Death/birth dates of Kristen Arnesen and Kari Olsdatter

[gj20422]

Hello.

I have been doing some genealogy, and much progress has been done. Even got in contact with family in Norway.

But I am sort of in a stop right now. I know that Kristen Arnesen øhrn is born in around 1863, bit died around 1890 - 1893. Where can I find his death date? And even anyone's death date.
There is also Kari Olsdatter øhrn, born 24. 12. 1871 - ~1907, it could be 1906 or 1908.

Now, I don´t know how to even search for the death dates, nor know where to start. Can you guys help me? Any help would be very very appreciated!

Kari Olsdatter may have been Kari Møllen in around 1890~3 (after Kristen died).
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 6524001108
Top is her husband, and below are children, although Alma is missing, born around 1894.
This is all I have on her.

Sincerely,
Kristján.

[dn09334]

Kari Olsdatter død nr 12 Holla i Holla, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1897-1907), Døde og begravede 1906, side 208.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-183

[dn21186]

Hei!

Kari nr 7.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-27

Kristen i 1865.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... =1222#ovre

Kari and Kristen in 1891.
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... &merk=2229

Mvh Lisbeth

[gj20422]

Sorry for responding so late, not my intention.

Hi Wilfred.

Thank you for this. At least I know the year now. Quite impossible to read the church book don't you think, it was very blurry for me at least. I'll see if I can do anything about it. I wonder if the date is written there, but we just can not read it?
I was talking to her grandchild this evening, apparently her grave does no longer exist any more. I find that a bit sad, removed in 1955.

Thank you again for this.

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Hi Lisbeth.

Ah yes, Kari's birth record. I perhaps should have mentioned that I've already found a lot of her ancestors. So have I done with Kristen. We have a little book that has a chapter called Lille Søndelend slekt, or however it was spelled, can not recall at the moment.
See this topic if you are interested with her ancestors. I haven't managed to do any more progress than my last post:
https://slektsforum.slektogdata.no/view ... p?t=120045

What I find interesting though, we know that Kristen is definetly born around 62/63 - but in c. 1865 he is said to be 3 years old, but in c. 1891 he is said to be born in 1863. It's odd. Maybe I am misunderstanding things?
At least I know now he is not dead until 1891, but must have been dead in 1894 because Kari remarried to a Ole Arnesen and had children with him, first in 1894.

Sincerely,
Kristján.

[dn21186]

Hei!

Censuses were not always correct. It is best to look at the church records for the correct year of birth. The parish registers of Mo and Skafså stops in 1890. This makes it difficult to see exactly when Kristen died.

Mvh Lisbeth

[gj20422]

Hi Lisbeth.

Oh that is sad. I wish there would be a exact date.
I finally figured out how to expand Kari's death record up to 150%, looks like kari's dead the 27th of april 1906, begr. 5th of may 1906.

What does "Har Læge verret lilkaldt under Afdödes sydste sygdom?" ?
The answer is marked Ja, I wonder what this means.

Of course, Kari's "opgiveden dödsaarag" (which I belive is cause of death?) is hardest to read.

Actually could you please translate the last 5 columns in the record? (nr 8,9,10,11,12)


Sincerely, Kristján.

[dn21186]

Hei!

Hefur læknir verið tilkaldt síðasta veikindi látna? Já (Har Læge verret lilkaldt under Afdödes sydste sygdom?" Ja


Mvh Lisbeth

[Else Berit Rustad]

Column 8 (place of residence): Strandsplads
Column 9 (cause of death): Tæring (i. e. tuberculosis)
Column 10 (did she have medical support during her last illness): Ja
Column 11 (has the death been reported to the legal authorities): Ja 28/4-06

No remarks in the column 12.

Sincerely
Else B.

[gj20422]

Ah ok this clear things up. Thank you all. I wonder if Kristen died of the same thing too, I guess I'll never know since they stopped making these records in 1890.

I realise I am asking much, but for Kristen's birth date, being born in (1865 says) Riisørs Prgj. -.... (1891 says Søndeled ), estimated 1863, could this be found out?

With much thanks,
sincerely, Kristján.

[Else Berit Rustad]

The baptism of Christen is here, left side page, no. 31. Parents: Arne Christensen and Berthe Thorbjørnsdr. Ørnsmoen:

Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Søndeled, Ministerialbok nr. A 3 (1861-1879), Fødte og døpte 1863, side 21.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-23
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 030579.jpg

Regards
Else B.

[gj20422]

Thank you Else, so very much.

Then I guess the work is done here, unless Kristen's death record appears on the surface.

Sincerely,
Kristján.