Dear Newsgroup ~
The authoritative Complete Peerage, 6 (1926): 457-459 (sub Hereford)
has a good account of the history of the famous Magna Carta baron,
Henry de Bohun, 5th Earl of Hereford, who died on crusade while in the
Holy Land in 1220 [see Powell, Anatomy of a Crusade (1986): 228].
Earl Henry's marriage to Maud de Mandeville, daughter of Geoffrey Fitz
Peter, Knt., Earl of Essex, is well documented elsewhere and needs no
further comment here.
Following Earl Henry's death in the Holy Land in 1220, his widow,
Maud, married (2nd) Sir Roger de Dauntsey, Knt., of Dauntsey and
Wilsford, Wiltshire. Inexplicably, Complete Peerage gives no date for
the marriage of Countess Maud and her second husband, Sir Roger de
Dauntsey, either under its Hereford account or its Essex account.
In recent time, however, I've determined that Countess Maud de
Mandeville was still unmarried as late as 1221, when she was stated to
be in the king's gift in a crown plea in Gloucestershire [Referenece:
Maitland, Pleas of the Crown for the County of Gloucester before the
Abbot of Reading ...1221 (1884): 106 ("447. Comitissa Herefordie est de
donacione domini Regis")].
This record may be viewed at the following weblink (Go to #447):
http://books.google.com/books?id=crU0AA ... M-zOVZn6tc
Countess Maud and Roger are known to have married sometime before 29
October 1227, when they had livery of her Mandeville inheritance
[Reference: Complete Peerage, 5 (1926): 134 (sub Essex), footnote a,
citing Fine Roll, 12 Henry III].
Thus, it would appear that Countess Maud de Mandeville married (2nd)
between 1221 and 29 October 1227 to her second husband, Sir Roger de
Dauntsey.
For interest's sake, a list is provided below of the numerous 17th
Century New World immigrants that descend from Earl Henry de Bohun and
his wife, Maud de Mandeville. For the connecting links from the
immigrants listed below back to the Bohun family, please see Douglas
Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (2005).
Robert Abell, Dannett Abney, Elizabeth Alsop, William Asfordby,
Barbara Aubrey, Charles Barnes, Christopher Batt, Anne Baynton,
Marmaduke Beckwith, Dorothy Beresford, Richard & William Bernard,
Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Joseph
Bolles, Thomas Booth, Elizabeth Bosvile, Mary Bourchier, Giles, George
& Robert Brent, Obadiah Bruen, Stephen Bull, Elizabeth Butler, Charles
Calvert, Edward Carleton, Kenelm Cheseldine, Grace Chetwode, Jeremy
Clarke, Matthew Clarkson, James & Norton Claypoole, St. Leger Codd,
Henry Corbin, Elizabeth Coytemore, James Cudworth, Francis Dade,
Humphrey Davie, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, Edward Digges,
Thomas Dudley, Rowland Ellis, William Farrer, John Fenwick, John
Fisher, Henry Fleete, Edward Foliot, Thomas Gerard, Muriel Gurdon,
Elizabeth & John Harleston, Warham Horsmanden, Anne Humphrey, Daniel &
John Humphrey, Edmund Jennings, Edmund, Edward, Richard, & Matthew
Kempe, Mary Launce, Hannah, Samuel & Sarah Levis, Thomas Ligon,
Nathaniel Littleton, Thomas Lloyd, Anne Lovelace, Henry, Nicholas and
Jane Lowe, Percival Lowell, Gabriel, Roger & Sarah Ludlow, Thomas
Lunsford, Simon Lynde, Agnes Mackworth, Anne, Elizabeth & John
Mansfield, Oliver Manwaring, Anne & Katherine Marbury, Anne
Mauleverer, Richard More, Joseph & Mary Need, John Nelson, Philip &
Thomas Nelson, Joshua & Rebecca Owen, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge,
Richard Palgrave, Richard Parker, Herbert Pelham, Robert Peyton,
William & Elizabeth Pole, Henry & William Randolph, Edward Raynsford,
George Reade, William Rodney, Thomas Rudyard, Elizabeth Saint John,
Katherine Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, Anthony Savage, William
Skepper, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman,
Samuel & William Torrey, Olive Welby, John West, Thomas Wingfield,
Mary Wolseley, Hawte Wyatt, Amy Wyllys, George Yate.
Lastly, for you royalty buffs, I should mention that Earl Henry de
Bohun was the nephew of William the Lion, King of Scotland
[References: Stubbs, Memoriale fratris Walteri de Coventria 2 (Rolls
Ser. 58) (1871): 170 (sub A.D. 1200: "Henricum de Boun, comitem
Herefordiæ, nepotem Willelmi regis Scotiæ" [Henry de Bohun, Earl of
Hereford, nephew of William [the Lion] King of Scotland). Stubbs,
Chronica Magistri Rogeri de Houedene 4 (Rolls Ser. 51) (1871): 140
(sub A.D. 1200: "Henricum de Boum, nepotem Willielmi regis
Scotiæ" [Henry de Bohun, nephew of William [the Lion] King of
Scotland)].
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandeville, C
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Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandevill
On Feb 4, 12:00 pm, Douglas Richardson <[email protected]> wrote:
(cross-posting removed)
And so the wilful cross-postings to infected groups continues.
Douglas Richardson has officially crossed over to trolldom.
What a shame.
MA-R
(cross-posting removed)
Dear Newsgroup ~
And so the wilful cross-postings to infected groups continues.
Douglas Richardson has officially crossed over to trolldom.
What a shame.
MA-R
Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandevill
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There is perhaps some not unusual low cunning in his cross-posting,
Michael - he can always pretend that any nonsensical post he wishes to
disclaim appearing under his name really came from a splorger. Maybe that's
who posted the deceitful rubbish about his fictitious discoveries and
retrospectively adjusted opinions on Countess Ida question.
Peter Stewart
news:[email protected]...
On Feb 4, 12:00 pm, Douglas Richardson <[email protected]> wrote:
(cross-posting removed)
Dear Newsgroup ~
And so the wilful cross-postings to infected groups continues.
Douglas Richardson has officially crossed over to trolldom.
There is perhaps some not unusual low cunning in his cross-posting,
Michael - he can always pretend that any nonsensical post he wishes to
disclaim appearing under his name really came from a splorger. Maybe that's
who posted the deceitful rubbish about his fictitious discoveries and
retrospectively adjusted opinions on Countess Ida question.
Peter Stewart
Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandevill
Dear Newsgroup ~
There is a nice chart (albeit with some minor errors and omissions) of
the immediate family of Maud de Mandeville (died 1236), Countess of
Essex and Hereford, wife of Earl Henry de Bohun and Sir Roger de
Dauntsey, found in the book, Legal Origins and Legal Change, by Alan
Watson, published in 1991, pg. 386.
Interested parties can examine this chart at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yBkn3z ... L-LM4rWHOY
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
There is a nice chart (albeit with some minor errors and omissions) of
the immediate family of Maud de Mandeville (died 1236), Countess of
Essex and Hereford, wife of Earl Henry de Bohun and Sir Roger de
Dauntsey, found in the book, Legal Origins and Legal Change, by Alan
Watson, published in 1991, pg. 386.
Interested parties can examine this chart at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yBkn3z ... L-LM4rWHOY
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandevill
On Feb 4, 7:06 pm, Douglas Richardson <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Douglas
If your "best" entails repeated, conscious attempts to infect this
group with the destructive sporging elsewhere, then you're not
operating at a very high standard, are you?
At least you have now made abundantly clear the very low regard that
you have for this group, and your evident desire that it should be
rendered useless by infection.
Have a nice day,
Michael Andrews-Reading
Dear Newsgroup ~
(snip of deliberate crossposting to sporge-infested group)
Best always
Dear Douglas
If your "best" entails repeated, conscious attempts to infect this
group with the destructive sporging elsewhere, then you're not
operating at a very high standard, are you?
At least you have now made abundantly clear the very low regard that
you have for this group, and your evident desire that it should be
rendered useless by infection.
Have a nice day,
Michael Andrews-Reading
Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Marriage of Maud de Mandevill
On Feb 4, 9:06 am, Douglas Richardson <[email protected]> wrote:
(malicious cross postings removed)
The link you kindly provided leads to the chart on page 306. Is there
another chart on page 386 to which you refer?
David
Dear Newsgroup ~
There is a nice chart (albeit with some minor errors and omissions) of
the immediate family of Maud de Mandeville (died 1236), Countess of
Essex and Hereford, wife of Earl Henry de Bohun and Sir Roger de
Dauntsey, found in the book, Legal Origins and Legal Change, by Alan
Watson, published in 1991, pg. 386.
Interested parties can examine this chart at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yBkn3z ... Roger+de...
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
(malicious cross postings removed)
The link you kindly provided leads to the chart on page 306. Is there
another chart on page 386 to which you refer?
David