big chart viewing

[Rick Merrill]

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM

[Charlie]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:16:00 GMT, Rick Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM

If you use Acrobat to generat the PDF, you can select a larger paper
size by using Distiller. I've generated PDFs of paper size up to 129"
x 129" using Acrobat 4. I think later versions will generate even
larger sizes. When viewed with the free Acrobat Reader, you can scroll
around the page as you describe, or go directly to a name using the
Find command.
For an example of what one might look like, check out this attempt
that I posted on my web page:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... ousins.pdf


Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[f/f george]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:16:00 GMT, Rick Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM
Fedex/Kinkos sells paper in 100 foot rolls. If you print on it on the

black and white printer the max width is 3 feet and the cost is
50 cents US a square foot. If you print on the color printer, max
65000+ cloors, the rolls expands to 5 feet wide and the costs goes to
between $6.00 and $20.00 a square foot, no matter whether you use the
color ink or not. The difference is the quality of the paper. And yes
you can put the 3 foot wide paper in the color printer but you pay the
$6.00 a square foot price. These prices are good in Wash. DC metro
area, I don't know about your area!
I KNOW you wanted a program to be able to scroll around but I also
thought if you knew the costs maybe.....
OH..they can take the info in any form cd, floppy, send the file to
them ,etc.

[Cùipo]

Rick Merrill wrote:

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM

If you want a large hypertext tree, take a look at KStableau:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/KStableau/
Click on a person in the tree and that person's info appears in a
separate frame along the bottom. Works very well.

For a sample of output, see
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/annemarthster ... N-K/ks.htm
(This one happens to be in Dutch, but you can use the output language of
your choice.)

[Rick Merrill]

Charlie wrote:
....

If you use Acrobat to generat the PDF, you can select a larger paper
size by using Distiller. I've generated PDFs of paper size up to 129"

Thanks for the great tips.
Waidaminute, how do I get from Genbox to Acrobat 4?

x 129" using Acrobat 4. I think later versions will generate even
larger sizes. When viewed with the free Acrobat Reader, you can scroll
around the page as you describe, or go directly to a name using the
Find command.
For an example of what one might look like, check out this attempt
that I posted on my web page:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... ousins.pdf


Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Beauties of examples; thanks again. - RM

[Charlie]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:37:06 GMT, Rick Merrill
<[email protected]> wrote:

Charlie wrote:
...
If you use Acrobat to generat the PDF, you can select a larger paper
size by using Distiller. I've generated PDFs of paper size up to 129"

Thanks for the great tips.
Waidaminute, how do I get from Genbox to Acrobat 4?

When I installed Acrobat it installed Distiller as one mf my Windows
"printers" on my desktop computer, which is still on Win 98. So from
any windows app, I just select Distiller as the printer, and the PDF
is generated. I recently installed Acrobat 6 on my laptop which uses
Win XP, and I think the Distiller is set up differently... but I
haven't investigated it in depth because I don't really generate the
large charts from there, just normal letter sized PDFs.

I don't have GENBOX, but if it allows you to select between Windows
Printers, it should be a snap. Even if it doesn't allow that (Family
Origins had that problem), you could still set up Distiller as your
default printer, then start Genbox, and generate the PDF.

Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

[Rick Merrill]

Cùipo wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM


If you want a large hypertext tree, take a look at KStableau:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/KStableau/
Click on a person in the tree and that person's info appears in a
separate frame along the bottom. Works very well.

For a sample of output, see
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/annemarthster ... N-K/ks.htm
(This one happens to be in Dutch, but you can use the output language of
your choice.)

Wow! These charts are stunning! And I had never seen the
'inbreeding charts' before.

How can you save the HTML results? - RM

[Joshua Levy]

Rick Merrill <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<4pIYc.207662$8_6.187120@attbi_s04>...

What I want is a genealogy chart that can be viewed interactively
AS IF it was a single 5' by 10' (or bigger) piece of paper. The
user can then manually scroll up or down, and ideally click on
links to other branches of the family.

For example, I have seen on-line maps that work this way.

It would allow cousins to explore what we know of their ancestry
with just a browser.

Genbox to CutePDF will output to a 42" by 96" sheet, BUT
Acrobat views it as 8.5"x 11" set of papers.

-- RM

You might want to look at "One Page Genealogy" at BYU:
http://roots.cs.byu.edu/pedigree/
http://roots.cs.byu.edu/pedigree/manual/
It is a program which reads GENCOM and creates one, big PDF file.
I worked well for me, but one caveat: you can not physically print
out the PDF file (it's locked). You can view it and put it on the
web, however. The BYU guys will print your chart for you, but it
costs some money. The software is free; so you can get the view
only charts for free.

Joshua Levy

[Cùipo]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Cùipo wrote:
If you want a large hypertext tree, take a look at KStableau:
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/KStableau/
Click on a person in the tree and that person's info appears in a
separate frame along the bottom. Works very well.

For a sample of output, see
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/annemarthster ... N-K/ks.htm
(This one happens to be in Dutch, but you can use the output language
of your choice.)


Wow! These charts are stunning! And I had never seen the 'inbreeding
charts' before.

Yes, and it's neat to see a simle chart that shows clearly how "Uncle"
So-and-so is really realted to you.

How can you save the HTML results? - RM

The setup page shows the names and location of the html files (Tableau,
Text links, Frames page, Outline), which can be user-definable. They
are automatically updated whenever you view the output as HTML (and
press Save Data). Just upload these files to your website.