Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

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wjhonson

Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 5.20

Hundreds if not thousands of people are descended from Thomas Worsley
by his wife Barbara St John.

Here on Leo's excellent website
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.ph ... 8&tree=LEO

we see this Thomas Worsley "of Apuldercombe" as there stated.

It just so happens that A2A has information re this
to wit, his father John Worsley of Appuldercombe
has an IPM there dated 13 Dec 1580 Reference: JER/WA/1/1
in which
"Thomas Worsley the heir is 20y 45w 3d old"

Anyone want to take a stab at calculating his exact birthdate from
this?

It just says as above "the heir" not "his SON and heir" so that was a
bit disappointing ... except the very *next* document JER/WA/1/2
does state SON. So there you go Leo.

Reference: JER/WA/1/2
Indented agreement [by way of settlement]
Creation dates: 1576 November 13
Scope and Content
All property of (1) in the Isle of Wight, Sussex and Wiltshire, except
the manor of GATCOMBE, I.W., and advowson of GATCOMBE CHURCH and all
customary lands of the manor of NETTLECOMBE AND WATHE, I.W., and part
of the demesne lands of same, occ. Philip Androwes and Thomas Longe
(1) John Worseley of Appuldercombe, I.W., esq.
(2) Gilbert Welles of Brambridge, esq.
William Lawrence gents.
John Potingere gents.
Gyles Kentt gents.
(2) to become trustees. (1) to have life interest. Then to executors
of (1)'s will, to use of Thomas Worseley, son of (1) and his issue.
Remainder to Richard Worseley, younger son of (1), and his issue, then
heirs female of Thomas Worseley, then heirs female of Richard
Worseley, then heirs of the body of (1), then Rafe Worseley, gent., of
Grayes Inne by London and the heirs male of his body, then Hughe
Worseley, gent., brother of Rafe, and the heirs male of his body, then
Edward Worseley, brother of Rafe, and heirs male of his body, then
James Worseley, eldest son of Anne Worseley, widow, late of
Estenunwell
[ex GAT/7]


Will Johnson

wjhonson

Re: Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 6.35

On Feb 1, 8:16 pm, wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote:
Hundreds if not thousands of people are descended from Thomas Worsley
by his wife Barbara St John.

Here on Leo's excellent websitehttp://www.genealogics.org/getpe ... 8&tree=LEO

we see this Thomas Worsley "of Apuldercombe" as there stated.



Well look at what the cat drug in...
Now we're cookin with gas


Reference: JER/WA/2/3
Lease for 50 years of MANOR OF APPULDERCOMBE alias PRIORY OF
APPULDERCOMBE, Isle of Wight, with appurtenances except lands etc.,
called Woolvelegh, Berks.
Creation dates: 1511/2 March 3
Physical characteristics: Vesica seal intact
Scope and Content
(1) Dame Elizabeth Boulman, Abbess of the monastery of the Order of
St. Clare without Algate, London and the Convent of the same place.

(2) Sir John Legh, and Agnes, his wife James Worsley, Groom of the
King's Robes and Anne, his wife

Consid: £56 13s. 4d. p.a.


Will Johnson

wjhonson

Re: Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 6.41

On Feb 1, 9:31 pm, wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote:
(2) Sir John Legh, and Agnes, his wife James Worsley, Groom of the
King's Robes and Anne, his wife


That's what I expected.
Anne his wife, is the daughter of "Sir John Legh"

Reference: JER/WA/2/4
Gift in feefarm of MANOR OF APPELDERCOMBE alias PRIORY OF
APPELDERCOMBE, Isle of Wight
Creation dates: 1527 December 17
Scope and Content
(1) Dame Dorathe Comberford, Abbess of the monastery of the Mynores of
the order of St. Clare withoute Algate of the City of London and the
Convent there.
(2) Sir James Worsley and Anne his wife, d. of Sir John Legh
Consid: £56 13s. 4d. p.a.
£ 6 13s. 4d. entry
Recites existing lease to (2). Also loan and gift of (2) to (1)
[Ex 16M48/156]


Will Johnson

wjhonson

Re: Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 6.55

I'd see that Sir James Worsley's heir was his son Richard was d 1565
and we've seen the (apparent) marriage contract in 1511/2. Now here
is the son already born.

Reference: JER/WA/5/1
Indented Agreement regarding lease on PRIORY OF CARISBROKE and
PARSONAGES OF CARESBROKE AND GODDESHILL, I.W.
Creation dates: 1537 June 10
Scope and Content
Recites lease for 40 years from Priory of Shene to (1) and Sir John
and Dame Agnes Leigh dated 1514 April 10
(1) Sir James Worseley, Captain of the Isle of Wight
(2) Rychard Worseley, esq., son and heir of Sir James
(2) Guarantees his mother's rights in the property

Will Johnson

wjhonson

Re: Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 7.05

Woohoo, I'm a happy camper

Reference: JER/WA/9/14
Lease for one life of half the MANOR OF CLEVELAND, Isle of Wight.
Lease to terminate on death of Anne Fynche
Creation dates: 1526 July 13
Scope and Content
(1) Herbert Fynch, gent., of Sandhurst, Kent and Anne, his wife
(2) Sir James Worsley, Captain of the Isle of Wight and Anne, his wife
Consid: 53s. 4d. p.a.

wjhonson

Re: Another one bites the dust, the father of Thomas Worsley

Legg inn av wjhonson » 2. februar 2008 kl. 7.35

Now that I've most cleverly figured it all out using only primary
sources, here comes old Burke to repeat my findings.

Of course *he* as was the standard practice in 18 whatever didn't cite
his sources ;)

http://books.google.com/books?id=LKIKAA ... K3pshNn2M0

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