Fw: Fw: Ida de Tony, mother of William Longespée, E arl of

[Leo van de Pas]

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Subject: Re: Fw: Ida de Tony, mother of William Longespée, E arl of
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Any new information on Ida's parentage?

The only "old" information is that it seems Richardson is still trying to
steal the thunder belonging to Ray Phair.
I wish he spend as much time on establishing who Agatha, wife of Edward
Atheling, was.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia

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[Gjest]

On Jan 31, 1:49 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <[email protected]> wrote:

The only "old" information is that it seems Richardson is still trying to
steal the thunder belonging to Ray Phair.
I wish he spend as much time on establishing who Agatha, wife of Edward
Atheling, was.

He is on record with regard to this question, as an opponent of the
Jette theory.

Apparently there is a new thesis or dissertation that discusses the
question in detail, but it is in Hungarian, which is beyond my ken.
(In fact, there is a body of Hungarian work on the question which I
have been unable to review.)

That being said, I don't know that a solution is possible. Even were
a novel document discovered, the best that it could do is add another
voice to the conflicting noise. Unlike in the Ida case, where we are
in want of a single probative primary document, in the Agatha case we
suffer from a surfeit of conflicting documents that can in no way be
brought into harmony. A novel document may shift the relative weight
assigned to the different documents in the conflict, and hence to the
different possible conclusions, but the dissonance among these sources
will remain, as will the differences of interpretation.

taf