Fw: Elizabeth Countess Kinski (or Kinsky)

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Leo van de Pas

Fw: Elizabeth Countess Kinski (or Kinsky)

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 22. desember 2007 kl. 5.45

Someone CAN die without issue and yet have fathered/mothered children.

Did Elizabeth Kinsky-Killegrew die before her father?

If it is a chart produced a long time ago in the castle of that family, it
sounds pretty reliable to me.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia



----- Original Message -----
From: "wjhonson" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Countess Kinski (or Kinsky)


On Dec 21, 8:28 pm, "M.Sjostrom" <[email protected]> wrote:
Usually you do not know much more than "this person
must have had two parents, one male and one female;
the male probably was surnamed same as the child" when
starting to dig ancestry of a person.
so, be happy with this, occasional receival of much
more information to chart the waters which to
investigate.
Will Johnson would much easier get dots and lines
connected with THIS start, if willing to do primary
research, and not emulate the reputedly usual conduct
of some Richardson, waiting for others to provide also
detailed sources.

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Excuse me but I provide plenty of primary sources.
For example on this point, there are TWO not one, but two secondary
sources which disagree.

I think you've missed that point.
One source states that Henry Killigrew died without issue.
The other states that Elizabeth was his daughter.
Both cannot be right, but there's no way to know which one to choose.

You cannot choose one and ignore the other. The chart without known
provenance does not have more weight than the Vis Cornwall, of which
we know the provenance.­

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Re: Fw: Elizabeth Countess Kinski (or Kinsky)

Legg inn av wjhonson » 22. desember 2007 kl. 6.05

On Dec 21, 8:45 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Someone CAN die without issue and yet have fathered/mothered children.
Did Elizabeth Kinsky-Killegrew die before her father?
If it is a chart produced a long time ago in the castle of that family, it
sounds pretty reliable to me.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
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We don't know who her father was. Henry's death date is not known to
me. There are certainly other males in the family. We don't even
know for certain that she herself was a Killigrew. All we know is
that her uncle called her Countess Kinski in his will. Period.
That's it. Period. The entry in this chart could be speculation
based on that alone for all we know.

We don't know when this chart was created, or by whom.
We don't know that it's in the castle of that family, as this
*particular* family apparently is extinct and who knows where whoever
owns the castle now, got their chart.

All of the argumentation isn't going to get us any further ahead on
this.

Will Johnson

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