustad » 28 jan 2013 10:55:15

Exactly!

The right wedding entry is here, left page, couple no. 100:

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 18 (1837-1841), Ekteviede 1838, side 76.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-69
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 030099.jpg


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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 10:57:30

OK, I hve looked again and found the correct banns statement for Jens GULBRANDSEN and Ingeborg OLSDATTER here:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 040301.jpg

second entry left hand side.

My apologies for the incorrect statement in my first post and wasting your time.

Else or Tove, would you be able to give me a proper translation of the correct statement please?

takk for helpen

Darryl

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 11:01:04

Thank you Else, I think our posts crossed over.

Regards, Darryl

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av Else Berit Rustad » 28 jan 2013 11:03:42

Darryl skrev:http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061109040301.jpg

second entry left hand side.


This is Jens and Ingeborg, not Johan and Ingeborg Christine.... :?:

Which persons would be the right ones :?:

Regards
Else B.

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 11:14:46

Jens and Ingeborg mar. on 26 Dec 1838 and banns 9,16 and 23 Dec are the couple i am interested in thanks Else

regards, Darryl :)

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av Else Berit Rustad » 28 jan 2013 13:43:12

I can write down what the entry says, but somebody else has to do the proper translation, I think...:

9 - 16 - 28 Decbr. Lyses til Ægteskab for Ungkarl Jens Gulbrandsen Sagene og Pige Ingeborg Olsdatter ib. Han er født ved Sagene, 23 Aar gl., conf. 10 April 1831, F(ars) N(avn) Gulbrand Erichsen., vacc. Hun er født i Sverige den 13 Decbr 1816, cfr. Attest af 24 Marts 1823, confirmeret her efter den 6te Octbr 1831, vacc. F(ars) N(avn) Ole Olsen. Forloverne ere: Amund Amundsen Papirmøllen m. i. P., Chresten Larsen Sagene m. i. P.

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Re: Banns Aker, Oslo 1838

Legg inn av gj16333 » 28 jan 2013 23:25:45

Thank you Else for the excellent transcription. I put it through google translate and I was able to understand it all.

Your assistance is much again appreciated

Med vennlig hilsen

Darryl
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