Quaker dating and genealogy software

[Benjamin S. Beck]

Does anyone know of a genealogy programme that can interpret traditional
Quaker dating conventions successfully?

If there is one, is it also able successfully to export and import
Quaker dates in gedcoms?

Ben

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[Ye Old One]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:17:46 +0100, "Benjamin S. Beck"
<[email protected]> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

Does anyone know of a genealogy programme that can interpret traditional
Quaker dating conventions successfully?

If there is one, is it also able successfully to export and import
Quaker dates in gedcoms?

Ben

Read the two part article starting here:-

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/learn/library ... ticle=2205

But make sure you read the second part as it contains a correction.

Basically, the Quakers rejected the use of the month's name as this
was derived from pagan times and was therefore against God. As a
result they always wrote dates in numeric form as DD/MM/YYYY. The only
time this becomes a problem is if your software doesn't understand
normal internation date conventions. That said, I've an idea exporting
to Gedcom converts dates to DD/MMM/YYYY anyway so importing should
require no conversion on your part.

Hope this helps.

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Bob.

[Benjamin S. Beck]

Ye Old One wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:17:46 +0100, "Benjamin S. Beck"
[email protected]> enriched this group when s/he wrote:


Does anyone know of a genealogy programme that can interpret traditional
Quaker dating conventions successfully?

If there is one, is it also able successfully to export and import
Quaker dates in gedcoms?

Read the two part article starting here:-

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/learn/library ... ticle=2205

But make sure you read the second part as it contains a correction.

Basically, the Quakers rejected the use of the month's name as this
was derived from pagan times and was therefore against God. As a
result they always wrote dates in numeric form as DD/MM/YYYY. The only
time this becomes a problem is if your software doesn't understand
normal internation date conventions. That said, I've an idea exporting
to Gedcom converts dates to DD/MMM/YYYY anyway so importing should
require no conversion on your part.

Sorry, I can't have made myself clear. What I mean is this:

If a source says "5th of 2nd month 1751", or "2mo 5, 1751", for example,
and even from the context it's not clear whether February or April is
intended, I would think the ideal thing to record in a genealogy
database would be exactly what is stated, with the program understanding
that this is a date, not simply a text string, but not seeking to
'translate' it as either February or April.

Is this possible? And does any program do it?

Ben

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[Ye Old One]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:38:56 +0100, "Benjamin S. Beck"
<[email protected]> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

Ye Old One wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:17:46 +0100, "Benjamin S. Beck"
[email protected]> enriched this group when s/he wrote:


Does anyone know of a genealogy programme that can interpret traditional
Quaker dating conventions successfully?

If there is one, is it also able successfully to export and import
Quaker dates in gedcoms?

Read the two part article starting here:-

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/learn/library ... ticle=2205

But make sure you read the second part as it contains a correction.

Basically, the Quakers rejected the use of the month's name as this
was derived from pagan times and was therefore against God. As a
result they always wrote dates in numeric form as DD/MM/YYYY. The only
time this becomes a problem is if your software doesn't understand
normal internation date conventions. That said, I've an idea exporting
to Gedcom converts dates to DD/MMM/YYYY anyway so importing should
require no conversion on your part.

Sorry, I can't have made myself clear. What I mean is this:

If a source says "5th of 2nd month 1751", or "2mo 5, 1751", for example,
and even from the context it's not clear whether February or April is
intended, I would think the ideal thing to record in a genealogy
database would be exactly what is stated, with the program understanding
that this is a date, not simply a text string, but not seeking to
'translate' it as either February or April.

Is this possible? And does any program do it?

Ben

In both your examples it is clear that the month is April, the second
month of the year at that time.

My own point of view is that dates are important, and should be stored
in modern form. There is nothing to stop you adding a note that
explains whoe the date was laid out in the original. I do that with a
lot of Regnal Years.

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Bob.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:38:56 +0100, "Benjamin S. Beck"
<[email protected]> declaimed the following in
soc.genealogy.computing:

Is this possible? And does any program do it?

TMG; if the date entry can not be interpreted as a "normal date"

(which does include circa, about, between, before/after), it flags it as
an irregular date and stores it as entered. One can then set a "sort
date" to position the event in the appropriate region of the event list.
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