Peder Olsen Songe

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Peder Olsen Songe

Legg inn av gj15842 » 09 des 2014 23:36:52

My 5-great grandfather Ole Pedersen Songe (ca1749-1799) had 7 children, all born at Songe (in Barbu):

Siri Olsdatter Songe, baptized 04 Aug 1776 Tromøy kirke
Peder Olsen Songe, baptized 11 Jan 1778 Tromøy kirke
Jacob Olsen Sondge, baptized 24 Dec 1780 Tromøy kirke
Kirsten Olsdatter Songe, baptized 20 Jan 1782 Tromøy kirke
Kirsten Olsdatter Songe, baptized 26 Jan 1783 Austre Moland kirke
Jacob Olsen Songe, 04 Dec 1785 Tromøy kirke
Erich Olsen Songe, 16 may 1790 Tromøy kirke

The mother of all of these children except Peder is given in the baptismal record as Karen Jacobsdatter. The mother of Peder (my 4-great grandfather) is given as Targier Christophersdatter:

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Tromøy i Tromøy, Ministerialbok nr. A 2 (1773-1808), Fødte og døpte 1778, side 14-15.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... dx_side=-9
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 640369.jpg


I am thinking that the record may be in error and that the mother of Peder is really Karen Jacobsdatter. The baptismal record does not show that Peder is illegitimate unless I am missing something. Although it seems like a big mistake, is it possible that the priest made a mistake in naming the mother?


Bruce Wiland

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Re: Peder Olsen Songe

Legg inn av dn23027 » 10 des 2014 00:36:20

It happens that there is wrong name of the mother in the churchrecords.

Ole Pedersen's probate here, right page and the following pages. His widow is Karen Jacobsdatter, and there are 2 living children, Peder , 22 years and in His Majesty's service ( military), and daughter Kirsten, 15 years, staying home with her mother. Here it says clearly that Peder is their legitimate son.

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Nedenes sorenskriveri -1824, Skifteprotokoll 29 , 1795-1800, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kristiansand.
Merknader: Nytt register foran.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/24277/799/
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 340800.jpg

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Linda

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Re: Peder Olsen Songe

Legg inn av gj15842 » 10 des 2014 04:52:53

Thank you Linda. How did you find the probate so quickly? Is there an index somewhere?

That seems like a very large probate. Ole Pedersen must have had either a lot of assets or a lot of debts. The handwriting would be very difficult for me to read if it were in English, but it is even more difficult in Norwegian. I see Ole's brother Jens Pedersen is mentioned. There are also some other people mentioned: Jens Olsen Holte, Ole Jensen, and Ole Wold. Can you tell if they are related?

Mange takk,
Bruce

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Re: Peder Olsen Songe

Legg inn av 6146 » 10 des 2014 09:26:22

The index (= register) is here:

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Nedenes sorenskriveri -1824, Skifteprotokoll 29 , 1795-1800, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kristiansand.
Merknader: Nytt register foran.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/24277/7/
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 340007.jpg

Ole Wold (the lensmann = sheriff/bailiff) together with the two men Jens Olsen Holte and Ole Jensen were in charge of going through and evaluate what the deceased left behind, also what debts he had.

The widow Karen Jacobsdatter and Jens Pedersen Krogenæs, brother of the deceased, were present.

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